World Championships Innsbruck 2018

[LaFlorecita]

I wasn't able to watch the race, but looking at the intermediate time splits, I'm kinda shocked the margin between Dumoulin and Dennis suddenly got so big between split 1 and 2. The difference made between start-split 1 and split 2-finish was much smaller. And yet I would have thought the climby part suits Dumoulin better?

 

[Climbing]

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Am I the only one thinking that Dennis might have a chance to challenge the hour record with this shape?
He had to climb 5Kms and still got closer to 50KPH

Which he already had in the past for a short while.
But for sure, yeah, impressive form.

 

[Red Rick]

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Am I the only one thinking that Dennis might have a chance to challenge the hour record with this shape?
He had to climb 5Kms and still got closer to 50KPH

Which he already had in the past for a short while.
But for sure, yeah, impressive form.

Just go to Mexico and it's his if he wants it.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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I wasn't able to watch the race, but looking at the intermediate time splits, I'm kinda shocked the margin between Dumoulin and Dennis suddenly got so big between split 1 and 2. The difference made between start-split 1 and split 2-finish was much smaller. And yet I would have thought the climby part suits Dumoulin better?

Dumoulin said he was on a bad day and didn't have it. He was even cramping up in the TT because he was compensating for lack of strength by trying to pull power from his body instead. He just wasn't good. Even the best Dumoulin would have struggled, but possibly gained time on the climb. Todays Dumoulin should be lucky he even finished 2nd

 

[GuyIncognito]

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I wasn't able to watch the race, but looking at the intermediate time splits, I'm kinda shocked the margin between Dumoulin and Dennis suddenly got so big between split 1 and 2. The difference made between start-split 1 and split 2-finish was much smaller. And yet I would have thought the climby part suits Dumoulin better?

Dumoulin said he was on a bad day and didn't have it. He was even cramping up in the TT because he was compensating for lack of strength by trying to pull power from his body instead. He just wasn't good. Even the best Dumoulin would have struggled, but possibly gained time on the climb. Todays Dumoulin should be lucky he even finished 2nd

Luck has nothing to do with it, it is Deux-moulin's destiny to finish 2nd again

 

[Jagartrott]

Does this hint that the ones with the best shot for the road race are (also) the riders coming out of the Vuelta?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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Does this hint that the ones with the best shot for the road race are (also) the riders coming out of the Vuelta?

nah, that you need the vuelta is overhyped. Nowadays with altitude camps and some one day races you could come very far as well

 

[yaco]

Congrats to Rohan Dennis who finally showed his true capabilities in the ITT - I suggest that TD needs to do only one GT each year if he wants to win the World's ITT.

 

[Pippo_San]

It was pretty clear form-wise Dumourain wasn't there. Come on he had an incredibly long season, can't be so good all year long.
Kudos to Dennis, but he was missing serious competition this year. I think Moscon could've done big damage. Also, gimme some Roglic.

Dennis is definitely Australia's best option for the RR. Much like Dumo will be a no show in the RR.

 

[yaco]

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Dumoulin has no shot at the road race.

Dennis might be Australia's best option for the road race.

Kwiatkowski surprised me today.

Dennis not known for one day form but will probably handle the course as well as Haig.

Haig has to be the leader for the elite mens RR - Bigger question is whether Hamilton or Stannard will be the leader for the under 23's RR.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Does this hint that the ones with the best shot for the road race are (also) the riders coming out of the Vuelta?

nah, that you need the vuelta is overhyped. Nowadays with altitude camps and some one day races you could come very far as well

Don't think riding the Vuelta the way Dennis did is overhyped really.. I think its an incredible base if you are going in in decent/good form and is looking to peak 5 weeks later.

 

[Blanco]

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Am I the only one not surprised by the outcome at the top? Although I said I was looking forward to the Dennis vs Dumoulin battle, I had a pretty strong feeling Rohan would destroy the field. He really is a monster TT rider and fully deserves the rainbow jersey. He's been hands down the best TT rider of the year.
For Dumoulin it's been a very long and successful season. Today's performance is somewhat expected although the gap is bigger than I thought it would be. He has to be tired. I don't know what to expect from him in the RR. If I have to make a prediction, I don't think he can challenge for a medal.
Campenaerts surprised me today. I didn't expect him to do this well on a course like this. Congrats to all three medallists.

Yeah that climb was always gonna be affected by the 30km of flat beforehand. Dumoulin clearly dug a lot deeper on that part than Dennis did.

It's clear that he's not in top shape. He'll need to anticipate come Sunday.

Mixed season for Dumoulin. Good all year, but the big wins are lacking.

Yeah, only his 2nd best ever

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

he had 2 gt stage wins so hardly call it no big wins
compared to the standard of 2017 almost every season from him would suck.

 

[Red Rick]

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he had 2 gt stage wins so hardly call it no big wins
compared to the standard of 2017 almost every season from him would suck.

In terms of wins it's the least he's won since 2014.

 

[DNP-Old]

***** Evenepoel
**** Vacek
*** Balmer, Italians (except Baroncini), Scandinavians (Skjelmose, Fischer Aasheim, Hindsgaul, Thomsen, Waerenskjold)
** Van Wilder, Carlos Rodriguez, Germans (Mayrhofer, Gessner)
* Ghirmay, Vervloesem, French (Pagé, Retailleau)

imo.

 

[Red Rick]

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***** Evenepoel

imo

 

[Max Rockatansky]

The question is: When will Fausto Evencoppi attack?

 

[tobydawq]

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Has a rider ever before been second in Giro, Tour and all three Worlds races in a season before?

I think I will ask this question again. By the way, I know the answer is no. But it would be quite the feat.

 

[tobydawq]

By the way, it was pretty unusual what happened with Olivieria and Küng. Oliveira caught Küng at the top of the climb. Next time we saw them at the finish line, they were still together, 18 kilometres later.

I don't think anyone of them made a Tsatevich, by the way, they were just pretty much at the same level on the flat and Oliveira was a minute and a half better on the climb.

 

[hayneplane]

I doubt anyone has ever gone into a worlds event as heavily favoured to win as Remco is for tomorrow, not even peak Vos or TT beast mode Cancellara.

 

[May0maniac]

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By the way, it was pretty unusual what happened with Olivieria and Küng. Oliveira caught Küng at the top of the climb. Next time we saw them at the finish line, they were still together, 18 kilometres later.

I don't think anyone of them made a Tsatevich, by the way, they were just pretty much at the same level on the flat and Oliveira was a minute and a half better on the climb.

Küng is 83kg, Oliveira 67, so him loosing a ton of time on this kind of climb is no surprise.

 

[RedheadDane]

What's up with the people DNSing? That's gonna be annoying; you travel to Austria for - quite possibly - the biggest race of the year, then you… don't even make it to the start line!

 

[Cance > TheRest]

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I doubt anyone has ever gone into a worlds event as heavily favoured to win as Remco is for tomorrow, not even peak Vos or TT beast mode Cancellara.

Now that it had to happen, it's no surprise that it's happening in a junior event where physical development can vary greatly.

 

[tobydawq]

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By the way, it was pretty unusual what happened with Olivieria and Küng. Oliveira caught Küng at the top of the climb. Next time we saw them at the finish line, they were still together, 18 kilometres later.

I don't think anyone of them made a Tsatevich, by the way, they were just pretty much at the same level on the flat and Oliveira was a minute and a half better on the climb.

Küng is 83kg, Oliveira 67, so him loosing a ton of time on this kind of climb is no surprise.

It's not surprising, no, but it's still quite unusual to see two riders being equal after one has been caught by the other on a time trial. Usually he just gets distanced or hangs on behind for a while or is Valerio Conti.

 

[RedheadDane]

Hmm... random observation: The women's elite races might be the race with the greatest age-differences, since there are 19-year-olds riding, and then there's Edwige Pitel, who kinda breaks the statistics in the other end.
But even without her, there are quite some age differences.