Frosty said:Just looked at betfair and chris anker sorensen is equal sixth favourite for the win! He's nowhere near that high up in the top 3 and top 6 standings though. Is Sorensen likely to be the GC man for Saxobank is the Schlecks arent going? Could sneak into the top 10 perhaps?
Libertine Seguros said:Probably hoping to make a mint off casual fans who recognise Team Saxo Bank as being a top team without any real recognition of the riders and the relevant races. The same way they'll make a mint off people betting on Lance in July.
Frosty said:Who sets the odds though? Isnt it members of the general public?
Moondance said:No... The sports book employs experts who set the line, although the line can shift if there is a lot of action on one specific bet. This happens especially in US-style money line/point spread betting, where the book ideally wants equal action on both sides of the line (so they cancel out) and take the vig. So if one side of the money line is getting significantly more wagers than the other side the line will probably be shifted towards the other side, hopefully creating an equilibrium point.
rgmerk said:As I understand it, Betfair is a betting exchange, and as such it *is* members of the general public who set the odds by as individuals posting what odds they're prepared to offer, and finding another punter who's prepared to accept the bet.
I suppose you've always got the option of simply looking at the bookies' odds and making a bet with Betfair if the offered odds are better. That said, I reckon well-informed punters have a better chance by making bets on specific riders to lose than to win. It's a much easier proposition to get inside info on a rider being much weaker than the market believes, than to get inside information that a rider is much stronger than the market believes.
sportzchick said:Long time no post
For the Giro - I would like to see Evens come up but its going to be tough with so many other riders who can win
As for Vino I also dont get how a rider busted for doping can be this popular........seems like stupidity to me
sportzchick said:Id be a hyprocrite if I didnt say yes and lambasted if I did - but I will say yes regardless
What I like to know is how long can the effects of the drugs be long term - I highly doubt it would stop as soon as the injections stoped
This is more for the doping board not here - we should be talking about the Giro
aarnold517 said:i know its been discussed before, but who is caisse's leader for the giro? i know bruseghin will be racing, but is uran? and which of those two is the leader?
sastre hasnt had alot of cycling though - either its going to work for him and he will be fresh or against him without racing miles in his legsaarnold517 said:have to go with sastre for this one because he seems to only get better as grand tours go on and this has all the hardest climbing in the final week. don't think evans will be able to stay with him on zoncolan or tonale
also real interested to see how serpa does for serramenti and pozzovivo for colnago. both of them can climb with the best on a good day, but i dont know if they can do it for a three week tour
i know its been discussed before, but who is caisse's leader for the giro? i know bruseghin will be racing, but is uran? and which of those two is the leader?
sportzchick said:true and I apologie for my part
And since when someone has the word chick in their username is a male?
Also how is having a tough stance on dopers, firing blanks - everyone too soft on them IMHO
thats OKMoondance said:My apologies madamp). Give that I don't really expect anyone on a sports forum to be a member of the fairer sex, I'm not really on the lookout for clues. And since I don't really pay attention to user names anyway thats a pretty obvious one I missed... Luckily for me I'm studying to become a lawyer not a detective
And the who 'firing blanks' thing was more a continuation of the 'sticking to your guns' metaphor. You stick to your guns when you say Merckx is unworthy of consideration, to me thats, with all due respect, a bunch of BS... Ergo you fire blanks. Twas not a comment on your stance on doping, but your dissing of St. Eddy![]()
rgmerk said:As I understand it, Betfair is a betting exchange, and as such it *is* members of the general public who set the odds by as individuals posting what odds they're prepared to offer, and finding another punter who's prepared to accept the bet.
I suppose you've always got the option of simply looking at the bookies' odds and making a bet with Betfair if the offered odds are better. That said, I reckon well-informed punters have a better chance by making bets on specific riders to lose than to win. It's a much easier proposition to get inside info on a rider being much weaker than the market believes, than to get inside information that a rider is much stronger than the market believes.
sportzchick said:thats OK
Well if I had a dislike if cheats/dopers full stop and then went on to praise Merckx would I not be a hyprocrite???? I might be nieave or stupid (or probally both!) but I cant stomach someone who is a doper then to be called the best there is as you would start to wonder what was done legit and what was acchived thanks to other means
Anways I rather read what you think about the Giro and me see Cadel win it![]()