2011 Giro d'Italia, May 7th, Stage 1: Venaria Reale → Torino, 19.3km TTT

[Michielveedeebee]

very impressive by OPL Does anybody know why kushynski was 1. dropped so damn soon and 2. on a road bike?

 

[auscyclefan94]

Kreuziger didn't seem too bothered by Astana's ride.

 

[jobiwan]

very impressive by OPL Does anybody know why kushynski was 1. dropped so damn soon and 2. on a road bike?

Can't be sure, but probably the same scenario as Rovny, flat tire or something.

 

[goggalor]

Nice of HTC and Cav to let Pinotti take the jersey.

 

[Moondance]

You mean two Americans each?

No. Two between them. HTC have Craig Lewis and a bunch of foreigners, RadioShack have Selander and a foreign legion.

Therefore, two Americans between them.

 

[Descender]

HTC is a Taiwanese company, even though HTC-Highroad are registered American, they're not much more American than Colnago are Irish or Farnese-Vini are British...

 

[Polish]

American teams with a grand total of two Americans between them.

Tres americain

Team Melting Pot.

Give me your sprinters, your climbers. Your huddled TTTers yearning to breathe free. The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Good for Humble Tiago! Family Man.

 

[theyoungest]

No. Two between them. HTC have Craig Lewis and a bunch of foreigners, RadioShack have Selander and a foreign legion.

Therefore, two Americans between them.

Oh wait, I was thinking about Garmin. That other very American team.

 

[luckyboy]

Well that was fun.

 

[Moviefan1203]

I think you mean patriotism. There's definitely something wrong with showing nationalism in sports.

(Also, there can be denying when you consider HTC is basically a German setup that was inherited - though the teams have an American base, I don't think HTC has the same kind of American identity that Radioshack does)
/QUOTE]

I disagree with the nationalism part. I take tremendous pride in seeing Americans do well in international competition in sports, whatever you want to call it patriotism/nationalism. I think both can be applied here. You do have an excellent point about HTC, but many do seem to classify them as American. I think America has a bright future in cycling, and I'm proud of how far we have come in the sport over the last couple decades.

 

[Ferminal]

Happy for Machado, will only start Shack hating if they don't let him attack.

 

[Jamsque]

Nice of HTC and Cav to let Pinotti take the jersey.

The plan was always to give it to Pinotti, some DS or other said that they gave it to Cav two years ago because he was still breaking on to the scene and it was important for his profile, but he doesn't need it now and if he sprints well he'll take it on the next stage anyway.

 

[theyoungest]

I disagree with the nationalism part. I take tremendous pride in seeing Americans do well in international competition in sports, whatever you want to call it patriotism/nationalism. I think both can be applied here. You do have an excellent point about HTC, but many do seem to classify them as American. I think America has a bright future in cycling, and I'm proud of how far we have come in the sport over the last couple decades.

How far have you really come? I don't know how many Americans participate in this Giro, but my guess is: not many. There was a time when Americans could actually compete for the win in the Giro.

 

[hfer07]

Purito & Menchov the biggest losers today.-Nibali should be pleased to be ahead of his nearest competitors

 

[Michielveedeebee]

The plan was always to give it to Pinotti, some DS or other said that they gave it to Cav two years ago because he was still breaking on to the scene and it was important for his profile, but he doesn't need it now and if he sprints well he'll take it on the next stage anyway.

indeed + Pinotti seems like a genuine intellegent and nice guy. (and clean )
Go Pinotti!

 

[Publicus]

Happy for Machado, will only start Shack hating if they don't let him attack.

Agreed. Though I suspect Duarte will take the honors of leading every attack on every mountain stage. Could be quite the battle between those two.

 

[joy118118]

I think you mean patriotism. There's definitely something wrong with showing nationalism in sports.

(Also, there can be denying when you consider HTC is basically a German setup that was inherited - though the teams have an American base, I don't think HTC has the same kind of American identity that Radioshack does)
/QUOTE]

I disagree with the nationalism part. I take tremendous pride in seeing Americans do well in international competition in sports, whatever you want to call it patriotism/nationalism. I think both can be applied here. You do have an excellent point about HTC, but many do seem to classify them as American. I think America has a bright future in cycling, and I'm proud of how far we have come in the sport over the last couple decades.

no, many dont think htc is american. only 4 americans in this team, german tradition, taiwanese sponsors, only register in USA

 

[Moviefan1203]

How far have you really come? I don't know how many Americans participate in this Giro, but my guess is: not many. There was a time when Americans could actually compete for the win in the Giro.

Well in cycling as a whole, I think we have grown leaps and bounds in the last thirty years. And we also have a solid young crop of upcoming riders.

 

[Publicus]

Now for the important question, who is setting up the thread for Stage 2?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I disagree with the nationalism part. I take tremendous pride in seeing Americans do well in international competition in sports, whatever you want to call it patriotism/nationalism. I think both can be applied here. You do have an excellent point about HTC, but many do seem to classify them as American. I think America has a bright future in cycling, and I'm proud of how far we have come in the sport over the last couple decades.

to me, patriotism is taking pride in where you come from. Nationalism is something different entirely, a politically-motivated and potentially dangerous ethos brimming with xenophobic overtones, and I don't think that has a place in sport.

I also really do not understand patriotism/nationalism. Why should I like a guy who was born 200km from me under the same flag more than somebody born 20km from me under a different flag? Why does their birthplace even matter? Some guys are just nice guys and some guys are just not.

 

[Parrulo]

hell ya!!!! go macho-man



wasn't expecting such a good result by OPL. liquigas also doing well even tho they had a bad team according to some. . . . poor anton will have to work a lot to recover the lost time

 

[Cobblestoned]

Now for the important question, who is setting up the thread for Stage 2?

Always he who asks I think

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Purito & Menchov the biggest losers today.-Nibali should be pleased to be ahead of his nearest competitors

pfff, as if..

Nibali has what, 50 seconds on the worst (Anton)?
1x Zoncolan and he has lost that time... and we have far worse than that in this giro

I think Nibali is unhappy he didn't even take a minute out of anyone

 

[Moondance]

Team Melting Pot.

Give me your sprinters, your climbers. Your huddled TTTers yearning to breathe free. The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Good for Humble Tiago! Family Man.

Emma Lazarus... Very impressive.

 

[Michielveedeebee]

pfff, as if..

Nibali has what, 50 seconds on the worst (Anton)?
1x Zoncolan and he has lost that time... and we have far worse than that in this giro

I think Nibali is unhappy he didn't even take a minute out of anyone

1 min on 19 k's is a lot... Don't think he actually expected that...