As we've seen with Armstrong, some people don't have the same moraol compass. The things you mention don't bother everyone to the same degree.maltiv said:Money doesn't buy you happiness, particularly not when it comes with a bad conscience and a constant fear of getting caught. I'm absolutely convinced that the dopers in the peloton aren't happy with their lives at all, even though it's easy to think so as they have money, fame and probably a hot wife.
A lot of the guys who are caught have 6-figure bank accounts (just hope they didn't deposit it in Cyprus). Just because you got caught doesn't mean it wasn't worth it to dope.maltiv said:I find it very disturbing to see that several people who traditionally criticize dopers on the clinic, still say they'd do it themselves.
Fortunately, I don't believe you. You would be too scared. Looking at the top 10 in TDF from 2007 and before, almost everyone has been caught eventually, whether it be from a positive test, a doping raid or another person's admission.
You have to be either extremely ignorant or very risk-loving to make such a decision with the empirical evidence at hand.
You might as well become a thief or a bank-robber with that attitude.Lanark said:A lot of the guys who are caught have 6-figure bank accounts (just hope they didn't deposit it in Cyprus). Just because you got caught doesn't mean it wasn't worth it to dope.
You forgot one group. The people who've no clue how?Don't be late Pedro said:Perhaps a bad analogy but I think of doping at that time is much like using bit torrent to download films, music, etc...
Most people who use it don't even question it because everyone is using it.
A few people won't use it because they are scared of getting caught.
A tiny amount won't use it on principle.
Now whether you download the odd TV show to keep up with your peers or download everything in sight just because you can is another matter.
But what if you could get a friend who is much more knowledgable about these things. He could setup everything, even try to convince you that there is nothing really wrong. You can just click a button. All so easyRedheadDane said:You forgot one group. The people who've no clue how?
In my first scenario in my previous post one of the reasons I'm almost completely sure I'd stay clear is that I simply wouldn't know how to get my hands on any banned products. If I had to go out and look for them myself... it would be easier to just leave it.
It's also interesting that Dr. Ashenden, in the wake of Hamilton, Landis, and others, had gradually come to understand doping from the bike racer's point of view. "Before, I saw them as weak people, bad people," he said. "Now I see that they're put in an impossible situation. If I had been put in their situation, I would do what they did."
Don't fret Bro... You could always have got an extra pair of legs and an extra heart. Plenty for your high crit to work with, mr 80%!BroDeal said:I would have taken all the gear I could lay my hands on. Ricco would look like a teetotaler compared to me. Rationally it makes sense to dope. The reward is high. The risks are low.
Unfortunately I have a high natural hematocrit, so the best stuff would not have helped me as much as others. There is always artificial hemoglobin...