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tobydawq said:RedheadDane said:tobydawq said:This is unbelievable! How unlucky can he possibly be? And no Echoes - it has nothing to do with not being clear-minded so just drop it! He was clearly the strongest.
Surely Echoes was joking. I don't think anyone would think that being clear-minded can keep you from puncturing.
I can assure you, that nothing that person is saying is meant as a joke... Especially regarding Sagan. He really hates him.
Hmm, I understand his frustration, but compare to Dumoulin after his, er, road-side accident in the Giro and how composed he was afterwards. Ultimately, it's just 2 riders up front since he flatted, so he could've chosen to just ride, ride, ride instead of acting all frustrated.jsem94 said:I don't often root for Sagan but now I do given his situation. I hope he terrorizes the race tomorrow.
RedheadDane said:tobydawq said:RedheadDane said:tobydawq said:This is unbelievable! How unlucky can he possibly be? And no Echoes - it has nothing to do with not being clear-minded so just drop it! He was clearly the strongest.
Surely Echoes was joking. I don't think anyone would think that being clear-minded can keep you from puncturing.
I can assure you, that nothing that person is saying is meant as a joke... Especially regarding Sagan. He really hates him.
Just find it a bit heard to take that comment seriously. And not in the (not posted) assumption that "it was Sagan's own fault he punctured, since he wasn't clear-minded enough", but because of the "You - any rider - can avoid puncture by being clear-minded" assumption.
Sagan doesn´t have a time-trial coming up where he can gain 3 minutes on everyone else. This mechanical lost him this race and he´s obviously not happy about that.Jagartrott said:Hmm, I understand his frustration, but compare to Dumoulin after his, er, road-side accident in the Giro and how composed he was afterwards. Ultimately, it's just 2 riders up front since he flatted, so he could've chosen to just ride, ride, ride instead of acting all frustrated.jsem94 said:I don't often root for Sagan but now I do given his situation. I hope he terrorizes the race tomorrow.
Difference being that Sagan lost the race when no neutral service was there. No matter how he would have chased, the GC was lost. Not comparable.Jagartrott said:Hmm, I understand his frustration, but compare to Dumoulin after his, er, road-side accident in the Giro and how composed he was afterwards. Ultimately, it's just 2 riders up front since he flatted, so he could've chosen to just ride, ride, ride instead of acting all frustrated.jsem94 said:I don't often root for Sagan but now I do given his situation. I hope he terrorizes the race tomorrow.
What would have changed if he decided to ride, ride, ride?Jagartrott said:Hmm, I understand his frustration, but compare to Dumoulin after his, er, road-side accident in the Giro and how composed he was afterwards. Ultimately, it's just 2 riders up front since he flatted, so he could've chosen to just ride, ride, ride instead of acting all frustrated.
tobydawq said:RedheadDane said:tobydawq said:RedheadDane said:tobydawq said:This is unbelievable! How unlucky can he possibly be? And no Echoes - it has nothing to do with not being clear-minded so just drop it! He was clearly the strongest.
Surely Echoes was joking. I don't think anyone would think that being clear-minded can keep you from puncturing.
I can assure you, that nothing that person is saying is meant as a joke... Especially regarding Sagan. He really hates him.
Just find it a bit heard to take that comment seriously. And not in the (not posted) assumption that "it was Sagan's own fault he punctured, since he wasn't clear-minded enough", but because of the "You - any rider - can avoid puncture by being clear-minded" assumption.
Well, it's quite typical for that character to conjure up some ad hoc-criteria, and lay them out as indisputable truths in order to belittle Sagan.
So of course it shouldn't be taken seriously, but I think it was meant that way.
Echoes said:Carrefour de l'Arbre never lies. Van Avermaet was stronger that day, fair and square. Punctures are no bad luck, it's a matter of clear-mindedness.
What has the race done wrong? Sagan flats./. it's ***, but how can the race do anything about that :lol:tobydawq said:Well, it was a response to a post about Sagan vs. GvA, so it was pretty obviously Sagan he mentioned.
But nevermind that.
I'm just pissed at this race.