13th BinckBank Tour (2.UWT) 7.8 - 13.8

[jsem94]

Sagan's group gaining on the front groups.

 

[Netserk]

If Sagan had been with the duo, they surely wouldn't be caught. That said, I think they'll stay away even without him.

 

[Billie]

Sagan is flying. Started to chase at 1'20 on the live timing

 

[SafeBet]

If GVA's group comes back this might Benoot's chance to win a bike race.

 

[Jagartrott]

Nice race, helped by the weather.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

What kind of awesomeness has Sagan gone through. He is by far and awayt the strongest in the race

 

[RedheadDane]

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This is unbelievable! How unlucky can he possibly be? And no Echoes - it has nothing to do with not being clear-minded so just drop it! He was clearly the strongest.

Surely Echoes was joking. I don't think anyone would think that being clear-minded can keep you from puncturing.

I can assure you, that nothing that person is saying is meant as a joke... Especially regarding Sagan. He really hates him.

Just find it a bit heard to take that comment seriously. And not in the (not posted) assumption that "it was Sagan's own fault he punctured, since he wasn't clear-minded enough", but because of the "You - any rider - can avoid puncture by being clear-minded" assumption.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Great race by Naesen and Stuyven in this terrain. It has to be said. They are like 5 to 10kg heavier.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Sagan will unleash hell tomorrow. He'll be furious

 

[Netserk]

Congratulations with the race win, Major Tom.

 

[jsem94]

I don't often root for Sagan but now I do given his situation. I hope he terrorizes the race tomorrow.

 

[jsem94]

Damn. Sagan LIVID

 

[Samamba]

Dumoulin is winning the GC here but doing nothing...

 

[TMP402]

Brian Smith: "Lars Boom should stop smiling and start riding"

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

So it's 4 (Benoot not riding) against 2 and still they only lost time.

edit: Why is Belgian TV hyping Dumoulin for the sprint victory? Wellens is more explosive. Oropa is something else.

 

[Jagartrott]

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I don't often root for Sagan but now I do given his situation. I hope he terrorizes the race tomorrow.

Hmm, I understand his frustration, but compare to Dumoulin after his, er, road-side accident in the Giro and how composed he was afterwards. Ultimately, it's just 2 riders up front since he flatted, so he could've chosen to just ride, ride, ride instead of acting all frustrated.

 

[tobydawq]

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This is unbelievable! How unlucky can he possibly be? And no Echoes - it has nothing to do with not being clear-minded so just drop it! He was clearly the strongest.

Surely Echoes was joking. I don't think anyone would think that being clear-minded can keep you from puncturing.

I can assure you, that nothing that person is saying is meant as a joke... Especially regarding Sagan. He really hates him.

Just find it a bit heard to take that comment seriously. And not in the (not posted) assumption that "it was Sagan's own fault he punctured, since he wasn't clear-minded enough", but because of the "You - any rider - can avoid puncture by being clear-minded" assumption.

Well, it's quite typical for that character to conjure up some ad hoc-criteria, and lay them out as indisputable truths in order to belittle Sagan.

So of course it shouldn't be taken seriously, but I think it was meant that way.

 

[Samamba]

This is not how you win a stage, Tim...

 

[Screecher]

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I don't often root for Sagan but now I do given his situation. I hope he terrorizes the race tomorrow.

Hmm, I understand his frustration, but compare to Dumoulin after his, er, road-side accident in the Giro and how composed he was afterwards. Ultimately, it's just 2 riders up front since he flatted, so he could've chosen to just ride, ride, ride instead of acting all frustrated.

Sagan doesn´t have a time-trial coming up where he can gain 3 minutes on everyone else. This mechanical lost him this race and he´s obviously not happy about that.

 

[Netserk]

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I don't often root for Sagan but now I do given his situation. I hope he terrorizes the race tomorrow.

Hmm, I understand his frustration, but compare to Dumoulin after his, er, road-side accident in the Giro and how composed he was afterwards. Ultimately, it's just 2 riders up front since he flatted, so he could've chosen to just ride, ride, ride instead of acting all frustrated.

Difference being that Sagan lost the race when no neutral service was there. No matter how he would have chased, the GC was lost. Not comparable.

He was also frustrated when he was run over by a motorbike in the Vuelta (when he was in prime position to win the stage). It's when you are the victim of the organizers' incompetence that it's only natural that you get frustrated.

 

[SafeBet]

Re: Re:

Hmm, I understand his frustration, but compare to Dumoulin after his, er, road-side accident in the Giro and how composed he was afterwards. Ultimately, it's just 2 riders up front since he flatted, so he could've chosen to just ride, ride, ride instead of acting all frustrated.

What would have changed if he decided to ride, ride, ride?
He lost a race (not today's stage, the whole race) for a flat. It's pretty simple.

 

[RedheadDane]

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This is unbelievable! How unlucky can he possibly be? And no Echoes - it has nothing to do with not being clear-minded so just drop it! He was clearly the strongest.

Surely Echoes was joking. I don't think anyone would think that being clear-minded can keep you from puncturing.

I can assure you, that nothing that person is saying is meant as a joke... Especially regarding Sagan. He really hates him.

Just find it a bit heard to take that comment seriously. And not in the (not posted) assumption that "it was Sagan's own fault he punctured, since he wasn't clear-minded enough", but because of the "You - any rider - can avoid puncture by being clear-minded" assumption.

Well, it's quite typical for that character to conjure up some ad hoc-criteria, and lay them out as indisputable truths in order to belittle Sagan.

So of course it shouldn't be taken seriously, but I think it was meant that way.

But the original post didn't even mention Sagan. It just claimed that any person can avoid punctures by being clear-minded.

Carrefour de l'Arbre never lies. Van Avermaet was stronger that day, fair and square. Punctures are no bad luck, it's a matter of clear-mindedness.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Seems like a deal, Wellens the stage, Dumoulin leader.

 

[tobydawq]

Well, it was a response to a post about Sagan vs. GvA, so it was pretty obviously Sagan he mentioned.

But nevermind that.

I'm just pissed at this race.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Re:

Well, it was a response to a post about Sagan vs. GvA, so it was pretty obviously Sagan he mentioned.

But nevermind that.

I'm just pissed at this race.

What has the race done wrong? Sagan flats./. it's ***, but how can the race do anything about that :lol: