World Championships Innsbruck 2018

[del1962]

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No Thomas, but also no Froome in WCRR, dissapointing.

Really, that's a shame, I was hoping to see GT in the rainbow jersey.

I was hoping they'd at least show up to help the Yates twins

Who could support them

Kennugh
Tao
Hugh Carthy
Scott Davies
Cummings
Ben Swift
Stannard

 

[Tim Booth]

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Men Elite
Greg van Avermaet
Dylan Teuns
Tim Wellens
Tiejs Benoot
Laurens de Plus
Xandro Meurisse
Serge Pauwels
Ben Hermans

Men U23
Steff Crash
Bjorg Lambrecht
Kenny Molly
Brent Van Moer
Viktor Verschaeve

Men Juniors
Remco Evenepoel
Steven Pattyn
Henri Vandenabeele
Aaron Van der Beken
Ilan Van Wilder
Xandres Vervloesem

misogynist
Belgium have some women riders also
http://www.belgiancycling.be/news.asp?language=nl&id=2940

 

[memyselfandI]

It looks like France is a true contender this time in mens race. They have 2-3 quality captains and 14-15 excellent support riders to choose. Lets' just say there is Kawasaki, Alaphilippe, Uran, Don Alejandro and Bardet escape gruppo in last lap..it's gonna be huge! :twisted:

 

[Beobachter]

The Austrian selection for Innsbruck:

ITT
Brändle
Preidler

RR
Konrad
Mühlberger
Grossschartner
Pöstlberger
Gogl
Preidler

Which means no Denifl (logic), Zoidl (not so surprising) but more surprisingly no Pernsteiner. He would have deserved to be here
I guess such a team means it's all for Konrad. We'll see if such a strategic choice will lead to a nice result from him. I at least expect so!

 

[Gigs_98]

Konrad was good in Canada so making him the leader makes sense but I don't see the necessity of Gogl and pöstlberger. Both will get dropped when the mountains start, Austria definitely doesn't have one of the favorites so they don't need them to control the race which means they have two riders whose only duty is to carry bottles? I think pernsteiner would have been the more reasonable choice.

 

[DNP-Old]

Alejandro Valverde, Jonathan Castroviejo, Ion Izagirre, Enric Mas, Mikel Nieve, Jesús Herrada, David De la Cruz, Mikel Landa, Omar Fraile, Pello Bilbao, Marc Soler, Rubén Fernández y Lluis Mas. Es la lista previa para el Mundial

The dream is no more.

 

[tobydawq]

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Alejandro Valverde, Jonathan Castroviejo, Ion Izagirre, Enric Mas, Mikel Nieve, Jesús Herrada, David De la Cruz, Mikel Landa, Omar Fraile, Pello Bilbao, Marc Soler, Rubén Fernández y Lluis Mas. Es la lista previa para el Mundial

The dream is no more.

Who is that?

 

[Inquitus]

The Bookies Take

Alejandro Valverde 11/4
Julian Alaphilippe (Fra) 11/2
Michal Kwiatkoski 12
Vincenzo Nibali 12
Simon Yates 14
Michal Kwiatkowski 16
Primoz Roglic 16
Wout Poels 16
Mikel Landa 25
Rigoberto Uran 25
Sergio Luis Henao 28
Miguel Angel Lopez 28
Adam Yates 33
Daniel Martin 33
Peter Sagan 33
Romain Bardet 33
Thibaut Pinot 33
Wilco Kelderman 33
Geraint Thomas 28
Jakob Fuglsang 40
Tom Dumoulin 40
Tony Gallopin 40
Nairo Quintana 40
Bob Jungels 40
Chris Froome 50
Rafal Majka 50
Richie Porte 50
Michael Woods 50
Bauke Mollema 50
Greg Van Avermaet 50
Rui Costa 50
Dylan Teuns 50
Matej Mohoric 66
Tim Wellens 66
Ion Izagirre 66
Patrick Konrad 66
Steven Kruijswijk 66
Domenico Pozzovivo 80
Jon Izaguiire 80
Michael Valgren Andersen 80
Egan Bernal 100
Giovanni Visconti 100
Ilnur Zakarin 100
Warren Barguil 100
Enric Mas Nicolau 100
Diego Ulissi 125
Enrico Gasparotto 125
Fabio Aru 125
Pierre Latour 125
Roman Kreuziger 125
Gianni Moscon 125
Tiesj Benoot 125
George Bennett 125
Jelle Vanendert 150
Maximilian Schachmann 150
Omar Fraile 150
Michael Albasini 150
Alexey Lutsenko 200
Davide Formolo 200
Sam Oomen 200
Alessandro De Marchi 200
Diego Rosa 200
Jack Haig 200
Antwan Tolhoek 300
Ben King 300
Damiano Caruso 300
David de la Cruz 300
Emanuel Buchmann 300
Fabio Felline 300
Gorka Izagirre 300
Gregor Muhlberger 300
Lilian Calmejane 300
Pello Bilbao 300
Sam Bennett 300
Anthony Roux 300
Sergey Chernetskiy 300
Valerio Conti 350
Amaro Manuel Antunes 400
Carlos Betancur 400
Daniel Martinez 400
Daryl Impey 400
Davide Villella 400
Georg Preidler 400
Gianluca Brambilla 400
Guillaume Martin 400
Hugh Carthy 400
Joni Brandao 400
Jose Goncalves 400
Laurens De Plus 400
Marc Soler 400
Mark Padun 400
Mikel Nieve 400
Nicolas Roche 400
Pierre Rolland 400
Rudy Molard 400
Serge Pauwels 400
Simon Clarke 400
Simon Geschke 400
Soren Kragh Andersen 400
Tanel Kangert 400
Tom Jelte Slagter 400
Hermann Pernsteiner 400
Jesus Herrada 400
Robert Gesink 400
Alberto Bettiol 500
Andrey Amador 500
Ben Hermans 500
Bjorg Lambrecht 500
Dries Devenyns 500
Edvald Boasson Hagen 500
Felix Grossschartner 500
Giulio Ciccone 500
Jan Bakelants 500
Kanstantin Siutsou 500
Kenny Elissonde 500
Louis Meintjes 500
Merhawi Kudus 500
Patrick Bevin 500
Pavel Sivakov 500
Rohan Dennis 500
Sebastien Reichenbach 500
Sepp Kuss 500
Stefan Denifl 500
Tejay Van Garderen 500
Toms Skujins 500
Riccardo Zoidl 500
Jesper Hansen 600
Nelson Oliveira 600
Rein Taaramae 600
Robert Power 600
Tony Martin 600

A good few to ignore like Froome, Thomas, Dan Martin who for their various reasons are unlikely to hit the race in their best form which the odds do not accurately reflect.undefined

 

[Red Rick]

Froome and Thomas aren't even riding.

I think it's that classics pedigree barely matters and it almost completely boils down to pure climbing ability at the end of a horrific day.

I think don't agree at all with Kwiatkowski, Alaphilippe being that high, and similarly, I'd put Valverde much lower, cause he hasn't made the difference in a top end race on a hard climb in forever.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Froome and Thomas aren't even riding.

I think it's that classics pedigree barely matters and it almost completely boils down to pure climbing ability at the end of a horrific day.

I think don't agree at all with Kwiatkowski, Alaphilippe being that high, and similarly, I'd put Valverde much lower, cause he hasn't made the difference in a top end race on a hard climb in forever.

I think classics pedigree matters. For example. I would never, ever have believed in Froome even though he would ride in great shape. He just isn't a one day racer. Thats an extreme example since Froome probably is the worst rider in the peloton in one day races relative to stage racing, but you get the point..

 

[Valv.Piti]

And something more important: Who are going to Innsbruck? I have seriously considered going, and I would have had it not collided with some work I just have gotten. But I think its money and time well spent honestly and I would really love to go, but I guess I will have to wait for TdF in Copenhagen in 2021, lmao.

 

[Laplaz]

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And something more important: Who are going to Innsbruck? I have seriously considered going, and I would have had it not collided with some work I just have gotten. But I think its money and time well spent honestly and I would really love to go, but I guess I will have to wait for TdF in Copenhagen in 2021, lmao.

I'm going for sure, probably on the main climb to Igls

 

[Gigs_98]

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And something more important: Who are going to Innsbruck? I have seriously considered going, and I would have had it not collided with some work I just have gotten. But I think its money and time well spent honestly and I would really love to go, but I guess I will have to wait for TdF in Copenhagen in 2021, lmao.

I'm going for sure, probably on the main climb to Igls

I'd love to go, but unfortunately I have my first day at University the next day. I mean it would theoretically still be possible but don't know how enjoyable an event like that is if you have to run to the train right after the finish.

 

[May0maniac]

A friend of mine lives in the Höttinger Gasse, where the final climb starts, so I'll probably be right there to watch the race.

 

[Gigs_98]

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A friend of mine lives in the Höttinger Gasse, where the final climb starts, so I'll probably be right there to watch the race.

Wave a big purple flag for cyclingnews

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

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Not a big fan of Belgium's U23 team. Lambrecht might be the top favourite and Crass is a good outsider, but their help is lacking. I thought they'd bring Vanhoucke, who has said he'd happily work for Lambrecht. The junior team on the other hand is flat out insane. It's a longshot, but gold and silver is not out of question with Evenepoel and Van Wilder. Vervloesem is able to ride a good result for himself too. Still, getting past Vacek will be a big challenge, and regarding depth, the Italians will bring a very good team as well.

It's Evenepoel's to lose though. If he doesn't ride like a horse's ass it's difficult to see even Vacek beat him. But if he rides like he did in Italy last week, that's surely possible. Team tactics have to be on point (and followed), don't do all the work himself, allow Vervloesem or Van Wilder their moment in the sun (and risk not winning on their behalf in order to put the other teams to work)... It should be a tough race, and that should always be in his favor. But the other riders know by now, they just need to try and stay in his wheel, don't take turns, and beat him in the sprint (or the final climb). Let's hope he's aware. Can't see anybody beat him in the ITT though.
Not sure if the U23 team is supposed to be one of the favorites. I could see Lambrecht do well, not sure if he really needs many helpers to have a shot. He has the advantage of also being able to win a bunch sprint of whoever makes it over the final climb. I think we'll get at least two medals, one being gold (Junior ITT).

 

[Koronin]

That's Spain's long list, not all will participate. I don't expect Landa on the final list due to his injury.

Wish I could go, but no money and now even less due to the Hurricane. Can't work as we are now under a mandatory evacuation so no pay since I'm not working. (Not having a passport is another issue with going to this year's Worlds.)

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Some very good value in that odds list. Dan Martin should not be the top favorite, but 33-1 for a Liege and Lombardia winner who was one of the best climbers at the Tour?

 

[LiquidCrystalDynamic]

Sagan's odds are comical.

Not a betting man but I can hardly resist Diego Rosa at 200-1.

 

[42x16ss]

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Some very good value in that odds list. Dan Martin should not be the top favorite, but 33-1 for a Liege and Lombardia winner who was one of the best climbers at the Tour?

Maybe for the weak team? He’s really only going to have Roche and Dunbar.

 

[Koronin]

Heck why not go with Sepp Kuss at 500-1. No I don't think he has a shot, but those look like good odds for someone who can at least climb.

 

[janraaskalt]

Strange that Kwiatkoski's odds (12) are better than Kwiatkowski's (16).

 

[Rollthedice]

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Sagan's odds are comical.

Not a betting man but I can hardly resist Diego Rosa at 200-1.

Rosa will not ride.

 

[Vroome.exe]

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Strange that Kwiatkoski's odds (12) are better than Kwiatkowski's (16).

Yep some mistakes here, I can see Rigo, but I can't find Uran's odds anywhere.

 

[Climbing]

Should have bet on Vinnie long ago, odds will collapse by the end of the week anyway...