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[movingtarget]

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Ukraine: un général français démonte le mythe de l'"invasion russe"
http://fr.sputniknews.com/international ... 00534.html
(in french)
Ukraine: A French General destroys the myth of the russian invasion

according to the article, the director of french military intelligence general christophe gomart accused the american intelligence of falsifying facts. specifically, speaking before one of the committees of the french parliament, he said russia was NEVER preparing to invade ukraine. he referred to some france's own sources. moreover, he basically hinted at the us abusing its leading role within nato while referring to the falsehood.

my comment on the news validity after some research:
the accusation, if true, is so sensational, that it required a validation...to start, the source of the article is NOT a genuine french-based media. therefore, attempting to find an independent confirmation, i googled 'christophe gomart' both in english and french...among the heap of irrelevant finds, i could find only the sputnik reprints with NONE pointing to a main stream source. this seemed strange, as the french media would go bananas if it had sniffed out the piece. finally, i came across this link (also in french):
http://www.dedefensa.org/article-en_pas ... _2015.html

in summary, if i understood it correctly, the link refers to a 8132-word document, a report of the parliamentary hearing where the general was questioned. it seems the general made those accusations indirectly, as if a slip of tongue, while answering a question by Frédéric Lefebvre, about the relations with nato.

iow, the sensational statement appears genuine. why the french main stream media passed it, is not clear to me.

A Russian backed invasion is still a Russian invasion and who was in the coffins going back over the border ? Everyone knows that some of the fighters were Russian conscripts but of course it was not on Russian TV as usual. Some actually refused to go. Russian backed mercenaries and Russian soldiers not in Russian uniforms with Russian weapons sounds like an invasion to me. Putin has already admitted he had plans for Crimea before the **** hit the fan in Kiev. The French are selling arms to Russia and are playing a balancing act it seems.

The French are currently not selling arms to Russia, or more correctly not delivering. Though the French did deliver Catherine thermal sights to Russian tanks quite a few years back. I think it was back in the late 90s or something.

The article above is likely not correct. Sputniknews is a part of the Russian propaganda apparatus. They like to add a grain of truth, then you are not likely to find any way to corroborate that information. The French general probably said something, but Sputnink news used part of what he said, and added/removed for the desired effect. Had the situation been as presented by sputnik, some the French media would have followed it up.

In this case it's to invoke memories of the run up to the invasion of Iraq where the US was providing misleading satellite images to convince countries to join. The French had a national capability and could debunk it. The Germans were given the French info. The point for the Russians is to sow division among Nato/EU countries.

Otherwise you are correct. Additionally back in august when it looked like the "rebels" would loose, Russia intervened with regular units to change the balance of power.

Their current strategy is to recruit contract soldiers then assemble them into new units. Some conscripts have been pressured/tricked into signing as well. Though I don't think this is policy. Likely more about commanders struggling to fill quotas.

I saw on TV somewhere that the French ships are in sea trials or some of them that were ordered by the Russians but like you said the French said that they would be delaying delivery.

 

[python]

Vladimir Putin authorises delivery of missile system to Iran
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/a ... em-to-iran

this is a very significant geopolitical development that would predictably raise anger in the us and israel. as we learned today, it sure did...

why did vlad decide to troll the us and israel NOW while himself being under the west's sanctions ?

to remind the contextual history... russia had concluded a deal with iran in 2007 according to which they obliged to supply one billion $$ worth of the most advanced surface-to-air s-300 missiles. most pundits commented at the time that if delivered, the missiles would essentially preclude ANY attack on the iranian nuclear sites. later, when the us and israel went berserk over the contract and put pressure, russia scrapped the contract. iran got pyssed and sued them for $4 billion.

this russian decision logic i don't understand...why now ? why so blatantly in the us face when both the us and the eu announced they will lift ANY sanction on iran only AFTER the new nuclear agreement with iran proves real ?

the only rational explanation for the in-your-face move i can see is - the 2 states currently under the west's sanctions decided to cooperate to reduce the sanctions effect and saying 'eff you, west'...?

perhaps the new development was also designed to send a message that the iran-russia common position in yemen and syria is going from now on receive an increasingly aggressive response if the west continued to support the saudi military escalation...this crap is too confusing

 

[movingtarget]

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Vladimir Putin authorises delivery of missile system to Iran
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/a ... em-to-iran

this is a very significant geopolitical development that would predictably raise anger in the us and israel. as we learned today, it sure did...

why did vlad decide to troll the us and israel NOW while himself being under the west's sanctions ?

to remind the contextual history... russia had concluded a deal with iran in 2007 according to which they obliged to supply one billion $$ worth of the most advanced surface-to-air s-300 missiles. most pundits commented at the time that if delivered, the missiles would essentially preclude ANY attack on the iranian nuclear sites. later, when the us and israel went berserk over the contract and put pressure, russia scrapped the contract. iran got pyssed and sued them for $4 billion.

this russian decision logic i don't understand...why now ? why so blatantly in the us face when both the us and the eu announced they will lift ANY sanction on iran only AFTER the new nuclear agreement with iran proves real ?

the only rational explanation for the in-your-face move i can see is - the 2 states currently under the west's sanctions decided to cooperate to reduce the sanctions effect and saying 'eff you, west'...?

perhaps the new development was also designed to send a message that the iran-russia common position in yemen and syria is going from now on receive an increasingly aggressive response if the west continued to support the saudi military escalation...this crap is too confusing

I don't think anyone fully understands Putin's thinking and that is why many fear him. Of course Putin is also conscious of that and probably enjoys it !

 

[python]

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I don't think anyone fully understands Putin's thinking and that is why many fear him. Of course Putin is also conscious of that and probably enjoys it !

i just stumbled on this...an interesting angle on the missile sale...
https://www.stratfor.com/weekly/russia- ... -iran-deal

the article's portal, stratfor, is sometimes called the cia's open-source brain-trust. what makes the following quote particularly curious is that the vlad move was preempted by the article written 6 days BEFORE the yesterday's announcement ! other analysis (about the pipeline diplomacy) are also interesting...

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov also made a point to say the U.N. arms embargo against Iran should be lifted as part of the nuclear deal. These well-timed statements likely caught Washington's eye but probably did little to impress. The S-300 threat mattered a lot more when the United States needed to maintain a credible military deterrent against Iran. If the United States and Iran reach an understanding that neutralizes that threat through political means, Russian talk of S-300s is mostly hot air.

given the history of iran-america relations, it is beyond my understanding why the author makes an assumption that iran is being transformed into another tool of the state dept...

 

[blackcat]

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I don't think anyone fully understands Putin's thinking and that is why many fear him. Of course Putin is also conscious of that and probably enjoys it !

i just stumbled on this...an interesting angle on the missile sale...
https://www.stratfor.com/weekly/russia- ... -iran-deal

the article's portal, stratfor, is sometimes called the cia's open-source brain-trust. what makes the following quote particularly curious is that the vlad move was preempted by the article written 6 days BEFORE the yesterday's announcement ! other analysis (about the pipeline diplomacy) are also interesting...

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov also made a point to say the U.N. arms embargo against Iran should be lifted as part of the nuclear deal. These well-timed statements likely caught Washington's eye but probably did little to impress. The S-300 threat mattered a lot more when the United States needed to maintain a credible military deterrent against Iran. If the United States and Iran reach an understanding that neutralizes that threat through political means, Russian talk of S-300s is mostly hot air.

given the history of iran-america relations, it is beyond my understanding why the author makes an assumption that iran is being transformed into another tool of the state dept...

how about his version. my thinking off the level.

re: Obama's red line on Syria
remember Putin helped out with Syria, saying they would supervise the destruction of their chemical weapons, when Obama was pressed on the home front to put boots on the ground (outside the special forces and CIA which would already be in operation in Syria, but joe puplic in the US dont know this, and had no tolerance for the marines or army boots on ground)..,

ok, thats my preface.

Well, Obama is pissed with Bibi's imtransigence, not the Iranians, Obama's biggest domestic pressure is from AIPAC and the GOP and house speaker john boehner, them holding the balance in the House of Reps. Cos the Israeli intelligence services, mossad etc, know the Persians are not pursuing the nuke, the last intelligence report in America in about 2009, or was it 2007, that combined all 7 intelligence agencies in america, gave the briefing (was to GW Bush, so must be 07), said that persians not pursuing nuke technology, the uranium enrichment for medical isotopes and for energy (~20% enrichment for the first, ~3% for second), is not the nuclear high grade 98% enrichment!

So, Putin is less in thrawl to the Israelis, and Vlad loves to spit in the face of the west too, so, could Putin be doing two birds one stone, telling Israel behave, stop BS'ing us with your hegomonic mid-east aspiration, when you know they are not pursuing nukes. And helping out Obama doing the dirty work on Bibi for him.

because this is back-channel stuff. in the public, in Pravda and NY Times and WaPo, it might be seen as Putin still fighting with Obama and West, and being intransigent. They will never use the term intransigent wrt Bibi. He gets the invite by Boehner. (ofcourse, that is the "public invite". the truth is, it will be worked out behind the scenes with AIPAC V.I.P's and guys high up in the GOP donor tier, like Sheldon Adelson, his people, speak to GOP House people, and Adelson speaks to consulate or embassy in DC to speak to Bibi's people, cos Bibi originally expressed his intent to speak to House cos he wanted the DOMESTIC COMMUNICATIONS back into Jerusalem and Tel Aviv but refracted thru the lens of the House and Capitol, cos he is in election mode. power, fear and scare campaigns on other side of Atlantic, for the jewish americans, and for the israelis at home.

anyway, Vlad could just be helping out Obama from a bind on Iran, and he knows that Israel parliament are all about pursuing their regional hegemony. ofcourse they are the regions Leviathan in the ME, they have no competition currently, near term, and even medium term.

It works for Obama and Vlad to be publicly bickering and at each others throat.

It DOES NOT work, for Obama to be seen as fighting with Netanyahu!

but wrt back channel often controverting the public refrain of WaPo or NYTimes. In Bibi and Obama, I am pretty sure, they have genuine bad blood.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Imagination is strong with this one.

 

[blackcat]

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Imagination is strong with this one.

was this a compliment on my acuity oncearunner?

 

[movingtarget]

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I don't think anyone fully understands Putin's thinking and that is why many fear him. Of course Putin is also conscious of that and probably enjoys it !

i just stumbled on this...an interesting angle on the missile sale...
https://www.stratfor.com/weekly/russia- ... -iran-deal

the article's portal, stratfor, is sometimes called the cia's open-source brain-trust. what makes the following quote particularly curious is that the vlad move was preempted by the article written 6 days BEFORE the yesterday's announcement ! other analysis (about the pipeline diplomacy) are also interesting...

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov also made a point to say the U.N. arms embargo against Iran should be lifted as part of the nuclear deal. These well-timed statements likely caught Washington's eye but probably did little to impress. The S-300 threat mattered a lot more when the United States needed to maintain a credible military deterrent against Iran. If the United States and Iran reach an understanding that neutralizes that threat through political means, Russian talk of S-300s is mostly hot air.

given the history of iran-america relations, it is beyond my understanding why the author makes an assumption that iran is being transformed into another tool of the state dept...

how about his version. my thinking off the level.

remember Putin helped out with Syria, saying they would supervise the destruction of their chemical weapons, when Obama was pressed on the home front to put boots on the ground (outside the special forces and CIA which would already be in operation in Syria, but joe puplic in the US dont know this, and had no tolerance for the marines or army boots on ground)..,

ok, thats my preface.

Well, Obama is pissed with Bibi's imtransigence, not the Iranians, Obama's biggest domestic pressure is from AIPAC and the GOP and house speaker john boehner, them holding the balance in the House of Reps. Cos the Israeli intelligence services, mossad etc, know the Persians are not pursuing the nuke, the last intelligence report in America in about 2009, or was it 2007, that combined all 7 intelligence agencies in america, gave the briefing (was to GW Bush, so must be 07), said that persians not pursuing nuke technology, the uranium enrichment for medical isotopes and for energy (~20% enrichment for the first, ~3% for second), is not the nuclear high grade 98% enrichment!

So, Putin is less in thrawl to the Israelis, and Vlad loves to spit in the face of the west too, so, could Putin be doing two birds one stone, telling Israel behave, stop BS'ing us with your hegomonic mid-east aspiration, when you know they are not pursuing nukes. And helping out Obama doing the dirty work on Bibi for him.

because this is back-channel stuff. in the public, in Pravda and NY Times and WaPo, it might be seen as Putin still fighting with Obama and West, and being intransigent. They will never use the term intransigent wrt Bibi. He gets the invite by Boehner. (ofcourse, that is the "public invite". the truth is, it will be worked out behind the scenes with AIPAC V.I.P's and guys high up in the GOP donor tier, like Sheldon Adelson, his people, speak to GOP House people, and Adelson speaks to consulate or embassy in DC to speak to Bibi's people, cos Bibi originally expressed his intent to speak to House cos he wanted the DOMESTIC COMMUNICATIONS back into Jerusalem and Tel Aviv but refracted thru the lens of the House and Capitol, cos he is in election mode. power, fear and scare campaigns on other side of Atlantic, for the jewish americans, and for the israelis at home.

anyway, Vlad could just be helping out Obama from a bind on Iran, and he knows that Israel parliament are all about pursuing their regional hegemony. ofcourse they are the regions Leviathan in the ME, they have no competition currently, near term, and even medium term.

It works for Obama and Vlad to be publicly bickering and at each others throat.

It DOES NOT work, for Obama to be seen as fighting with Netanyahu!

but wrt back channel often controverting the public refrain of WaPo or NYTimes. In Bibi and Obama, I am pretty sure, they have genuine bad blood.

I am sure that Obama was disappointed with the election result in Israel. It was expected to be very close. The sanctions on Russia complicate all of this but Russia was happy to side with the US on Iran. The US must know that Crimea won't be reversed so how long will they keep the sanctions in place ? I think they will forget about Crimea and just use the sanctions re the carve up of Ukraine which is sure to happen. Spoke to someone living in Ukraine and they seemed to think that Donetsk and Lugansk will definitely go and the rest of Ukraine does not care too much about it but Poroshenko is against an independent region it seems, he is willing to give them some independence but still as part of Ukraine. That could end up being unworkable and unrealistic. The person I spoke to also told me that gunfire is still heard sometimes. Ukraine seems to be in such turmoil that their chances of joining the EU any time soon look remote. The EU usually demands some stability before changes are made and there is no doubt that this is exactly what Putin wanted. Ukraine goes nowhere, their economy is a mess and people concentrate on living week to week instead of flag waving and protesting. Sooner or later gas will become an issue as well. I am sure Putin is making plenty of calculations on that subject re Europe and Ukraine.

 

[python]

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how about his version. my thinking off the level.

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So, Putin is less in thrawl to the Israelis, and Vlad loves to spit in the face of the west too, so, could Putin be doing two birds one stone, telling Israel behave, stop BS'ing us with your hegomonic mid-east aspiration, when you know they are not pursuing nukes. And helping out Obama doing the dirty work on Bibi for him.

you are onto something here. at least, your idea of the vlad calc towards obama i think is more than plausible. almost the same line is expressed by this aljazeera article (i consider aljazeera almost neutral on ukraine)
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinio ... 02212.html
iow, the article posits that both obama and vlad are barking in public so intensely b/c in reality they have found several avenues to cooperate off the spot light (the yesterday un sec. council russian non-veto being the latest example).

even the israeli displeasure of the missile sale seems staged...yesterday, the usually well informed israeli haaretz, citing an insider, reported that vlad called bibi beforehand...

looks like spook games all around - all perhaps at the expense of the iranians.

but yesterday i found another interesting analysis of the missile sale. in the conservative the national interest the author writes that the sale is also a stern signal to everyone in the us - if they attempt to scuttle the latest agreement with iran, vlad will take the iran side directly next time.

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/rus ... enge-12635

 

[blackcat]

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how about his version. my thinking off the level.

.................

So, Putin is less in thrawl to the Israelis, and Vlad loves to spit in the face of the west too, so, could Putin be doing two birds one stone, telling Israel behave, stop BS'ing us with your hegomonic mid-east aspiration, when you know they are not pursuing nukes. And helping out Obama doing the dirty work on Bibi for him.

you are onto something here. at least, your idea of the vlad calc towards obama i think is more than plausible. almost the same line is expressed by this aljazeera article (i consider aljazeera almost neutral on ukraine)
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinio ... 02212.html
iow, the article posits that both obama and vlad are barking in public so intensely b/c in reality they have found several avenues to cooperate off the spot light (the yesterday un sec. council russian non-veto being the latest example).

even the israeli displeasure of the missile sale seems staged...yesterday, the usually well informed israeli haaretz, citing an insider, reported that vlad called bibi beforehand...

looks like spook games all around - all perhaps at the expense of the iranians.

but yesterday i found another interesting analysis of the missile sale. in the conservative the national interest the author writes that the sale is also a stern signal to everyone in the us - if they attempt to scuttle the latest agreement with iran, vlad will take the iran side directly next time.

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/rus ... enge-12635

some of the back channel diplomacy, may be less susceptible (IS, prolly is less susceptible, must be less susceptible), less susceptible to the outside interests lobbying and shadow gov't and influences and effective blackmail by one-issue voters. guys like Adelson, because the Likud party of Netanyahu, has effectively got the US jewish Israel vote, the vote that is the Israeli lobbying vote, they have got the AIPAC and American lobbying vote by the balls. even tho the jewish americans are the most liberal, the pro-israeli section, this diaspora class, are in the thrawl to Bibi and vote Likud, even if they dont vote. So Adelson throws big money at GOP, at AIPAC, and for Likud back in Jerusalem.

without going thru the formal diplomatic channels and keeping WaPo and Times informed, and the DC political insider class informed, it is less likley that you get William Kristol and Adelson and others manipulating policy. The think tanks dont get a look in, well, atleast as much voice as they contributed otherwise.

 

[blutto]

....a major problem with the Western understanding of the Ukrainian crisis and methinks one of, if not the biggest ...

"What galls me the most, there’s no significant opposition in the United States to this new Cold War, whereas in the past there was always an opposition. Even in the White House you could find a presidential aide who had a different opinion, certainly in the State Department, certainly in the Congress. The media were open—the New York Times, the Washington Post—to debate. They no longer are. It’s one hand clapping in our major newspapers and in our broadcast networks. So that’s where we are."

"The New York Times “basically rewrites whatever the Kiev authorities say”: Stephen F. Cohen on the U.S./Russia/Ukraine history the media won’t tell you "

...from.. http://www.salon.com/2015/04/16/the_new ... _tell_you/

Cheers

 

[blackcat]

Cohen has popped up on DemocracyNow a few times and been interviewed by Amy Goodman. Probably gives a closer insight than any pundit you could find.

 

[python]

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Cohen has popped up on DemocracyNow a few times and been interviewed by Amy Goodman. Probably gives a closer insight than any pundit you could find.

there are too many political analysts named 'cohen'. i used to confuse them with stephen until i saw his interview in 2008...some place upthread, i think, i mentioned it...i was impressed by his logical mindset and the ability to tie together historical events. if he did not become a history professor, i bet he'd be an excellent scientist or mathematician...

there is another quality i sensed in him (you, cat are a better psychologist) - basic decency that shines thru his words...something rare in a political commentator.

 

[blackcat]

....a major problem with the Western understanding of the Ukrainian crisis and methinks one of, if not the biggest ...

"What galls me the most, there’s no significant opposition in the United States to this new Cold War, whereas in the past there was always an opposition. Even in the White House you could find a presidential aide who had a different opinion, certainly in the State Department, certainly in the Congress. The media were open—the New York Times, the Washington Post—to debate. They no longer are. It’s one hand clapping in our major newspapers and in our broadcast networks. So that’s where we are."

"The New York Times “basically rewrites whatever the Kiev authorities say”: Stephen F. Cohen on the U.S./Russia/Ukraine history the media won’t tell you "

...from.. http://www.salon.com/2015/04/16/the_new ... _tell_you/

Cheers

it is an manifest explication of bureaucracy and government.

when the government reaches a certain size, and has myriad of agencies and influences - cia/pentagon/thinktanks/k-street&business sector/defense industry/academy(confluence thinktanks <Hopkins,Stanford,Harvard,MIT>)/NSA/FBI

you can't possibly have a coherent strategy, when you have to juggle operations that are in process and underway, when these are multi-year long policies, and then an alternative bureau within the bureaucracy comes in over the top with some ephemeral hair-brained operation that runs counter to policies on the ground in operation from the alternative bureaus. then you have Abraham Maslow's hammer/law of instrument. you have your 10lb hammer, or one tonne hammer, everything becomes a nail because you gotta use your hammer. Standing army gotta fight.

two takeaways, incoherent strategy because of size of bureaucracy and competing bureaus and own agendas. And standing army (maslow's hammer). the pentagon.

 

[blutto]

...find below an interesting article of how government borrowing changed in the 70's....and consequently where a great deal of current government debt comes from....

"“Once a nation parts with the control of its currency and credit, it matters not who makes the nation’s laws. Usury, once in control, will wreck any nation.”

—William Lyon Mackenzie King, Prime Minister of Canada, 1935"

...and...

"The result, according to economist Ellen Brown: “By 2012, the government had paid C$1 trillion in interest—twice its national debt. Interest on the debt is now the government’s single largest budget expenditure—larger than health care, senior entitlements or national defense.” In the early 1990s, at the height of the media’s deficit hysteria and rhetorical nonsense about hitting a “debt wall,” 91% of the $423 billion debt was due to interest charges. Our real debt – revenue minus expenditures – was just $37 billion."

....and...

"But after nearly forty years of this incredibly productive use of publicly-created credit, unprecedented economic growth and increasing income equality, international finance got its chance to launch the free market counter-revolution against democratic governance. Stagflation –simultaneous stagnation, unemployment and inflation – was one of the first launching pads for Milton Friedman’s radical free market ideas: putting the creation of credit into private hands and creating debt burdens which would restrict the potential for democratic governance.

Freidman argued that stagflation was the direct result of irresponsible governments issuing too much money or borrowing recklessly from their central banks and sparking inflation. His radical free market ideology was shared by the Bank for International Settlements (the bank of central bankers) and in 1974 it established a new committee, the Basel Committee, to establish global monetary and financial stability."

....from.. http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/04/20/can-the-courts-liberate-the-bank-of-canada/

....oddly enough Iceland, that little nation that actually did something to deal with the crash of 2007/8 and have thrown the perpetrators of that crash, the bankers in jail, is now on a path to change its system back to something more akin to the pre-70's model....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11507810/Iceland-looks-at-ending-boom-and-bust-with-radical-money-plan.html

Cheers

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

News from the islamic intruders called "refugees"...
I guess ya all heard about Australia closing the gap. Hats up. Love that country more and more.
Kenya, even beautful Kenya knows what time it is. After the latest terror attack in Garissa, they are about to close the "refugee" camp.
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/kenia-dadaab-101.html ... too bad they are a little late. The islamic intruders took over the beautiful coast long time ago.
And here is the "hit" that annoys me most:
While the idiotic braindead fake lefties welcome the "refugees" to our European countries (thus us true Europeans with a right mind have no chance to defend ourselves against this insanity), rich arabic oil-countries deny "refugees" entrance in their islamic countries right around the corner. It is absurd. I would laugh if it wasn´t so sad, that Europe destroys itself. And the day the fake lefties wake up too, it´s too late...
http://www.aargauerzeitung.ch/ausland/oelstaaten-wollen-keine-fluechtlinge-aufnehmen-weil-sie-instabilitaet-fuerchten-128632321

 

[ferryman]

I'll stir things up by starting a discussion on the UK General Election. 50/50 it seems in the polls with 3 weeks or so to go. Tory/Labour. SNP aren't palatable bed fellows for Labour but they will have to do a deal if they want power...No coallition obviously but how far will they bow down to Wee Nic for it...

 

[Semper Fidelis]

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News from the islamic intruders called "refugees"...
I guess ya all heard about Australia closing the gap. Hats up. Love that country more and more.
Kenya, even beautful Kenya knows what time it is. After the latest terror attack in Garissa, they are about to close the "refugee" camp.
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/kenia-dadaab-101.html ... too bad they are a little late. The islamic intruders took over the beautiful coast long time ago.
And here is the "hit" that annoys me most:
While the idiotic braindead fake lefties welcome the "refugees" to our European countries (thus us true Europeans with a right mind have no chance to defend ourselves against this insanity), rich arabic oil-countries deny "refugees" entrance in their islamic countries right around the corner. It is absurd. I would laugh if it wasn´t so sad, that Europe destroys itself. And the day the fake lefties wake up too, it´s too late...
http://www.aargauerzeitung.ch/ausland/oelstaaten-wollen-keine-fluechtlinge-aufnehmen-weil-sie-instabilitaet-fuerchten-128632321

my gut tells me that you will get some negative reaction to the auzzie notes on immigration.

If Russia and Syria was doing what they said they would do then the Syrian's would be just fine.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

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I'll stir things up by starting a discussion on the UK General Election. 50/50 it seems in the polls with 3 weeks or so to go. Tory/Labour. SNP aren't palatable bed fellows for Labour but they will have to do a deal if they want power...No coallition obviously but how far will they bow down to Wee Nic for it...

So sorry to you guys there in the UK. The bulldog is gone and will it ever come back?

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

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my gut tells me that you will get some negative reaction to the auzzie notes on immigration.
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Not only about that, but my whole post... Nothing less than Amster & co calling me again racist, xenophobic, and what else...
But that doesn´t change the fact that Australia does it the right way. If the islamic* "refugees" are not even welcomed by their islamic neighbours, why shall people with common sense from Europe welcome these criminals, thieves, rapists, terrorists & misogynists, that suck our taxpayers money?
"Funny" side note: Never ever met a welcome-all-fake-lefty that took one of the "refugees" in their homes. Pure hypocrites that destroy our societies intentionally. They are natives haters. Even lower than the "refugees"...

* Did you ever realize that the so-called refugees that travel on the ships to Europe are always young men in best shape, who have the money to pay 3.000 $ for the trip, while true refugees (like raped women & battered kids who don´t make it further than the next cities camp) have to stay home? The new age fake lefties don´t see those facts in their political corrected infatuation.

 

[blackcat]

australians are cnuts, take it from me, rolled gold pudendum, asked Oncearunner, he has a phd in pussy

 

[Amsterhammer]

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my gut tells me that you will get some negative reaction to the auzzie notes on immigration.
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Not only about that, but my whole post... Nothing less than Amster & co calling me again racist, xenophobic, and what else...
But that doesn´t change the fact that Australia does it the right way. If the islamic* "refugees" are not even welcomed by their islamic neighbours, why shall people with common sense from Europe welcome these criminals, thieves, rapists, terrorists & misogynists, that suck our taxpayers money?
"Funny" side note: Never ever met a welcome-all-fake-lefty that took one of the "refugees" in their homes. Pure hypocrites that destroy our societies intentionally. They are natives haters. Even lower than the "refugees"...

* Did you ever realize that the so-called refugees that travel on the ships to Europe are always young men in best shape, who have the money to pay 3.000 $ for the trip, while true refugees (like raped women & battered kids who don´t make it further than the next cities camp) have to stay home? The new age fake lefties don´t see those facts in their political corrected infatuation.

Yes, all that and worse. Go play on 'stormfront' or on some other fascist, white supremacist page with your like minded far right goons. Your views are grossly offensive to any rational folks. I am severely biting my lip here so as to avoid a ban.

Stick to NFL, that's all you're good for. Bah.

 

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I'll stir things up by starting a discussion on the UK General Election. 50/50 it seems in the polls with 3 weeks or so to go. Tory/Labour. SNP aren't palatable bed fellows for Labour but they will have to do a deal if they want power...No coallition obviously but how far will they bow down to Wee Nic for it...

I'll stir things up a bit more by suggesting that the UK finally needs to sh!t, or get off the pot, as far as being committed to the EU is concerned.

Despite what Milliband has said publicly, I think he will deal with the SNP if their support enables Labour to take power again. The Tories are sh!t scared of the SNP, even going so far as to advise their supporters in marginal Scottish seats to vote Labour in order to prevent the SNP from taking the seat!

 

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Vladimir Putin authorises delivery of missile system to Iran
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/13/vladimir-putin-authorises-delivery-of-missile-system-to-iran

this is a very significant geopolitical development that would predictably raise anger in the us and israel. as we learned today, it sure did...

why did vlad decide to troll the us and israel NOW while himself being under the west's sanctions ?

to remind the contextual history... russia had concluded a deal with iran in 2007 according to which they obliged to supply one billion $$ worth of the most advanced surface-to-air s-300 missiles. most pundits commented at the time that if delivered, the missiles would essentially preclude ANY attack on the iranian nuclear sites. later, when the us and israel went berserk over the contract and put pressure, russia scrapped the contract. iran got pyssed and sued them for $4 billion.

this russian decision logic i don't understand...why now ? why so blatantly in the us face when both the us and the eu announced they will lift ANY sanction on iran only AFTER the new nuclear agreement with iran proves real ?

the only rational explanation for the in-your-face move i can see is - the 2 states currently under the west's sanctions decided to cooperate to reduce the sanctions effect and saying 'eff you, west'...?

perhaps the new development was also designed to send a message that the iran-russia common position in yemen and syria is going from now on receive an increasingly aggressive response if the west continued to support the saudi military escalation...this crap is too confusing

This missile system is entirely defensive, and was ordered before the last round of sanctions were instituted in 2007. If this prevents US or Israeli air strikes on Iran, then I say it's a good thing.

 

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Yes, all that and worse. Go play on 'stormfront' or on some other fascist, white supremacist page with your like minded far right goons. Your views are grossly offensive to any rational folks. I am severely biting my lip here so as to avoid a ban.

Yo lol. Saw it coming... Serious, everything I wrote has got nothing to do with "Stormfront", "white supremacist", or else slaps you try to make below waist line... Go back to school to improve your reading skills. That is all advice I can give.

All I did was (as usual) linking hard facts. And, also as usual, you counter with insults. Why? Because you have no arguments, thus playing the same old dumb game of calling those who don´t follow the ideologies of the blinded fake lefties as fascists.
If I take your thinking 100% serious, you also mean to call whole Australia as fascist, because they don´t follow your line.
Wow! The last guy I remember to insult a whole country was Lance Armstrong. You made it, going as low as him. Congrats.