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Islam is not the problem here. It's just an excuse found by left-winger to talk about immigration. As Adrien Abauzit suggests: "We may not talk about Maghrebis as Maghrebis because that would be racist but we may talk about them as Muslims because we may criticise religions."
But at least here in Belgium, Islam is totally off topic. In the sixties, it was no problem, we had full employment and needed workforce for our coal mines. But today, immigration becomes a problem because we got no more jobs to offer them and that they would inevitably fall into delinquence and riff raff, which are liberal phenomena that started with the youth culture of the sixties (mods, rockers, black jacket, etc.) here in Europe & the US, something that the liberals obviously don't want to see. It's a Western phenomenon, and it suggests self-criticism on our part. The theological canons of Islam however have nothing to do with this, they are more on the reaction side. That's what I been trying to explain to my dear friend BigMac but I don't know he reads me.
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Islam is not the problem here. It's just an excuse found by left-winger to talk about immigration. As Adrien Abauzit suggests: "We may not talk about Maghrebis as Maghrebis because that would be racist but we may talk about them as Muslims because we may criticise religions."
But at least here in Belgium, Islam is totally off topic. In the sixties, it was no problem, we had full employment and needed workforce for our coal mines. But today, immigration becomes a problem because we got no more jobs to offer them and that they would inevitably fall into delinquence and riff raff, which are liberal phenomena that started with the youth culture of the sixties (mods, rockers, black jacket, etc.) here in Europe & the US, something that the liberals obviously don't want to see. It's a Western phenomenon, and it suggests self-criticism on our part. The theological canons of Islam however have nothing to do with this, they are more on the reaction side. That's what I been trying to explain to my dear friend BigMac but I don't know he reads me.
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You may not know this but Australia had a strict "White Australia Policy" regarding immigration that was only removed in the late 60's
Interesting. Things must be different in Belgium because the anti immigration movement is coming from the right wing over here. Unlike Continental Europe Australia still has the capacity to expand and be inclusive of immigrants.Echoes said:42x16ss said:
Islam is not the problem here. It's just an excuse found by left-winger to talk about immigration. As Adrien Abauzit suggests: "We may not talk about Maghrebis as Maghrebis because that would be racist but we may talk about them as Muslims because we may criticise religions."
But at least here in Belgium, Islam is totally off topic. In the sixties, it was no problem, we had full employment and needed workforce for our coal mines. But today, immigration becomes a problem because we got no more jobs to offer them and that they would inevitably fall into delinquence and riff raff, which are liberal phenomena that started with the youth culture of the sixties (mods, rockers, black jacket, etc.) here in Europe & the US, something that the liberals obviously don't want to see. It's a Western phenomenon, and it suggests self-criticism on our part. The theological canons of Islam however have nothing to do with this, they are more on the reaction side. That's what I been trying to explain to my dear friend BigMac but I don't know he reads me.
You may not know this but Australia had a strict "White Australia Policy" regarding immigration that was only removed in the late 60's
- Jun 22, 2009
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I really wasn't aware that things were as different in Belgium as Echoes claims, and I have serious doubts about his take. In Holland, in Germany, and in France, anti-immigration and anti-Islamic sentiments are driven by the right wing, like foxxy's fellow travelers in Pegida, and like the revolting Geert Wilders here.
42x16ss said:Interesting. Things must be different in Belgium because the anti immigration movement is coming from the right wing over here. Unlike Continental Europe Australia still has the capacity to expand and be inclusive of immigrants.Echoes said:42x16ss said:
Islam is not the problem here. It's just an excuse found by left-winger to talk about immigration. As Adrien Abauzit suggests: "We may not talk about Maghrebis as Maghrebis because that would be racist but we may talk about them as Muslims because we may criticise religions."
But at least here in Belgium, Islam is totally off topic. In the sixties, it was no problem, we had full employment and needed workforce for our coal mines. But today, immigration becomes a problem because we got no more jobs to offer them and that they would inevitably fall into delinquence and riff raff, which are liberal phenomena that started with the youth culture of the sixties (mods, rockers, black jacket, etc.) here in Europe & the US, something that the liberals obviously don't want to see. It's a Western phenomenon, and it suggests self-criticism on our part. The theological canons of Islam however have nothing to do with this, they are more on the reaction side. That's what I been trying to explain to my dear friend BigMac but I don't know he reads me.
You may not know this but Australia had a strict "White Australia Policy" regarding immigration that was only removed in the late 60's
I really wasn't aware that things were as different in Belgium as Echoes claims, and I have serious doubts about his take. In Holland, in Germany, and in France, anti-immigration and anti-Islamic sentiments are driven by the right wing, like foxxy's fellow travelers in Pegida, and like the revolting Geert Wilders here.
Yes, Australia must be different since there is so many natural ressources for a relatively small population, that's why I can't speak for Oz but in Europe, it's impossible to massively welcome new immigrant, for pratical reasons. Nothing to do with hatred, xenophobia or racism.
I did not claim that the Left here was anti-immigration but clearly the driving force behind Islamophobia is the "caviar" Zionist left. In Belgium or in France with intellectual figures such as Bernard-Henri Levy or Michel Onfray. The support for Ayaan Irsi Ali comes from the Left, at least in Francophony. The veil ban was widely supported by the left, in France. Much more than the right. The Left supported all the wars in the Middle-East and Northern Africa, they've destroyed all the Land of Islam. Oh and of course, the poster that you mention, Amster, clearly epitomises this trend.
We need to dissociate immigration from Islam. These are not the same thing. A lot of recent migrants come from subsaharian Africa, so a non-Islamic culture and they sometimes cause trouble in Europe too. The far-right nationalist movement's obsession with Islam is a relatively recent phenomenon and to explain it, I recently post a Youtube clip with Nick Griffin explaining how Israeli lobbies pressured nationalists to focus on the Islamic issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHfAcPQfGAE Of course, I've been labeled anti-Semitic for that reason, as though I was a supporter of his, which I'm not. I just think it might be an explanation for Wilders' & Le Pen daughter's total support of Israel and their obsession with Islam, while the conservative are not traditionally anti-Islam.
I did not claim that the Left here was anti-immigration but clearly the driving force behind Islamophobia is the "caviar" Zionist left. In Belgium or in France with intellectual figures such as Bernard-Henri Levy or Michel Onfray. The support for Ayaan Irsi Ali comes from the Left, at least in Francophony. The veil ban was widely supported by the left, in France. Much more than the right. The Left supported all the wars in the Middle-East and Northern Africa, they've destroyed all the Land of Islam. Oh and of course, the poster that you mention, Amster, clearly epitomises this trend.
We need to dissociate immigration from Islam. These are not the same thing. A lot of recent migrants come from subsaharian Africa, so a non-Islamic culture and they sometimes cause trouble in Europe too. The far-right nationalist movement's obsession with Islam is a relatively recent phenomenon and to explain it, I recently post a Youtube clip with Nick Griffin explaining how Israeli lobbies pressured nationalists to focus on the Islamic issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHfAcPQfGAE Of course, I've been labeled anti-Semitic for that reason, as though I was a supporter of his, which I'm not. I just think it might be an explanation for Wilders' & Le Pen daughter's total support of Israel and their obsession with Islam, while the conservative are not traditionally anti-Islam.
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bold: Quotes by rhubroma
Australians want to control immigration precisely to the degree that they don't need the riff raff and are safely ensconsed in their remote, prosperous, post-aboriginal haven. Funny how that works, doesn't it?
It´s not funny, it´s smart. As you and I wouldn´t let in some street guys in our homes. Why should we?
So far, so good....
But really annoying and dangerous are those fake lefties who live behind their steel curtains, let nobody in their homes & mansions, "drink wine & preach water", but force those who can´t afford such "safe heavens", to live with the consequences of their let-them-all-in-politics.... And then those hypos call you "white supremascist". Disgusting, disgusting, and more disgusting... Hello Amsterhammer.
The only thing that is certain about the poor in Africa, is that they don't have a voice and they certainly don't have the right to a passport of access to the so called developed world.
And that´s where everybody can help. As I did, in Africa, right at the front... where fake lefties never go: rural areas where battered women and kids live that never make it to the ships of the rapists (IOW: the so-called refugees that intrude Europe by tens of thousands)
The corollary of this, of course, has been the centuries of colonialism and overpowering that the West has brought, and certainly without even the need of a passport, into their domain.
Agree on that. Only that it´s the small "elite" of rich psychos doing/did the harm (latest example being Drone mass murder Obama & his gang of the fakiest lefties ever). So why shall the average Joe of Europe or USA pay the price?
bold: Quotes by rhubroma
Australians want to control immigration precisely to the degree that they don't need the riff raff and are safely ensconsed in their remote, prosperous, post-aboriginal haven. Funny how that works, doesn't it?
It´s not funny, it´s smart. As you and I wouldn´t let in some street guys in our homes. Why should we?
So far, so good....
But really annoying and dangerous are those fake lefties who live behind their steel curtains, let nobody in their homes & mansions, "drink wine & preach water", but force those who can´t afford such "safe heavens", to live with the consequences of their let-them-all-in-politics.... And then those hypos call you "white supremascist".
Disgusting, disgusting, and more disgusting... Hello Amsterhammer. The only thing that is certain about the poor in Africa, is that they don't have a voice and they certainly don't have the right to a passport of access to the so called developed world.
And that´s where everybody can help. As I did, in Africa, right at the front... where fake lefties never go: rural areas where battered women and kids live that never make it to the ships of the rapists (IOW: the so-called refugees that intrude Europe by tens of thousands)
The corollary of this, of course, has been the centuries of colonialism and overpowering that the West has brought, and certainly without even the need of a passport, into their domain.
Agree on that. Only that it´s the small "elite" of rich psychos doing/did the harm (latest example being Drone mass murder Obama & his gang of the fakiest lefties ever). So why shall the average Joe of Europe or USA pay the price?
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Bold: Quote by Amsterhammer
Foxxxy, on the other hand, would side with the skinhead.
Shut up! You don´t know a fuck about me. So stop your insults. I have nothing to do with skinheads...
Bold: Quote by Amsterhammer
Foxxxy, on the other hand, would side with the skinhead.
Shut up! You don´t know a fuck about me. So stop your insults. I have nothing to do with skinheads...
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My sentiments were directed at both past and current issues surrounding the crisis of immigration and to the two status world, which the industrialized countries have imposed upon the global poor. This while having at the same time historically taken advantage either through direct colonial conquest or corporate exploitation of resources, which have thrown these poor regions into chaos, war and despair. Throw in the destabilization caused by Western intervention in the name of "liberty and democracy" and the crisis has reached unimaginable proportions, which were unthinkable just a couple of decades ago. This seems to me to be the elephant that the prosperous regions have no intention of seeing, let alone addressing, while instead reactionary nationalisms rear their ugly heads, especially given the economic crisis caused by its own bloated system and the erosion of the middle class this has caused.
The situation is complex, economically scandalous, a political a debacle: in short the vexato questio of our times. While it will only get worse, I am sure. I'm also sure that until the macro issues are dealt with, the forces at work that drive immigrants to risk their skins to get to Europe will remain unaltered.
I don't, however, find your argument that one political-social class is to blame to be very convincing. Let's put it this way, given what's been done between colonialism and capitalism it's not very rational to exonerate reactionaries from their xenophobia, nor do I find those more prone to tolerance guilty of the lack of vigilance you seem to condemn them for with regards to defending the patria.
On the other hand, the only way you are going to change the phenomenon is to change this economy and this globalization. Yet this doesn't seem to be at all in the interests of those who are usually most vocal about pissing on the riff raff, while at the same time being unwilling to do anything about changing the cause behind what brings them to their shores.
FoxxyBrown1111 said:bold:
It´s not funny, it´s smart. As you and I wouldn´t let in some street guys in our homes. Why should we?
So far, so good....
But really annoying and dangerous are those fake lefties who live behind their steel curtains, let nobody in their homes & mansions, "drink wine & preach water", but force those who can´t afford such "safe heavens", to live with the consequences of their let-them-all-in-politics.... And then those hypos call you "white supremascist".
And that´s where everybody can help. As I did, in Africa, right at the front... where fake lefties never go: rural areas where battered women and kids live that never make it to the ships of the rapists (IOW: the so-called refugees that intrude Europe by tens of thousands)
Agree on that. Only that it´s the small "elite" of rich psychos doing/did the harm (latest example being Drone mass murder Obama & his gang of the fakiest lefties ever). So why shall the average Joe of Europe or USA pay the price?
My sentiments were directed at both past and current issues surrounding the crisis of immigration and to the two status world, which the industrialized countries have imposed upon the global poor. This while having at the same time historically taken advantage either through direct colonial conquest or corporate exploitation of resources, which have thrown these poor regions into chaos, war and despair. Throw in the destabilization caused by Western intervention in the name of "liberty and democracy" and the crisis has reached unimaginable proportions, which were unthinkable just a couple of decades ago. This seems to me to be the elephant that the prosperous regions have no intention of seeing, let alone addressing, while instead reactionary nationalisms rear their ugly heads, especially given the economic crisis caused by its own bloated system and the erosion of the middle class this has caused.
The situation is complex, economically scandalous, a political a debacle: in short the vexato questio of our times. While it will only get worse, I am sure. I'm also sure that until the macro issues are dealt with, the forces at work that drive immigrants to risk their skins to get to Europe will remain unaltered.
I don't, however, find your argument that one political-social class is to blame to be very convincing. Let's put it this way, given what's been done between colonialism and capitalism it's not very rational to exonerate reactionaries from their xenophobia, nor do I find those more prone to tolerance guilty of the lack of vigilance you seem to condemn them for with regards to defending the patria.
On the other hand, the only way you are going to change the phenomenon is to change this economy and this globalization. Yet this doesn't seem to be at all in the interests of those who are usually most vocal about pissing on the riff raff, while at the same time being unwilling to do anything about changing the cause behind what brings them to their shores.
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Australia is not the paradise many people think it is. The main thing in it's favour is it's remoteness from wars but I think sooner or later there will be a major terrorist incident in Australia. Especially with Australia always being involved in whatever is happening in the middle east. Rents are high, house prices in Sydney and Melbourne are over the top. 700 K won't get you a lot in Sydney. There is a rental crisis, not enough cheap housing, fulltime jobs are scarce especially outside Melbourne and Sydney. Universities continue to pump out thousands of graduates with little work for them. Australia is an aging population with 25% over 65. Yes the lifestyle is good but if you want to live more than the basic lifestyle you have to pay for it. It is cheaper for Australians to holiday in Bali or Asia than it is in Australia. The mineral boom is over and the mining industry has the arse falling out of it.
Many people took off for the mines to chase the dollars and now all of the jobs those people left are taken and people are holding onto jobs much longer. Australia is paying for it's inability to diversify and not invest locally in new technologies and alternative energy. Government cuts to research etc don't help. Australia's Medicare system and pension system is under extreme pressure. Youth unemployment is very high about 25% in some places. Yes the beer is cold the food is good, the sun shines, the beaches are there but scratch the surface and many people are stressed about their current situations and the future of the children. But next to many other countries as many Australians realize, it could always be much worse.
rhubroma said:
Australia is not the paradise many people think it is. The main thing in it's favour is it's remoteness from wars but I think sooner or later there will be a major terrorist incident in Australia. Especially with Australia always being involved in whatever is happening in the middle east. Rents are high, house prices in Sydney and Melbourne are over the top. 700 K won't get you a lot in Sydney. There is a rental crisis, not enough cheap housing, fulltime jobs are scarce especially outside Melbourne and Sydney. Universities continue to pump out thousands of graduates with little work for them. Australia is an aging population with 25% over 65. Yes the lifestyle is good but if you want to live more than the basic lifestyle you have to pay for it. It is cheaper for Australians to holiday in Bali or Asia than it is in Australia. The mineral boom is over and the mining industry has the arse falling out of it.
Many people took off for the mines to chase the dollars and now all of the jobs those people left are taken and people are holding onto jobs much longer. Australia is paying for it's inability to diversify and not invest locally in new technologies and alternative energy. Government cuts to research etc don't help. Australia's Medicare system and pension system is under extreme pressure. Youth unemployment is very high about 25% in some places. Yes the beer is cold the food is good, the sun shines, the beaches are there but scratch the surface and many people are stressed about their current situations and the future of the children. But next to many other countries as many Australians realize, it could always be much worse.
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Also, despite his rhetoric, if you look at the current program of the PVV, you can't really call Wilders right-wing anymore. Sure, he started out as right wing, but if you look at the economic policies in the program of the PVV, they're closer to the SP nowadays, than to the VVD or something. Not that they're left-wing either; I don't think there's a systematic left wing ideology behind these policies, like there is with the SP; it's just base populism without any real ideology as far as I'm concerned - as for Wilders, his ideas shouldn't be associated with either the left or the right.
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If a realistic tax structure was put in place for Rio Tinto, BHP-Billiton etc in the late 90's when investment was booming this country would be financially self sufficient for decades but our leaders cannot govern past their investment portfolios and the one PM who tried was completely lynched in the media.
This is just some of the ramifications from our federal governments letting resources companies dictate the terms of their trading and investments. BHP averaging 0.002% tax?????? That is beyond ludicrous, yet there's right and centre commentators trying to say it's ok because of the employment.movingtarget said:
If a realistic tax structure was put in place for Rio Tinto, BHP-Billiton etc in the late 90's when investment was booming this country would be financially self sufficient for decades but our leaders cannot govern past their investment portfolios and the one PM who tried was completely lynched in the media.
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wasn't it you, i had a quick convo recently about why the economically strong and secure ozzland became an american appendix.
you said something like, that's just the way it was and is historically. to which, w/o me doubting your facts about the land you live on, i stated my genuine surprise... thinking, many countries far less secure and much more dependent (and vulnerable to the uncle sam's ire) - chose a more independent being.
i still wonder the slavish foreign policy wisdom in the region where the australians are increasingly facing a choice btwn being drawn into a conflict with china against japan/us or just stay out and work productively with ALL sides.
the geopolitical power shift is obvious, the stubborn loyalty to the obsolete alliance is equally obvious...less obvious is the situation is due to something i dont understand or the plain lack of balls ?
these thoughts were brought to my mind after reading an article by your recently departed prime-minister frazer who was not imo the stupidest chap.
stealth ?blackcat said:
wasn't it you, i had a quick convo recently about why the economically strong and secure ozzland became an american appendix.
you said something like, that's just the way it was and is historically. to which, w/o me doubting your facts about the land you live on, i stated my genuine surprise... thinking, many countries far less secure and much more dependent (and vulnerable to the uncle sam's ire) - chose a more independent being.
i still wonder the slavish foreign policy wisdom in the region where the australians are increasingly facing a choice btwn being drawn into a conflict with china against japan/us or just stay out and work productively with ALL sides.
the geopolitical power shift is obvious, the stubborn loyalty to the obsolete alliance is equally obvious...less obvious is the situation is due to something i dont understand or the plain lack of balls ?
these thoughts were brought to my mind after reading an article by your recently departed prime-minister frazer who was not imo the stupidest chap.
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i think I said something about Whitlam did not eye, and when the Gov'r General and Opposition (Malcolm Fraser's torys) removed/denied confidence (GG) and the Torys denied supply in the upper house.
You know the epigram about American Embassies and coups. Well, young politicians, or advisors, the political class, they foment connections and dialogue in the american consulates here. They know that strong relationships can help them in the future.
Around WWII, was when we pivoted (sic, intentionally using the whitehouse word), we pivoted from the Empire and the old country, to being in the Americans orbit.
I cant see this changing, even if there is a hot-war with Taiwan-China and the Americans being drawn in, we will get drawn in.
This is the paper you would have read that Fraser was on about, and PJK(90s PrimeMinister KEating), and the ANU International Affairs Professor, Hugh White. (think JohnsHopkins strategy dude)
python said:
i think I said something about Whitlam did not eye, and when the Gov'r General and Opposition (Malcolm Fraser's torys) removed/denied confidence (GG) and the Torys denied supply in the upper house.
You know the epigram about American Embassies and coups. Well, young politicians, or advisors, the political class, they foment connections and dialogue in the american consulates here. They know that strong relationships can help them in the future.
Around WWII, was when we pivoted (sic, intentionally using the whitehouse word), we pivoted from the Empire and the old country, to being in the Americans orbit.
I cant see this changing, even if there is a hot-war with Taiwan-China and the Americans being drawn in, we will get drawn in.
This is the paper you would have read that Fraser was on about, and PJK(90s PrimeMinister KEating), and the ANU International Affairs Professor, Hugh White. (think JohnsHopkins strategy dude)
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South Korea, Thailand, New Zealand. In terms of support you would include the United Kingdom, The Philippines and Canada, probably some others too.
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South Korea, Thailand, New Zealand. In terms of support you would include the United Kingdom, The Philippines and Canada, probably some others too.
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Yes I think the Superannuation system and the Tax system need a major overhaul but I think it will be means tested pensions and Medicare changes for richer people more likely if the government has the maraccas to do it. Hard to believe that the government spent millions on the Henry report into tax reform and adopted one change out of hundreds suggested and a minor one at that. People are dreaming if they think the pension system and Medicare can continue as is. At the same time Private medical premiums are over the top considering you never get much back anyway. But every year they go up and more and more people will drop private medical insurance putting more pressure on the public system. With populations of Melbourne and Sydney also exploding they will also have to throw more money at the rail system and also new dams eventually. When Australia has a bad drought it can last a long time and desalination plants are not cost effective. A few politicians with vision might help as well.
42x16ss said:
Yes I think the Superannuation system and the Tax system need a major overhaul but I think it will be means tested pensions and Medicare changes for richer people more likely if the government has the maraccas to do it. Hard to believe that the government spent millions on the Henry report into tax reform and adopted one change out of hundreds suggested and a minor one at that. People are dreaming if they think the pension system and Medicare can continue as is. At the same time Private medical premiums are over the top considering you never get much back anyway. But every year they go up and more and more people will drop private medical insurance putting more pressure on the public system. With populations of Melbourne and Sydney also exploding they will also have to throw more money at the rail system and also new dams eventually. When Australia has a bad drought it can last a long time and desalination plants are not cost effective. A few politicians with vision might help as well.
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Merkel said, not too long ago "you don't spy on your friends".
I take it she hasn't got too many friends in Europe then:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/30/germany-spied-on-european-partners-on-behalf-of-us-for-years
I take it she hasn't got too many friends in Europe then:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/30/germany-spied-on-european-partners-on-behalf-of-us-for-years
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Won't happen. In spite of China-Taiwan saber rattling, they are really quite dependent, economically, with one another. PLUS in spite of China's bluster, they still spend a fraction of what the other 'big boys' do on defense. China isn't going to invade Taiwan any time soon, they have no amphibious navy nor the air power to do it.
China is growing but they are still a 2.5 world nation in terms of their military. They just have a HUGE army, but gotta move them, support them...
blackcat said:
Won't happen. In spite of China-Taiwan saber rattling, they are really quite dependent, economically, with one another. PLUS in spite of China's bluster, they still spend a fraction of what the other 'big boys' do on defense. China isn't going to invade Taiwan any time soon, they have no amphibious navy nor the air power to do it.
China is growing but they are still a 2.5 world nation in terms of their military. They just have a HUGE army, but gotta move them, support them...
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there is a theory, the public refrain in WaPo, NYTimes, equivalent SinoPravda, serves a purpose, behind the scenes the diplomacy on highlevels, the r-ship is quite sound and effective. even given those islands with japan.
public refrain is a diversion for the consumption by the domestic audience, and the highlevel diplomats would know that how the executive plays this domestic political game, and pay no attention
know this. the trading co-dependent r/ship. niall ferguson's chimerica.Bustedknuckle said:
there is a theory, the public refrain in WaPo, NYTimes, equivalent SinoPravda, serves a purpose, behind the scenes the diplomacy on highlevels, the r-ship is quite sound and effective. even given those islands with japan.
public refrain is a diversion for the consumption by the domestic audience, and the highlevel diplomats would know that how the executive plays this domestic political game, and pay no attention
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...here are some quite interesting/revealing stats....
"Shocking’ revelation finds $5.3tn subsidy estimate for 2015 is greater than the total health spending of all the world’s governments"
....from... http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/may/18/fossil-fuel-companies-getting-10m-a-minute-in-subsidies-says-imf
Cheers
"Shocking’ revelation finds $5.3tn subsidy estimate for 2015 is greater than the total health spending of all the world’s governments"
....from... http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/may/18/fossil-fuel-companies-getting-10m-a-minute-in-subsidies-says-imf
Cheers
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