Worlds Copenhagen 2011

[RedheadDane]

Well as long as it isnt Hushovd or Hagen I will be happy, but I think one of those 2 could very well win it. There will be a lot of Norwegians in Denmark to cheer them on for sure.

Damn right you are. We can't let those pesky Norwegians win everything!
And I guess you're right about the Norwegian invasion...

I hope for Rain, wind and Cold with high average KM/H

Well I don't hope for that sort of weather. I don't wanna freeze! I'm such a luxury-person...

 

[El Pistolero]

Damn right you are. We can't let those pesky Norwegians win everything!
And I guess you're right about the Norwegian invasion...



Well I don't hope for that sort of weather. I don't wanna freeze! I'm such a luxury-person...

I want thunderstorms!

Now that would be pretty cool, a cycling race in thunder.

 

[theyoungest]

Well as long as it isnt Hushovd or Hagen I will be happy, but I think one of those 2 could very well win it. There will be a lot of Norwegians in Denmark to cheer them on for sure.

Neither of them appears to be in great form though.

 

[RedheadDane]

I want thunderstorms!

Now that would be pretty cool, a cycling race in thunder.

Yeah... I think it would be cool too. If I was indoor, watching it on the telly. Not outdoor...
And of course rider safety comes first.

 

[Swabian Lass]

meh - I like the blonde!!!

it would be nice for him to have a selection to choose from - Belgian National Champ / Rainbow / Belgian Time Trial Champ .... then add pink/yellow/red and various spots and sprinters colours

No sorry, it's not that I don't want him to win, I love watching him. It's just that with his fashion sense he's wear a jersey including all of them at once. With fluorescent lime green.

 

[AussieGoddess]

No sorry, it's not that I don't want him to win, I love watching him. It's just that with his fashion sense he's wear a jersey including all of them at once. With fluorescent lime green.

LOL

I have to admit the gold suit was pretty atrocious.

Still - he will look good in rainbows

 

[El Pistolero]

Yeah... I think it would be cool too. If I was indoor, watching it on the telly. Not outdoor...
And of course rider safety comes first.

I think you have more chance of getting hit by a car on a training ride than by lightning though

 

[RedheadDane]

LOL

I have to admit the gold suit was pretty atrocious.

Still - he will look good in rainbows

The whatforasuit?

I think you have more chance of getting hit by a car on a training ride than by lightning though

Guess you're right.

 

[greenedge]

I am going to predict big winds. I think the bunch could split into an elite group and then like last year regather for the end. The group could even be smaller than in Geelong.

France have named a solid squad.

Australia's under 23 Team is good. Hepburn and Durbridge have proved themselves in the ITT and Australia could have Hepburn, Palmer or Dennis win the RR.

 

[AussieGoddess]

The whatforasuit?

his taste is somewhat questionable - wedding photo

 

[richo36]

So from the teams announced so far how is each team looking to ride?
i might be wrong but looks like this to me like:

Brits- Hoping for a big bunch sprint for cavandish, so obvously hoping the pace would be slower throughout the race.

Belguims-Riding for phil. So i think they are going to want to push the pace. The smaller the lead group the better for phil (more to the point, get rid of the pure sprinters).

Germans- Big bunch sprint for Greipel. But i think they would want to push the pace to attempt to drop cav or at least make him tired.

Italians- Im really not sure what the italian strategy is. I dont think they have anyone who is good enough to win from a big bunch but also noone from a small group sprint. Can someone help me??

Aussies- I think we will want to set a fast pace and get goss into a small select group at the finish. Which i think is pretty clear with them not including Renshaw.

Norway- Well with such small numbers i think its a sit and hope that other teams push the pace.

France- Breakaway hahaha, Can chavanel resist not going in a break?

USA- Havent seen the US team.

Swiss- Same as norway except fabian might be tired from the TT.

Spain-havent seen the team either.


So in summary i think australia and belguim from the start will want to push the pace. With germany maybe sending up 2 riders to help with the pace making but will not want to do to much as they will want there sprint train at the end. Brits will protect cav. So the question is assuming im right with my analysis, Do australia and belguim have powerful enough teams to reduce the field to small group or will they waste all there energy trying?

 

[AussieGoddess]

So from the teams announced so far how is each team looking to ride?
i might be wrong but looks like this to me like:

Brits- Hoping for a big bunch sprint for cavandish, so obvously hoping the pace would be slower throughout the race.

Belguims-Riding for phil. So i think they are going to want to push the pace. The smaller the lead group the better for phil (more to the point, get rid of the pure sprinters).

Germans- Big bunch sprint for Greipel. But i think they would want to push the pace to attempt to drop cav or at least make him tired.

Italians- Im really not sure what the italian strategy is. I dont think they have anyone who is good enough to win from a big bunch but also noone from a small group sprint. Can someone help me??

Aussies- I think we will want to set a fast pace and get goss into a small select group at the finish. Which i think is pretty clear with them not including Renshaw.

Norway- Well with such small numbers i think its a sit and hope that other teams push the pace.

France- Breakaway hahaha, Can chavanel resist not going in a break?

USA- Havent seen the US team.

Swiss- Same as norway except fabian might be tired from the TT.

Spain-havent seen the team either.


So in summary i think australia and belguim from the start will want to push the pace. With germany maybe sending up 2 riders to help with the pace making but will not want to do to much as they will want there sprint train at the end. Brits will protect cav. So the question is assuming im right with my analysis, Do australia and belguim have powerful enough teams to reduce the field to small group or will they waste all there energy trying?

the answer to your question is - yes I think so.

The 3 strongest teams (Aus, Belgium and Germany) would all prefer a pretty tough race .... so I dont actually think we will have a big bunch at the end.

I do think the likes of Thor, Cancellara and maybe Sagan if he can last the distance will be around about the place towards the end though, so wont be a cakewalk for anyone.

The US team will be interesting ...

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I am going to predict big winds. I think the bunch could split into an elite group and then like last year regather for the end. The group could even be smaller than in Geelong.

France have named a solid squad.

Australia's under 23 Team is good. Hepburn and Durbridge have proved themselves in the ITT and Australia could have Hepburn, Palmer or Dennis win the RR.

how are thbere supposed to be winds when it's in downtown copenhagen?

 

[richo36]

the answer to your question is - yes I think so.

The 3 strongest teams (Aus, Belgium and Germany) would all prefer a pretty tough race .... so I dont actually think we will have a big bunch at the end.

I do think the likes of Thor, Cancellara and maybe Sagan if he can last the distance will be around about the place towards the end though, so wont be a cakewalk for anyone.

The US team will be interesting ...

In my opinion the 3 favourites for this race are phil, thor and cancellara(but riding the TT will probaly disadvatage him). But this totally depends on it not being a big bunch finish

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

to me favorite is sagan.

also does anyone have a complete startlist or somewhat of the mens elite itt?

 

[Andy99]

Boom on Cavendish today..

'Boom leads Mark Cavendish (HTC-Highroad) by just three seconds. He thinks the Briton is on form for the approaching world championships.

“I think he’s in good shape. He looks skinny,” Boom said.'

 

[theyoungest]

how are thbere supposed to be winds when it's in downtown copenhagen?

Because it's not in downtown Copenhagen?

 

[RedheadDane]

his taste is somewhat questionable - wedding photo

Okay... I see what you mean!

 

[analo69]

how are thbere supposed to be winds when it's in downtown copenhagen?

The road race is not downtown Copenhagen. Only the TTs are downtown. The road race circuit is 15-20 km north of Copenhagen in a suburban area with some forests, fields and lakes. There is however not going to be much wind on the route. Most roads are with houses on both sides and a lot of wind shadow.

In depth analysis of the route here: danskebjerge.dk

A lot of people seem to forget that the route is not 266 km. But 266 km plus an additional 28 km ride from downtown Copenhagen to the circuit where the race is not neutralized. So in total 298 km just like the Milan San Remo. And 300 km at the end of the season will ensure a very selective group at the end.

 

[kanari]

how are thbere supposed to be winds when it's in downtown copenhagen?

Have you ever been to Copenhagen? Can be windy as hell. Besides it's not exactly downtown, more outside in the suburbs.

 

[Descender]

The road race is not downtown Copenhagen. Only the TTs are downtown. The road race circuit is 15-20 km north of Copenhagen in a suburban area with some forests, fields and lakes. There is however not going to be much wind on the route. Most roads are with houses on both sides and a lot of wind shadow.

In depth analysis of the route here: danskebjerge.dk

A lot of people seem to forget that the route is not 266 km. But 266 km plus an additional 28 km ride from downtown Copenhagen to the circuit where the race is not neutralized. So in total 298 km just like the Milan San Remo. And 300 km at the end of the season will ensure a very selective group at the end.

According to the official website it's 18 laps of a 14-km-long circuit plus the early 28kms run-in. A total of 280kms.

 

[Tuarts]

I am going to predict big winds. I think the bunch could split into an elite group and then like last year regather for the end. The group could even be smaller than in Geelong.

France have named a solid squad.

Australia's under 23 Team is good. Hepburn and Durbridge have proved themselves in the ITT and Australia could have Hepburn, Palmer or Dennis win the RR.

The guy who did the guide and in depth look to the course and profile said that the wind comes from the SE and the buildings + forest mean that there is minimal wind and as he's ridden the course, I think I'll believe him.

EDIT: pre-empted by analo

 

[Cimber]

how are thbere supposed to be winds when it's in downtown copenhagen?

I live in Copenhagen and it can be quite a windy city. And while the building can protect you from the wind sometimes the wind/air gets pressured down alleys and streets resulting in the sudden but but very strong winds. That said the Road race will take place north of Copenhagen in the subs where the wind can be a factor despite the fact that its still populated area. And the see istnt that far away. Tbh there isnt really anywhere in Denmark where u can be safe from the wind. But lets see the weatherforecast before discussing it more. Might not even be a subject then (0:

The guy who did the guide and in depth look to the course and profile said that the wind comes from the SE and the buildings + forest mean that there is minimal wind and as he's ridden the course, I think I'll believe him.

EDIT: pre-empted by analo

There isnt really any general wind direction in Denmark (well maybe wind from the west is most commen - and also results in the worst weather). In my younger days I trained alot of the roads of the circuit and wind can definately be a factor, as it can be anywhere in the country. But u guys are right, that it isnt the worst place in Denmark regarding wind exposure.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

A lot of people seem to forget that the route is not 266 km. But 266 km plus an additional 28 km ride from downtown Copenhagen to the circuit where the race is not neutralized. So in total 298 km just like the Milan San Remo. And 300 km at the end of the season will ensure a very selective group at the end.

Goss for the win, then?

Honestly, I don't think the length will change much in terms of the selections. While it is a factor, the modern peloton is too deep and too developed to let any single rider suffer more than the rest. I didn't explain that well, but while there are few 300km races, it doesn't take a special kind of character to win them. I hope I wrote what I meant

But, now that I think about it, it does give the racers a bigger window of time for things to go wrong: splits, flats, and so on

 

[Puzzilan]

Apart from the wind what's the weather usually like in September in Copenhagen? I'm guessing it's a bit like Scotland. I need to know what to pack