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Sprocket01 said:
I'm not the one who made a big deal about it in the first place. Aren't I allowed to correct the record when called a *** for saying something that is actually true?

Ah, you people.

BTW...I edited my post....I am one of those people, I guess. Could be worse.
 

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The sound of one hand autographing.

Lance does not belong on that list

He transcends that list

Ok, maybe two lists...one Lance, the second everyone else

Seriously, does any rider on that hokey list consider themselves better than Lance
Seriously? I sincerely doubt it.

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Also, we all know the answer/punchline was "You want a rider?"
But does anyone know what the question/joke was??
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Also, we all know the answer/punchline was "You want a rider?"
But does anyone know what the question/joke was??
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i dont think he was referring to a rider in the cycling sense anyway.. he was talking to baby schleck who was demanding bottled water, fruit, and hand made belgian chocolates in his room...

(the groupies and muso's will know what im talking about)
 
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and once again the hog starts a thread that descents into complete and utter bogcogs

night folks
 

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Sprocket01 said:
But it was four years. 2005 to 2006 = 1 year. 2006 to 2007 = 2 years. 2007 to 2008 = 3 years. 2008 to 2009 = 4 years. Thus four years out.

Seems you can't count.

Hows Cadel Edwards doing by the way?
So Contador did amazingly well for a guy who was out of the Tour for 2 years - (using Sproket01 logic).

2007 - 2008 1 year, 2008 to 2009 2 years! (think about it!)

As for Cadel Edwards - Sproket01, did he not replace Chavanal at AG2R?
 
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dimspace said:
i think that whole top 20 is pretty much hogwash.. but then we could all come up with a top 20 based on whatever we liked and probably every top twenty would be different.. one of the few i possibly agree with is actually LA's.. top 10 in the world for the year based on a strong giro position (his first tour in 3 years) and a tour de france podium.. considering injury it was a pretty strong comeback..

you can also put good arguments to why none of them should be number 1
1/Cavendish - only won sprints, with a strong team behind him and a classic
2/Contador - really didnt do much beyond the tour de france
3/EBH - lots of wins, none major though
4/A.Schleck - LBL and 2nd in the tour...
5/Evans - Won one race, was crap the rest of the year
6/Gilbert - won some minor races towards the end of the season
7/Greipel - a few sprints but is 2nd to cav in the team
8/Farrar - came second a lot
9/Lance - got a podium and won nothing
10/Valverde - won a tour and major stage races under a cloud of suspsicion

so none of them should be number one...

actually, depressingly if you look on results its arguable that valverde should be #1 what an awful thought that is..

but that list is tripe..

Spanish ITT Champion
Vuelta al País Vasco (Tour of the Basque Country) overall GC and two stage wins
Paris Nice two stage wins
Volta ao Algarve overall GC and one stage win

So in the end he won 11 races (or 12 if you include the TTT) for only half a year's work.
 

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Time flies

As Lance crouched in the starthouse at the Proloque of the 2009 Tour de France, his mind drifted back to the 2005 race.

"Has it really been 4 years since then?" he pondered.

He did the math in his head quickly to confirm.

"You want a rider?" he crowed.
 
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As Lance crouched in the starthouse at the Proloque of the 2009 Tour de France, his mind drifted back to the 2005 race.

"Has it really been 4 years since then?" he pondered.

He tried to do the math in his head but since he did not finish school and failed his GED it was a little tough for StongArm

"You want a dictator, demagogue, propagagandist and doper?" he crowed.
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Why does it matter? I'm in a bad mood as it is 32oC or 90oF in Aus and it's not even summer. I rode my bike in that heat yesterday. HOT!!!!!

I'd tell you to man up but I've been informed you hail from the fairer sex. 32 degrees celsius is warm, but not hot. Over 35 is hot. Under that is tolerable. You get sympathy for temperatures from 26-33 if the humidity hits 60%.

Sprocket01 said:
No, no. 2006 is not counted twice. This is quite simple. He missed three ToFs, but he was out for four years. When LA was at the start of this year's tour, it will have been his first ToF for four years. Just give it a little thought.

Lance last raced in July 2005. Announced his comeback in August 2008. Time out, 3 years 1 month. When he lined up this July it was his first Tour in 4 years (okay a month short but who is counting) as he'd missed the previous 3. This does not change the fact he was in retirement for only 3 years and missed 3 seasons of racing.

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But since I never mentioned how many tours he missed, but rather how long he was out for, I am correct.

Correction, you were all technically correct it just took a while to get there after ignoring a particular point another was making. Perhaps in future we should collectively leave the math to those who use advanced numerical figures on a daily basis.
 
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Cadel Edwards is what Mellow Velo called Evans in another thread, just in case you wondered what that meant.

Correct, I did. Your first of the week.

A joke, at your expense, which seems to still be working.
Listen to Dr M, there's a good boy.;)

Seems a lot of folks picked you up on your trollomatics, so I don't need to bother again.
Maybe you need a visit from Dim, with his: "Learn to Count, the Headslapping Way", as it could have other benefits, such as sense knocking.

Btw: Heard the latest Shack rumour? Check out the news thread......
 
craig1985 said:
Call me crazy, but from Lance's last race at the 2005 TdF to the 2009 TDU, it was 3 and a half years since he had raced professional.

Contador's last race was this Tour.
If he starts, next season, at say Paris-Nice, using Sprocket's law, he's had a year off the bike.
A two year doping suspension now equates to 3 years off the bike?

Don't think so.
A cycling year is a season.
Besides, Lance was riding a bike, in 2008, when he un-retired.

Don't try to go where Sprocket treads. Even Lance would agree with us.
 
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Mellow Velo said:
Contador's last race was this Tour.
If he starts, next season, at say Paris-Nice, using Sprocket's law, he's had a year off the bike.
A two year doping suspension now equates to 3 years off the bike?

Don't think so.
A cycling year is a season.
Besides, Lance was riding a bike, in 2008, when he un-retired.

Don't try to go where Sprocket treads. Even Lance would agree with us.

I have been here 6 months, I hope to know who is credible and who is talking outof their arse on 90% of the time
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ggusta said:
I just want to know how to put a bullet through this thread's head. It's like a carnival funhouse in here. I can't leave you kids alone for a day.
Is that a 24 hour day, or an inflated 12 hour day?:D

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I have been here 6 months, I hope to know who is credible and who is talking outof their arse on 90% of the time.
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By Sprocket's reckoning, that'll have him talking out of his correct end, 20% of the time!:eek:
 

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Dr. Maserati said:
So Contador did amazingly well for a guy who was out of the Tour for 2 years - (using Sproket01 logic).

Yes it was two physical years between tours, but he never stopped racing professionally and rode two grand tours in 2008, so hardly the same deal.
 

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craig1985 said:
Call me crazy, but from Lance's last race at the 2005 TdF to the 2009 TDU, it was 3 and a half years since he had raced professional.

You'd be better making the point about the Giro to show it wasn't quite four years since a GT, rather than trying to claim the moment he officially was professional again counts as the gap. But given that he wasn't up to full fitness for the Giro it didn't really count. Plus I was only talking about the tour.
 

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That's why when people talk about a two year ban not being long enough (and maybe it's not) they forget that someone won't ride the tour for another three years (if they were banned for doping in the Tour) which is a fair chunk out of their professional career. Take Ricco for instance. Given they usually take another year to get up to speed, that's almost a four year ban if you think about it.

However this is not quite the same point as the one about Lance, because he was properly retired for three years, and then didn't do a proper GT at full fitness until July, making it four years out. That's a much more significant gap, and at age 37. Legendary stuff.
 

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Sprocket01 said:
That's why when people talk about a two year ban not being long enough (and maybe it's not) they forget that someone won't ride the tour for another three years (if they were banned for doping in the Tour) which is a fair chunk out of their professional career. Take Ricco for instance. Given they usually take another year to get up to speed, that's almost a four year ban if you think about it.

However this is not quite the same point as the one about Lance, because he was properly retired for three years, and then didn't do a proper GT at full fitness until July, making it four years out. That's a much more significant gap, and at age 37. Legendary stuff.

So, by Sproket01 logic - Contador wasnt fit for the Giro in 2008, so it does not count.....legendry stuff indeed.

As for Ricco - his ban runs from 17th July 2008 to 17th March 2010, which by Sproket01 math is almost a 4 year ban!
 

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Dr. Maserati said:
So, by Sproket01 logic - Contador wasnt fit for the Giro in 2008, so it does not count.....legendry stuff indeed.

This is sort of a different issue now, but there is a bit of mythology about that. They orginally thought they were going to get a wildcard and were training for the Giro as normal. Contador had only been only holiday for two days when he was called back. It sounded better than it was.

As for Ricco - his ban runs from 17th July 2008 to 17th March 2010, which by Sproket01 math is almost a 4 year ban!

I'm pretty sure that he lost that appeal and will miss next years tour - you might want to check the records on that. Though I'd like to see him in next years Tour to be honest. Don't think it's going to happen. :(
 

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Sprocket01 said:
Contador had only been only holiday for two days when he was called back.
Is that 2 days in human time or using your 'logic'?

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I'm pretty sure that he lost that appeal and will miss next years tour - you might want to check the records on that. Though I'd like to see him in next years Tour to be honest. Don't think it's going to happen. :(

Is CyclingNews a good enough source? From last month - which is 2 months ago using your logic. "UCI reduces Riccò's suspension back to 20 months".
 

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Been searching for the article on Ricco getting lighter sentence overturned but can't find it. I read it on this site so it must have been in August or September. Would be interested for confirmation on that.
 
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Sprocket01 said:
This is sort of a different issue now, but there is a bit of mythology about that. They orginally thought they were going to get a wildcard and were training for the Giro as normal. Contador had only been only holiday for two days when he was called back. It sounded better than it was.



I'm pretty sure that he lost that appeal and will miss next years tour - you might want to check the records on that. Though I'd like to see him in next years Tour to be honest. Don't think it's going to happen. :(

his ban was cut short due to his co-operation with italian authorities , so may 2010 is correct , which means the giro is a possibility.
he wont be in france in july due to the teams he has signed for not his ban