2012 Giro d'Italia, May 5th, stage 1: Herning → Herning, 8.7 km ITT

[Ryo Hazuki]

how is it meangless for gc. basos could lose 30 seconds to scarponi. who knows

 

[skippy]

Just read the B s it about Peter S's accident !

Police were guarding the crossings but very few on escort . Some ofv the Giro motos were on the course but generally as i rode around with the racers there was a lackl of control !

someonev needs to tell the Giro Vender vans NOT TO DRIVE AGAINST THE TRAFFIC FLÆOW ! As you copme around a blind corner here are a few PRATS taking a short cut regardless of the danger to racers hammering around WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A " CLOSED " COURSE !

Arrived with peter as he changed bikes and her was " calm " under the circumstances , had he been hit by these vans , i think he could have left the race !

 

[iZnoGouD]

Gustav Larsson wins easy

 

[Bavarianrider]

Maybe oone of the prologe guys can pull a McGee and suprise as a GC contender? Can anyone see this happening?
Phinney? Thomas? Rasmussen? Would be cool, McGees performance in 04 really spiced up the race!

 

[al_pacino]

Maybe oone of the prologe guys can pull a McGee and suprise as a GC contender? Can anyone see this happening?
Phinney? Thomas? Rasmussen? Would be cool, McGees performance in 04 really spiced up the race!

No. How many of those will even finish?

 

[search]

all of them will be 10 minutes down after Stage 6

except Larsson and possibly Bennati and Boaro, but none of them will be a factor for general classification anyway

 

[Bavarianrider]

Ok.
How about predicting the winning time?
I say 10:20

 

[will10]

Maybe oone of the prologe guys can pull a McGee and suprise as a GC contender? Can anyone see this happening?
Phinney? Thomas? Rasmussen? Would be cool, McGees performance in 04 really spiced up the race!

All McGees's performance in 04 did was highlight how terrible the parcours was.

 

[maltiv]

Maybe oone of the prologe guys can pull a McGee and suprise as a GC contender? Can anyone see this happening?
Phinney? Thomas? Rasmussen? Would be cool, McGees performance in 04 really spiced up the race!

Definitely none of those. Rasmussen and Phinney are like the worst climbers in the peloton...

Perhaps Boaro could pull a surprise.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

All McGees's performance in 04 did was highlight how terrible the parcours was.

more how terrible his opposition was. cioni finished 4th for christ sake and gontsjar 2nd. if there had been 2 itt's as was normal back then instead of 1 like in 2004. gontsjar would've won that giro

 

[DominicDecoco]

Boaro will be top 3 today. I'm fairly sure on that.

 

[hrotha]

more how terrible his opposition was. cioni finished 4th for christ sake and gontsjar 2nd. if there had been 2 itt's as was normal back then instead of 1 like in 2004. gontsjar would've won that giro

Honchar had done very well in lots of Giros since 1997, with all kinds of opposition and courses. I mean, between 1997 and 2005, he was only once (!!) out of the top 10. Cioni, not so much.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Honchar had done very well in lots of Giros since 1997, with all kinds of opposition and courses. I mean, between 1997 and 2005, he was only once (!!) out of the top 10. Cioni, not so much.

Maybe I'm getting Alzheimers, but as I remember "Honchar" was the UCI register's misspelling of "Gonchar". Ukrainians, please correct me, if I'm wrong here.

And yes, Gonchar would have snapped the Giro from Il Piccolo Principe in '04 with one further ITT.

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

Definitely none of those. Rasmussen and Phinney are like the worst climbers in the peloton...

Perhaps Boaro could pull a surprise.

Maybe Thomas could do something, he was 30th overall last TDF. If he gets pink in the prologue, and if SKY does a good TTT and if Thomas gets motivated/in shape/has luck/etc.....

I mean, that's a whole lot of if's, but out the options mentioned Geraint Thomas seems to me to be the most likely to pull something off.

 

[Gloin22]

Maybe Thomas could do something, he was 30th overall last TDF. If he gets pink in the prologue, and if SKY does a good TTT and if Thomas gets motivated/in shape/has luck/etc.....

I mean, that's a whole lot of if's, but out the options mentioned Geraint Thomas seems to me to be the most likely to pull something off.

Indeed, but his climbing is not good now as he didn't train at all for it, rather he did track for last past 2 months.

 

[maltiv]

Maybe Thomas could do something, he was 30th overall last TDF. If he gets pink in the prologue, and if SKY does a good TTT and if Thomas gets motivated/in shape/has luck/etc.....

I mean, that's a whole lot of if's, but out the options mentioned Geraint Thomas seems to me to be the most likely to pull something off.

He has no climbing legs at all due to all the track training. In Romandie he got dropped on every hill. But in the future he could perhaps get into the top 10 of a GT, but certainly not this year.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Honchar had done very well in lots of Giros since 1997, with all kinds of opposition and courses. I mean, between 1997 and 2005, he was only once (!!) out of the top 10. Cioni, not so much.

yeah but he was never ever close to podium again or before, and also it;'s gonchar and not honchar

 

[manafana]

bennati is the dark horse in this.

 

[hrotha]

Maybe I'm getting Alzheimers, but as I remember "Honchar" was the UCI register's misspelling of "Gonchar". Ukrainians, please correct me, if I'm wrong here.

And yes, Gonchar would have snapped the Giro from Il Piccolo Principe in '04 with one further ITT.

yeah but he was never ever close to podium again or before, and also it;'s gonchar and not honchar

Nope, "Gonchar" was the mistransliteration, based on a Russian reading of the spelling. The proper Ukrainian name is "Honchar".

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Maybe I'm getting Alzheimers, but as I remember "Honchar" was the UCI register's misspelling of "Gonchar". Ukrainians, please correct me, if I'm wrong here.

And yes, Gonchar would have snapped the Giro from Il Piccolo Principe in '04 with one further ITT.

As with most Ukrainians, Belarusians etc born before the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the different orthographies are to blame.

Ukrainian:
Сергій Гончар

Russian:
Сергей Гончар

Ukrainian has both Г (pronounced 'h') and a variant, Ґ (pronounced 'g'), while Russian has just Г (pronounced 'g') as the 'h' sound does not exist in Russian.

Hence his surname is the same in both languages, but is pronounced "Honchar" in Ukrainian and "Gonchar" in Russian. Similarly, his first name is "Serhiy" in Ukrainian and "Sergei" in Russian.

 

[Sophistic]

+1 for Bennati, so many corners, quick acceleration is crucial today.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Nope, "Gonchar" was the mistransliteration, based on a Russian reading of the spelling. The proper Ukrainian name is "Honchar".

no it's not :facepalm: and I know this from a guy who actually speaks russian

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

+1 for Bennati, so many corners, quick acceleration is crucial today.

I think other guys have quicker acceleration like a thomas. bennatti has las it a bit in recent years

 

[hrotha]

no it's not :facepalm: and I know this from a guy who actually speaks russian

Good for you. Does he actually speak Ukrainian too? Because they're, like, different languages.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

no it's not :facepalm: and I know this from a guy who actually speaks russian

I already explained this. Serhiy isn't Russian anyway, so what does speaking Russian have to do with it?

As with most Ukrainians, Belarusians etc born before the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the different orthographies are to blame.

Ukrainian:
Сергій Гончар

Russian:
Сергей Гончар

Ukrainian has both Г (pronounced 'h') and a variant, Ґ (pronounced 'g'), while Russian has just Г (pronounced 'g') as the 'h' sound does not exist in Russian.

Hence his surname is the same in both languages, but is pronounced "Honchar" in Ukrainian and "Gonchar" in Russian. Similarly, his first name is "Serhiy" in Ukrainian and "Sergei" in Russian.