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Barrus said:
Hey, Anne Coulter, I know of her. Although mainly due to a not so flattering song about her by Hamell on Trial, which definitely is not made for little childern

Anyway, I never took Moore too seriously, his agenda is clear and he twists and spins the facts in such a way without almost ever showing counter arguments


What was the song?

not made for little childern and not really for those that are easily offended (such as most of Hamell his work)
You want to see "not made for little childern and not really for those that are easily offended", look at the Coulter comments below. :D

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I haven't read any books, but I have spent many hours trying to determine if she's a transvestite.

coulter.jpg

Transvestite? thats the once critiscism i wouldnt make of her. But your picture is of her adams apple, and she does talk like a man sometimes, so i can see what your getting at.

Enough of me talking, here are some Anne Coulter gems.
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"the question isnt are all muslims terrorists, its are all terrorists muslims. The answer is yes"

on the middle east.

"invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to christianity"

On religion

"Darwinism is the liberals creation myth"

and the creme de la creme

"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."
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Ann Coulter Quotes:


As the leader of twelve apostles, even Jesus had more executive experience than Obama.


Clinton's attempt to socialize healthcare was the second most disgusting thing he did in the oval office. I can't remember was the first thing was. ( Monica Lewinsky )


Democrats always assure us that deterrence will work, but when the time comes to deter, they're against it.


Democrats couldn't care less if people in Indiana hate them. But if Europeans curl their lips, liberals can't look at themselves in the mirror.


Even Obama's staunchest supporters are starting to leave him. Last week Michelle Obama demanded to see a copy of his birth certificate.


Four years of Jimmy Carter gave us two titanic Reagan landslides, peace and prosperity for eight blessed years - and even a third term for his feckless vice president, George H.W. Bush.


I know Jesus Christ died for my sins, and that's all I really need to know.


I love to engage in repartee with people who are stupider than I am.


I might be in favor of national healthcare if it required all Democrats to get their heads examined.


I'm not going to be lectured to.


I've decided to cut out the part of the speech where I say anything nice about Democrats.


If a university official's letter accusing a speaker of having a proclivity to commit speech crimes before she's given the speech - which then leads to Facebook postings demanding that Ann Coulter be hurt, a massive riot and a police-ordered cancellation of the speech - is not hate speech, then there is no such thing as hate speech.


If John Kerry had a dollar for every time he bragged about serving in Vietnam - oh wait, he does.


If only Al Sharpton were around, Lincoln would have known he was a victim of racism.

If the press really thinks Obama is Lincoln, they ought to treat him like they treated Bush, 'cause that's how they treated Lincoln. His critics compared Lincoln to an ape; they called him an illiterate baboon.

If we're so cruel to minorities, why do they keep coming here? Why aren't they sneaking across the Mexican border to make their way to the Taliban?


In fact Sarah Palin has created more jobs than Obama has. She created eleven jobs fact-checking at the AP just for the Palin autobiography.


Ironically, since Obama was elected, for the first time in my life I'm sometimes not proud of my country.


Liberal soccer moms are precisely as likely to receive anthrax in the mail as to develop a capacity for linear thinking.


Liberals are stalwart defenders of civil liberties - provided we're only talking about criminals.


Liberals become indignant when you question their patriotism, but simultaneously work overtime to give terrorists a cushion for the next attack and laugh at dumb Americans who love their country and hate the enemy.


Political debate with liberals is basically impossible in America today because liberals are calling names while conservatives are trying to make arguments.


Taxes are like abortion, and not just because both are grotesque procedures supported by Democrats. You're for them or against them. Taxes go up or down; government raises taxes or lowers them. But Democrats will not let the words "abortion" or "tax hikes" pass their lips.


The Democrats have no actual policy proposals of their own unless constant carping counts as a policy.


The fact that a Republican is in the late Senator Kennedy's old seat probably must have him rolling in his grave, probably spilling his drink.


The New York Times editorial page is like a Ouija board that has only three answers, no matter what the question. The answers are: higher taxes, more restrictions on political speech and stricter gun control.


The really amazing part, to me, was when Florida made it into the Final Four, the Democrats didn't demand a recount.


They've hit us and we've got to hit back hard, and I'm not just talking about the terrorists.


Usually the nonsense liberals spout is kind of cute, but in wartime their instinctive idiocy is life-threatening.


We don't want someone who will get 98 percent of the vote. We want someone who will get 51 percent of the vote.


We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.


We've finally given liberals a war against fundamentalism, and they don't want to fight it. They would, except it would put them on the same side as the United States.


When every one of your arguments is characterized an attempt to bring back slavery or resegregate lunch counters, it's a little hard to have any sort of productive debate.


When we were at peace, Democrats wanted to raise taxes. Now there's a war, so Democrats want to raise taxes. When there was a surplus, Democrats wanted to raise taxes. Now that there is a mild recession, Democrats want to raise taxes.


When you try to figure out what the religious right is, it ultimately comes down either to one man, Pat Robertson, or anyone who believes in a higher being and wants their taxes cut.


Whenever a liberal begins a statement with 'I don't know which is more frightening,' you know the answer is going to be pretty clear.


Whether they are defending the Soviet Union or bleating for Saddam Hussein, liberals are always against America. They are either traitors or idiots, and on the matter of America's self-preservation, the difference is irrelevant.


While the form of treachery varies slightly from case to case, liberals always manage to take the position that most undermines American security.


Why couldn't Obama have picked somebody respectable as his running mate, you know, like John Kerry did?
 

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“We felt that this movie would have such an impact that it would really pave the way for legislation to be passed that could be very detrimental to the insurance industry. So it was very important for the insurers to attack this movie as fiercely as possible,” Wendell Potter said. “We developed a very, very sophisticated communications campaign to make sure that people saw him as a Marxist, as a socialist, and that he was going to be destroying the American Dream.”

Wendell Potter=Cigna Insurance spokesman
 
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Barrus said:
Hey, Anne Coulter, I know of her. Although mainly due to a not so flattering song about her by Hamell on Trial, which definitely is not made for little childern and not really for those that are easily offended (such as most of Hamell his work)

Anyway, I never took Moore too seriously, his agenda is clear and he twists and spins the facts in such a way without almost ever showing counter arguments

His work is in the form of pop culture, not rigorous academic examination of a particular issue. Counter arguments are never addressed in this form of culture, whether it be a Michael Moore film or local "current affairs" TV or Fox News or whatever media outlets allow people such as Ann Coulter to spout her nonsense.
 

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Spare Tyre said:
His work is in the form of pop culture, not rigorous academic examination of a particular issue. Counter arguments are never addressed in this form of culture, whether it be a Michael Moore film or local "current affairs" TV or Fox News or whatever media outlets allow people such as Ann Coulter to spout her nonsense.

I'm not saying Fox is anything better. Another thing I do not take too seriously
 
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leftists???catholics? Left of what??? 1989

""""Bush: The question is, why are we supporting El Salvador?

Lady in audience: No, the question is, why are we killing priests in El Salvador?

Bush: The answer is, we're not. Now, you be quiet. President Cristiani is trying to do a job for democracy and the left wing guerrillas must not take over El Salvador."""

http://onlineministries.creighton.edu/CollaborativeMinistry/WPnov16.html
 
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redtreviso said:
leftists???catholics? Left of what??? 1989

""""Bush: The question is, why are we supporting El Salvador?

Lady in audience: No, the question is, why are we killing priests in El Salvador?

Bush: The answer is, we're not. Now, you be quiet. President Cristiani is trying to do a job for democracy and the left wing guerrillas must not take over El Salvador."""

http://onlineministries.creighton.edu/CollaborativeMinistry/WPnov16.html

Why does America have this fear of anything left wing ?
 
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simo1733 said:
Why does America have this fear of anything left wing ?

It's not fear of left wing..it is the definition of left... Anyone who disagrees with the right is left. Any one left of Ollie North is a marxist commie socialist..
 
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redtreviso said:
It's not fear of left wing..it is the definition of left... Anyone who disagrees with the right is left. Any one left of Ollie North is a marxist commie socialist..

I agree. By American definition every government in europe would be leftist including the right wing one's. But how did this situation come about.I think Thatcher tried to create this kind of Atmosphere in Britain but eventually the country started to revolt against it
 
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simo1733 said:
I agree. By American definition every government in europe would be leftist including the right wing one's. But how did this situation come about.I think Thatcher tried to create this kind of Atmosphere in Britain but eventually the country started to revolt against it

I think Reagan tipped the scale.. an individual who works=good.. workers in any definable group=bad socialist, commie (likely not to vote republican)..Then it transposes down to leaders vs all others.. all others as a group if opposing in any way=leftists commie traitor..etc.
 
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an individual who works=good.. workers in any definable group=bad socialist, commie (likely not to vote republican)..Then it transposes down to leaders vs all others.. all others as a group if opposing in any way=leftists commie traitor..etc.
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redtreviso said:
It's not fear of left wing..it is the definition of left... Anyone who disagrees with the right is left. Any one left of Ollie North is a marxist commie socialist..
Wow. talk about going off on rants with extreme exagerations.

Since the El Salvador event which you mention the democrats have received more votes in 4 out of 5 presidential elections and came mighty close in the 5th. Today A majority of Governors in America are Democrats, The President is a Democrat and the Senate is Democrat controlled.

Hardly sounds like a country where those "likely not to vote republican" are "commies" :rolleyes:

And what was that about anyone left of oliver north being a "marxist commie socialist" ?


Clear trolling on your part.

simo1733 said:
I think Thatcher tried to create this kind of Atmosphere in Britain but eventually the country started to revolt against it
Im no fan of Margaret Thatcher, but she was the longest serving UK Prime Minister for over a century. She won 3 elections, and after she left her party won the next general election as well.


Oh and heres a recent picture of Thatcher showing just how unwanted the GOPs favourite foreign politician is.

2010-06-08-LadyThatcherandDavidC005.jpg


(for redtrevisios benefit - the woman is Thatcher. The man is David Cameron, the recently elected Prime Minister of Great Britain)

simo1733 said:
I agree. By American definition every government in europe would be leftist including the right wing one's.

You dont know much about europe do you:rolleyes:
 

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Wow. talk about going off on rants with extreme exagerations.

Since the El Salvador event which you mention the democrats have received more votes in 4 out of 5 presidential elections and came mighty close in the 5th. Today A majority of Governors in America are Democrats, The President is a Democrat and the Senate is Democrat controlled.

Hardly sounds like a country where those "likely not to vote republican" are "commies" :rolleyes:

And what was that about anyone left of oliver north being a "marxist commie socialist" ?

And Yet even more nonsense dude got the point

Clear trolling on your part.


Im no fan of Margaret Thatcher, but she was the longest serving UK Prime Minister for over a century. She won 3 elections, and after she left her party won the next general election as well.


Oh and heres a recent picture of Thatcher showing just how unwanted the GOPs favourite foreign politician is.

2010-06-08-LadyThatcherandDavidC005.jpg


(for redtrevisios benefit - the woman is Thatcher. The man is David Cameron, the recently elected Prime Minister of Great Britain)

You dont have a clue dude not a clue boring rubbish

You dont know much about europe do you:rolleyes:


What a load of boring cobblers don't use trolling as an excuse to deny Your own cobblers You are cleary full of crap you dont even know where i am from dude the politics of europe is as boring as hell an that is what boring people ramble on about you my friend are a self deluded expert on subject matters that You think You know about some time you have to listen to the truth instead of deluding your self further i don't care about bloody boring politics as I said You are full of nonsense self deluded this is not trolling You just cant handle the truth
 
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Hitch..You are clearly trolling saying others are full of it when you go all fanboy for things right wing..You do that stupid caveat "I'm no fan of thatcher" etc just like teabaggers who never ever ever didn't vote for republicans claim to be critical. (the "bush who?" republicans)

Hitch..You really should try paying attention to what you claim to know something about.. Like Foxnews and the MSM in general.. For the last 10 years foxnews in particular calls all liberal, democratic politicians leftists..The US congress has an isle down the middle..Viewed from the back the republicans are on the right and the democrats are on the left. (or is it the other way around?). Anything from the non republican side of the room is described on foxnews as "from the left" (with a sneer)...It could be an issue of which kinds of bombs to buy or drop and fox would still pound out the hint that the non republicans are the voice of the left..leftists, leftist guerrillas, socialists, communists, marxists.. The number of leftists in the US congress is ZERO..The number of socialists and marxists in the US congress is also ZERO.. We have no labor party..

I didn't mention europe or atilla the hen..but Republican Eisenhower would be too far left for the democratic party today..
 

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To the hitch are You experiencing delusions of grandeur about becoming the next leader in ten downing street or are You proud of the fact that the British bull dog spirit is such a fallacy AS IN reality the great British empire is responsible for wars In northern ireland, africa from their FROM THEIR yEARS OF COLONISATION . aND yET yOU HAVE THE AUDACITY to speak of germany in such negetive terms as well as the politics of america

Don't worry The hitch I am just kiddin with You
 
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Hitch..You really should try paying attention to what you claim to know something about.. Like Foxnews and the MSM in general.. For the last 10 years foxnews in particular calls all liberal, democratic politicians leftists.

Umm hang on. Hang on.

This is what you said.

redtreviso said:
workers in any definable group=bad socialist, commie (likely not to vote republican)..
redtreviso said:
Any one left of Ollie North is a marxist commie sociali[/B]st..
You said that the definition in America is “Anyone left of Ollie North is a Marxist commie socialist”.

Everyone not likely to vote Republican is a commie.

Now you say Fox simply "calls the democratic politicians leftists".

This is hardly the same as calling those "likely not to vote republican", ie about 60 % of the electorate, "commies " :rolleyes:

So you admit your original posts were big exagerations?

.You do that stupid caveat "I'm no fan of thatcher" etc just like teabaggers who never ever ever didn't vote for republicans claim to be critical. (the "bush who?" republicans)


If you are goint to accuse me of lying when I say “I am not a fan of Margaret Thatcher” then surely you must have some evidence that I am a fan of Margaret Thatcher.

You must have, somewhere, a quote by me saying Thatcher was a good prime minister, defending here or perhaps a picture of me at a Thatcher rally, or something of the sort.

Since you have made this serious accusation I DEMAND to see the evidence.
 
And i cant help but feel a little justified in my portrayal of you as Amerocentric when i see this.
redtreviso said:
.You do that stupid caveat "I'm no fan of thatcher" etc just like teabaggers who never ever ever didn't vote for republicans claim to be critical. (the "bush who?" republicans)
So even when i mention Thatcher, a british politician, in a sentence entirely about British politics, I am betraying my alleged top secret allegiance to the US republican party :eek:

You might be interested to know that the sentence stucture " I am not.... but..." is widely in use outside of the US republican party.

Actually its used in places like Europe and Australia and Africa where the Republican party has no influence.

Wierd isnt it :cool:
 
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The Hitch said:
Umm hang on. Hang on.

This is what you said.



You said that the definition in America is “Anyone left of Ollie North is a Marxist commie socialist”.

Everyone not likely to vote Republican is a commie.

Now you say Fox simply "calls the democratic politicians leftists".

This is hardly the same as calling those "likely not to vote republican", ie about 60 % of the electorate, "commies " :rolleyes:

So you admit your original posts were big exagerations?




If you are goint to accuse me of lying when I say “I am not a fan of Margaret Thatcher” then surely you must have some evidence that I am a fan of Margaret Thatcher.

You must have, somewhere, a quote by me saying Thatcher was a good prime minister, defending here or perhaps a picture of me at a Thatcher rally, or something of the sort.

Since you have made this serious accusation I DEMAND to see the evidence.

Workers as a group were/are the enemy of Ronald Reagan..Citizens as a group too...At the expense of destroying huge chunks of the US economy any group not loyal to the republican party is targeted for destruction. It is only the brown nosed authoritarian worshiping working individual that republicans pretend to look out for..Anything left of the non questioning is a threat to the republican ideal..

As for Thatcher..Your little disclaimers aren't fooling anyone..and quoting D'nish DeSouza...Please spare us your (not really) critical views on Ayn Rand and David Duke.
 

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Hitch..You are clearly trolling saying others are full of it when you go all fanboy for things right wing..You do that stupid caveat "I'm no fan of thatcher" etc just like teabaggers who never ever ever didn't vote for republicans claim to be critical. (the "bush who?" republicans)

Hitch..You really should try paying attention to what you claim to know something about.. Like Foxnews and the MSM in general.. For the last 10 years foxnews in particular calls all liberal, democratic politicians leftists..The US congress has an isle down the middle..Viewed from the back the republicans are on the right and the democrats are on the left. (or is it the other way around?). Anything from the non republican side of the room is described on foxnews as "from the left" (with a sneer)...It could be an issue of which kinds of bombs to buy or drop and fox would still pound out the hint that the non republicans are the voice of the left..leftists, leftist guerrillas, socialists, communists, marxists.. The number of leftists in the US congress is ZERO..The number of socialists and marxists in the US congress is also ZERO.. We have no labor party..

I didn't mention europe or atilla the hen..but Republican Eisenhower would be too far left for the democratic party today..

Precisely.

Obama is a Democrat in name only. His policies are not even moderate Republican. They are 1990's era, Newt Gingrich, contract with America, Republican.....

Now of course, Newt, is talking about WWIII with Muslims. A war he, of course, wouldn't fight, but send your kids to fight.
 
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Precisely.

Obama is a Democrat in name only. His policies are not even moderate Republican. They are 1990's era, Newt Gingrich, contract with America, Republican.....

Now of course, Newt, is talking about WWIII with Muslims. A war he, of course, wouldn't fight, but send your kids to fight.

Clinton too...Clinton and Obama are barely what I would accept as moderate republicans.. Clinton undid absolutely nothing that Newt and Reagan infected this country with.. Obama, even with a second term will not either..Meanwhile all these Tbaggers want their country back...pffffffft..
 
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