World Politics

[redtreviso]

Most of what simple scotty is sh--soiling his pants about happened right here..

 

[Hugh Januss]

stopped by to see if everyone here had come to a consensus. Guess not.

For the most part I believe we have come to two distinct consensuses (consensi ?)

 

[Anonymous]

Bad analogy or not, nobody can undo 8 years of f**k-up in 2 years.

Perhaps, but it takes true talent to make matters worse.

 

[Anonymous]

Most of what simple scotty is sh--soiling his pants about happened right here..

Dubya is sketchy but your worship of BO concerns me;

 

[Anonymous]

Redtrevisos hero;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsDwEUJPlSU



It's true.... you can't make this **** up.

 

[Anonymous]

Well, at least BO has kept one campaign promise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6T2L_rShoc&feature=relmfu


Children running the country is necessarily a bad idea.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Some congressmen and women were bored to tears today, by the speech of as the americans call her, Juliar Gillard's.She describesd the realisation of when she saw americans land someone on the moon which made her realise that with American's, anything is possible.

Biggest load of jingoistic **** licking I have ever heard in my life.

 

[rhubroma]

"The moment is right for the Americans to reflect upon why for the past 30 years they consented to having their elected representatives support a ruthless dictator such as Mubarak. It's the moment to ask, for example, what are the reasons that brought the current vice president, Joe Bidon, to affirm just last January 27th that Mubarak isn't a dictator."

Hisham Matar, noted Libyan writer and intellectual and author of Anatomy of a Disappearance, in an interview in New Yorker.

Hisham's father, Jaballa, disappeared from his apartment in Cairo in 1990. He was last seen over ten years ago detained in a Libyan prison, having been brought there by the Egyptian secret service at the behest of Mubarak and in collusion with Gaddafi, simply for having demanded the same freedoms and liberty for the Egyptians and Arabs of the Maghreb that are enjoyed by the people of the US and the West.

It's fine that the US and Europe now support the Arab springtime from Bahrain to Benghazi. However there isn't enough self-criticism. In the US congress and in all the Western parliaments there should be interrogations: how could we ever have supported, taken advantage of, exploited and encouraged the brutality of Arab dictators for 30 years? To what point had this cynical encouragement of these despots by us fueled and incremented the jihadist rage and Al Qaeda that the Western societies now ferociously try to keep at bay?

The West under US leadership has for a long time now been fully aware of the crimes of folks like Gaddafi and Hosini Mubarak. Whereas the "crime" of Jaballa Matar was having believed in the same freedom and democracy that was so cynically exploited by the former Bush administration to justify their ideological war for oil in Iraq.

Well the truth is that the Cairo-Tripoli axis was convenient. Mubarak and Gaddafi, because of their secret service, illegal detainments and the cold peace with Israel, were just as convenient for Egypt for Libyan oil and gas as it was for Libya. And all of this in the strategic sense, especially as regards Israel, was equally convenient to Washington and the governments of Europe.

There was one colossal problem, however, it wasn't at all convenient to the Arabs living under these heinous regimes we supported. But of course people like Scott SoCal and his conservative colleagues would never care a fig for this issue, because they only care about what they believe is good for themselves.

If we have supported these criminals, then we share in their crimes. And even if it were only one Jaballa Matar that has had to pay the unsupportable price of his own liberty because of this, then our governments, and hence the people who elected them, are all guilty of an injustice for which there is no moral alibi nor political justification. To the contrary, this is why America and the West has for some time lost all moral and ethical purchase in the region and this has fueled the same anti-Americanism and anti-Westernism that makes any military intervention now to help the Arab revolutionaries very risky business. Especially because it is all to easy to go in with fighter planes and bombs and ground troops, but all to difficult to get out.

The noted reporter Timothy Garton Ash in his book Facts are Subversive cites the Polish poet Czeslaw Milosz: "Don't think you are safe - the poet makes him remember - You can kill him, but another one will rise up in his place. The acts and words will be registered". The poet reminds us that the crimes of a Mubarak and a Gaddafi will be recorded for history and so too will our role in the disappearance of the Jaballa Matar and the innumerable dead who have given their lives for the cause of liberty and justice.

I have said this before: we are so concerned about our fears and interests that we have forgotten that it is really theirs, the Arabs during their democratic springtime, that one is talking about now. But this, evidently, Scott SoCal is incapable of understanding (or refuses to).

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

No need to compare how bad Bush was to what Obama hasn't done, is there? I will say this though. I can't believe that the Dems kept Nan Pelosi and Harry Reid in leadership positions. Unreal. The Dems would have been better off with just about anyone in the House. I would have even picked Dennis Kucinich. Yeah, he's a bit of a loon, but the guy is truer to his word and a lot harder to corrupt. Nan bends like reed in the wind. Remember her "drain the swamp"? Then she had the gall to imply she actually did it. Unreal.

I think those plans by Obama are long-term. We saw this from Carter and his famous "Malaise Speech", which was very forward thinking, but also very dour. Actually, every President since about Nixon has said we would reduce our dependency on foreign oil, and alternative energy planning is a very good idea. But you're right Scott, a lot of these ideas they have not shown good leadership, and mucked a lot of it up. Take a look at how confusing and messy the Cash For Clunkers plan was, and how good it could have been. Compare what we tried to the plan that Germany did for example.

I'd be all for high speed rail, if we could afford it. And I don't trust the government to go about it evenly, fairly. I thoroughly envision a big cash cow with a lot of insider contracts going to biggest donors. Just like the rest of the system. The trains would go in, they'd take 10 years minimum to start to make any actual money, and then we be hearing stories in Time or on 60 Minutes about how some company got paid $20,000 per rail stake that was never even used, or how the system is actually going to cost triple what the government initially said, or how some politician got a giant campaign contribution from some contractor who wanted it in their district/state because it would "create jobs", even though their district didn't really need it nearly as much as one in another area, and this area will take 20 years until it starts to make any money, etc.

 

[Anonymous]

Dubya is sketchy but your worship of BO concerns me;

Idiot? Uh, yea, a guy who was editor of the Harvard Law Review doesn't qualify. In fact, if you combine the IQ of these two moronic hags, you still don't reach Obama's. Any party that supports people like these two have a blanket of stupidity covering them.

 

[Spare Tyre]

Some congressmen and women were bored to tears today, by the speech of as the americans call her, Juliar Gillard's.She describesd the realisation of when she saw americans land someone on the moon which made her realise that with American's, anything is possible.

Biggest load of jingoistic **** licking I have ever heard in my life.

According to the several news reports I read it didn't sound like many of them were bored, actually. Quite the opposite.

 

[Anonymous]

Idiot? Uh, yea, a guy who was editor of the Harvard Law Review doesn't qualify. In fact, if you combine the IQ of these two moronic hags, you still don't reach Obama's. Any party that supports people like these two have a blanket of stupidity covering them.

Yep. Can you imagine those two running or on a ticket together? Yikes...

I'm pretty sure BO is a bright guy but he continues to make some horrendous policy moves... which makes me wonder what his plan is (or more likely a lack of a plan).

Having a law degree with zero business sense gives us what we have: A idealogue who hasn't a clue what he's doing.

 

[TRDean]

Yep. Can you imagine those two running or on a ticket together? Yikes...

I'm pretty sure BO is a bright guy but he continues to make some horrendous policy moves... which makes me wonder what his plan is (or more likely a lack of a plan).

Having a law degree with zero business sense give us what we have: A idealogue who hasn't a clue what he's doing.

Funny, it seems to me a person gets a law degree in the US and they think they can do anything. Maybe a problem with congress/politicians is that there are too many "know it all" lawyers. What experience (other than roberts rules of order) does a lawyer bring to anything outside of actual law??? Very little.

 

[redtreviso]

Yep. Can you imagine those two running or on a ticket together? Yikes...

I'm pretty sure BO is a bright guy but he continues to make some horrendous policy moves... which makes me wonder what his plan is (or more likely a lack of a plan).

Having a law degree with zero business sense give us what we have: A idealogue who hasn't a clue what he's doing.

Lets not forget what these extortionists were threatening to do. You expect Obama to crush their hands when Bush just handed the fate of the economy to them?

 

[Anonymous]

Lets not forget what these extortionists were threatening to do. You expect Obama to crush their hands when Bush just handed the fate of the economy to them?

Please spare me.

I'll type s l o w l y here. 5 Trillion in new debt. Unemployment still around 9%. Pathetic GDP, GNP growth. QEII, monetizing our debt. Energy prices, uh, real high. 35% of TOTAL wages in this country are paid by the federal govt. Unemployment is now the second largest federal entitlement....

Gitmo, Afghanistan, Geitner, Holder....

You want me to go on?? Again I'll remind you who the President actually is now.

 

[Anonymous]

Oh, and then there is Kathleen Sebelius caught in a 500 billion dollar (Obamacare) lie...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukaIZ7pmabo


True corruption right in front of your eyes.

 

[redtreviso]

Please spare me.

I'll type s l o w l y here. 5 Trillion in new debt. Unemployment still around 9%. Pathetic GDP, GNP growth. QEII, monetizing our debt. Energy prices, uh, real high. 35% of TOTAL wages in this country are paid by the federal govt. Unemployment is now the second largest federal entitlement....

Gitmo, Afghanistan, Geitner, Holder....

You want me to go on?? Again I'll remind you who the President actually is now.

All because of you scott..The new debt is the extortion Bush brought us..You should go back to crying about your friend David Koresh and that mean old Janet Reno. You suppose Obama hasn't been told how many John Hinkleys they have ready if he were to repeal Gramm Leach Biely by executive order?

 

[Anonymous]

All because of you scott..The new debt is the extortion Bush brought us..You should go back to crying about your friend David Koresh and that mean old Janet Reno. You suppose Obama hasn't been told how many John Hinkleys they have ready if he were to repeal Gramm Leach Biely by executive order?

Sheesh, I had no idea I had such a big hammer.

More pretzel logic from you. I can only imagine what the picture must look like when you connect your dots.

Please keep going and by all means, don't let facts get in your way...

 

[fatandfast]

Oh, and then there is Kathleen Sebelius caught in a 500 billion dollar (Obamacare) lie...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukaIZ7pmabo


True corruption right in front of your eyes.

I don't know all the facts about health care and how to fix it. I also don't feel so bad because nobody else does either. I read a story ( WSJ or NYT?) where small and medium size employers talked about huge increases in insurance premiums over the last 7 to 8 years. Before Obama anything. Also they talked about the explanations offered by the insurance companies, none of them were very specific for increases of 10-45%.
One business owner that makes printed circuit boards says that the market stumps him. He says since he had been in business, every supplier and service without exception gave him a volume discount. Simple math based on increased volume with that supplier.
Obama's statements about everything from the US.Post Office, Military,small business, retirement benefits, to everybody else, health care costs are chocking everybody. No matter what the solution, and as I said I don't know what it is, the system is going to make us go under, with or without Obamacare.

I watched a little of the Post Master General speak in front of congress about a possible bailout and the agency restructuring. He said that the healthcare costs at current levels, paying for pensioners and up to date contributions for people involved in the current retirement/benefit structure took @38% of there total resources. Not sure if it was fuzzy math but it was stated by 3 experts that even with all the outdated and non-effective methods they still would have turned a profit without the burden of explosive health care costs

 

[Anonymous]

I don't know all the facts about health care and how to fix it. I also don't feel so bad because nobody else does either. I read a story ( WSJ or NYT?) where small and medium size employers talked about huge increases in insurance premiums over the last 7 to 8 years. Before Obama anything. Also they talked about the explanations offered by the insurance companies, none of them were very specific for increases of 10-45%.
One business owner that makes printed circuit boards says that the market stumps him. He says since he had been in business, every supplier and service without exception gave him a volume discount. Simple math based on increased volume with that supplier.
Obama's statements about everything from the US.Post Office, Military,small business, retirement benefits, to everybody else, health care costs are chocking everybody. No matter what the solution, and as I said I don't know what it is, the system is going to make us go under, with or without Obamacare.

I watched a little of the Post Master General speak in front of congress about a possible bailout and the agency restructuring. He said that the healthcare costs at current levels, paying for pensioners and up to date contributions for people involved in the current retirement/benefit structure took @38% of there total resources. Not sure if it was fuzzy math but it was stated by 3 experts that even with all the outdated and non-effective methods they still would have turned a profit without the burden of explosive health care costs

Then why are there not efforts to curb costs? There are things that can be done. Obamacare isn't about that. It's about creating a federal entitlement and additional federal dependency. It's as simple as that.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

All because of you scott..The new debt is the extortion Bush brought us..You should go back to crying about your friend David Koresh and that mean old Janet Reno. You suppose Obama hasn't been told how many John Hinkleys they have ready if he were to repeal Gramm Leach Biely by executive order?

BTW we are on the 3rd year and there has been no change. Your still putting the entire laundry list on President Bush, eventually President Obama will have to CHANGE something and be RESPONSIBLE. You know like when you make a decision and it does not work out OWN up to it.

Hey any updates from the FoxNews or EIB network?

 

[redtreviso]

BTW we are on the 3rd year and there has been no change. Your still putting the entire laundry list on President Bush, eventually President Obama will have to CHANGE something and be RESPONSIBLE. You know like when you make a decision and it does not work out OWN up to it.

Hey any updates from the FoxNews or EIB network?

8 years of your silence and now you want change NOW..unburn my house down.

 

[Anonymous]

8 years of your silence and now you want change NOW..unburn my house down.

Thick.

There has been huge change. I'll bang the debt drum one more time for your benefit. $220 Billion in February alone.

Hello <tapping microphone>, is this thing on??

 

[Anonymous]

Funny, it seems to me a person gets a law degree in the US and they think they can do anything. Maybe a problem with congress/politicians is that there are too many "know it all" lawyers. What experience (other than roberts rules of order) does a lawyer bring to anything outside of actual law??? Very little.

Uh, considering that congress is a law making body... Also, lawyers are actual people, so their experience in life is far more vast than just "roberts rules of order." Your statement is quite ignorant, but then again, going for the easy target requires little actual thought.

 

[fatandfast]

Then why are there not efforts to curb costs? There are things that can be done. Obamacare isn't about that. It's about creating a federal entitlement and additional federal dependency. It's as simple as that.

as I said I don't know the answer. I do know that every American should be cared for cradle to grave with the amount of money we generate. Health care also needs to be transportable. The guy who runs the local ice cream place,coffee shop or bike shop should not have to work in @400-800 for an indv health coverage into the cost of their goods and services.

If you fell off your bicycle and cracked your eye socket and have an eye and ear/hearing condition that will never go away (if you want specifics) You should not have to 1125.00 per month (down from 1500) for health care. And a person under 40 that doesn't smoke and socially drinks should not be counted as a high risk person to ensure. AnyCare private/government/combination, whatever. You should be able to health care period..and it shouldn't cost 75% of your income.

If you are mad at Obama, I get that. But please spell out health care for a 21 year old, going to school, busing tables or turning a wrench at the LBS. If the guy is making 8 or 10 bucks an hour how can he afford, after taxes 4-500 bucks a month? We just need healthcare..yes , will take it from PETA,NOW, Tea party, Dems, Gop anybody just f -cking get it.