Worlds Copenhagen 2011

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Enviromental?

I would have thought the cost alone would make it a no go.

No, the cost will be backed up by the many investors. Government has nothing to do with it so money would not be the issue.

 

[Descender]

is it a joke?

No, it's been officially annou... oh wait. Yes, it is.

 

[roundabout]

So of all the things that can be invested into people pick a huge pile of earth. No wonder the economy isn't what it was.

 

[TeoSheva]

No, it's been officially annou... oh wait. Yes, it is.

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=43205

is it really a joke?

 

[Ferminal]

Belgian team needs more Devenyns.

 

[dlwssonic]

What the heck, Freire shouldn't be the leader. He is old and over rated. Rojas deserves it more.

 

[LaFleur]

I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but Estonian squad:

Road race: Tanel Kangert, Mart Ojavee, Rene Mandri
Time Trial: (somebody from the previous three, probably Kangert)

Our great hopes, however, are in the junior race. I'm sure that they will light up the race. But if they don't, we have a 2 very good sprinters in the squad aswell.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

Dutch selection

Road race: Gesink, Boom, Mollema, Tjallingii, Weening, Ligthart, Poels, Hoogerland, Terpstra

How did Koen De Kort not get in ahead of some of those ?

 

[theyoungest]

How did Koen De Kort not get in ahead of some of those ?

Because he's crap? Last year he was included because of his knowledge of the course

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Because he's crap? Last year he was included because of his knowledge of the course

On this course, De Kort is worth more than Gesink, Mollema, Weening or Poels to be honoust.

On light rolling/hilly courses he is simply better.

 

[hrotha]

On this course, De Kort is worth more than Gesink, Mollema, Weening or Poels to be honoust.

On light rolling/hilly courses he is simply better.

Yeah, as much as I like those four, I'd only have selected Gesink and, if anything, Poels. Weening I suppose might be alright as a domestique on this course, but there are guys who could do better.

 

[taiwan]

So Slovakia have a quota of 3. Peters Sagan and Velits, who else? I had a glance at the list of Slovakian riders on CQ, and recognised hardly any.

Link to list of team allocations.

Martin Velits, I guess.

 

[DirtyWorks]

What the heck, Freire shouldn't be the leader. He is old and over rated. Rojas deserves it more.

I don't know about that. Three time winner of both World's and Milan San Remo. Apparently not much happened in 2011. 2010 the guy was excellent.


World's used to have unlikely winners because the leaders would mark each other and since there were no race radios, the pace-to-finish calculations didn't work out right and low probability winners got away. Not hijacking the thread, but race radios is why the racing is so predictable now.


It would be good if Boom could steal the show. The course seems suited to his style. He needs to save his attacks for the end though.

 

[taiwan]

Yeah I agree, I think monument winners are riders of quality full stop. Even when they are having poor seasons, they can still find something for the most important races.

e.g. Freire winning MSR last year. Pozzato seems universally despised, but he was still 4th at the Worlds and 5th at MSR because he has class.

Riders of that stature need the benefit of the doubt.

If Pozzato's been excluded from the Azzuri because his head's really not right - fair enough, but otherwise I would have prefer that Tchmil's treament didn't have any effect outside of the russian team.

 

[theyoungest]

On this course, De Kort is worth more than Gesink, Mollema, Weening or Poels to be honoust.

On light rolling/hilly courses he is simply better.

Uhh... could you give me any results that would suggest this? And certainly in a 260+ km race? Sure, Mollema or Gesink aren't specialists for a course like this, but are they necessarily worse than De Kort?

 

[Damiano]

Uhh... could you give me any results that would suggest this? And certainly in a 260+ km race? Sure, Mollema or Gesink aren't specialists for a course like this, but are they necessarily worse than De Kort?

This years Vuelta a España for instance? He did quite good there.

 

[l.Harm]

On this course, De Kort is worth more than Gesink, Mollema, Weening or Poels to be honoust.

On light rolling/hilly courses he is simply better.

What about Van Hummel/Veelers. They at least have a shot at the end.

 

[CasperVg]

What about Van Hummel/Veelers. They at least have a shot at the end.

Yeah, Veelers showed good form in the Vuelta by winning the Lanterne Rouge

 

[l.Harm]

Yeah he really failed as pure climber.

 

[Spine Concept]

I'm not really a Boom fan either (I get the idea that Boom fans are actually quite scarce?) but having seen him in Roubaix I certainly think that he could eventually play a role.

But contrary to you I have no faith in Ligthart, who could barely outsprint Bram Tankink in the Nationals If Mollema didn't get cramped up I think he would have beaten Pim.

I highly doubt Mollema could beat Ligthart in a head-to-head sprint. I'm not one to speculate or start an endless debate about what could have happened had Mollema not cramped up at the nationals. To be fair though, Mollema is pretty fast for a mountain goat. I'm not a Ligthart fanboy or anything but he would be considered the fastest out of the Dutch selection hence my choice. If Boom and Ligthart were in the winning break than the former would be more likely to lead out the latter right?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Uhh... could you give me any results that would suggest this? And certainly in a 260+ km race? Sure, Mollema or Gesink aren't specialists for a course like this, but are they necessarily worse than De Kort?

cqranking.com is your friend.

tour de wallonie was good one for instance

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I highly doubt Mollema could beat Ligthart in a head-to-head sprint. I'm not one to speculate or start an endless debate about what could have happened had Mollema not cramped up at the nationals. To be fair though, Mollema is pretty fast for a mountain goat. I'm not a Ligthart fanboy or anything but he would be considered the fastest out of the Dutch selection hence my choice. If Boom and Ligthart were in the winning break than the former would be more likely to lead out the latter right?

I don't know. Boom is pretty fast when he wants to be. Especially if the sprint starts rather late. Boom has a superb acceleration, but probably lacks in top speed compared to a real sprinter

 

[analo69]

In depth analysis of the route. English guide is placed on the middle of the page.

http://danskebjerge.dk/

 

[greenedge]

Kevin De Weert, Philippe Gilbert, Olivier Kaisen, Björn Leukemans, Klaas Lodewyck, Nick Nuyens, Jurgen Roelandts, Greg Van Avermaet, Johan Vansummeren (reserves: Jan Bakelants, Thomas De Gendt, Nikolas Maes, Jurgen Van de Walle, Sep Vanmarcke)

Belgium have a strong team. I just hope if it comes to a sprint GVA/ Roelandts could do something. Germany have a very strong team, the only problem is who will lead out Griepel. Wagner could but ideally you would want Ciolek, Kittel, Wagner then Degenkolb leading out Greipel. Degenkolb for the hills is a good safe bet and he does a lot of lead outs at HTC.

For Australia i am surprised by the fact we have no Cameron Meyer in the ITT and also Leigh Howard in the RR. I have no idea who i would replace for him but Leigh could probably up the pace a notch before the end or even be the last lead out man for Goss. The fact he is at HTC and works with Goss would have helped as well.

I think Spain have a strongish team. Flecha will be a good road captain and Rojas is a good alternative for the sprint. The problem is does Oscar have the legs after abandoning the Vuelta and who can lead him out to the standard of other countries.

The Dutch team can hopefully be attacking and maybe set up Lithgart in a late race break.

 

[Spine Concept]

I don't know. Boom is pretty fast when he wants to be. Especially if the sprint starts rather late. Boom has a superb acceleration, but probably lacks in top speed compared to a real sprinter

I haven't seen proper sprinting from Boom in a long time though that might be just me. Ligthart has been more prominent in that regard which means that he gets the lead out for me in such a scenario.