2012 Tirreno-Adriatico Stage 7:San Benedetto del Tronto: 9,3 km ITT

[boomcie]

His TT position is really bad though...losing a lot of time on that. I'm confused why so many riders do not improve what is obvious.

Cause it doesn't feel right to them and they lose some of their power?

 

[Parrulo]

His TT position is really bad though...losing a lot of time on that. I'm confused why so many riders do not improve what is obvious.

why should he improve his position? he will never need his itt anyway as he doesn't race for GC on 1 week races nor GT's

how long till nibali departures?

 

[DJ Sprtsch]

Ha ha, wonder if they are going to show Evans at all, or just Pinotti all the way?

 

[BillytheKid]

It's not that easy to stay in a 'perfect' TT position. Many riders will automatically assume a possition that's more comfortable for them but less aerodynamic.

That's true. It's hard to fit into regular training so most of the work on position is done in the off season. You have to ride in great discomfort. Ride the bike at length at least once week.

 

[TeoSheva]

Ha ha, wonder if they are going to show Evans or just Pinotti all the way?

In P-N we had to see Voeckler all the time, at least Pinotti is better

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I agree. He looked really fast out on the course that I definitely thought that he was going to beat Bennati's time. I didn't see any splits, so I was just basing this on how he looked on the road.

you should never do that. it's totally misleading. all I saw was sagan horrible itt position.

 

[BillytheKid]

why should he improve his position? he will never need his itt anyway as he doesn't race for GC on 1 week races nor GT's

how long till nibali departures?

An ITT is a stage win. I'm sure the sponsor would like that.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

His TT position is really bad though...losing a lot of time on that. I'm confused why so many riders do not improve what is obvious.

because chancing your position to more aerodyanmic doesn't mean you will go faster. it has to do with how much power you can oputput in a certain position. great examples are rujano and thomas dekker that ride in a natural aerodynamic position which partly makes them so strong. *** they have the best possible power output while have like the best possible aerodynamic position

 

[Parrulo]

because chancing your position to more aerodyanmic doesn't mean you will go faster. it has to do with how much power you can oputput in a certain position. great examples are rujano and thomas dekker that ride in a natural aerodynamic position which partly makes them so strong. *** they have the best possible power output while have like the best possible aerodynamic position

exactly, levi is the extreme opposite with a nearly perfect position and not so much power because he is just tiny

 

[boomcie]

exactly, levi is the extreme opposite with a nearly perfect position and not so much power because he is just tiny

Yeah, Rujano is much bigger.

 

[Lexman]

Djezus : Evans rode 11'20"???

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

exactly, levi is the extreme opposite with a nearly perfect position and not so much power because he is just tiny

levi's position is heavily trained and not natural. so he definitely gave up power to ride in that position and all weighing it is probably best for him by some output. but certain riders like a thomas dekker or rujano that are in natural aerodynamic position without ever having trained it or been in windtunnels when young. their most efficient and powerful way of riding just happens to be also very aerodynamical. I hope you understand what I said

some riders like andy schleck, or basso are the total opposite. very good power output in in very bad aerodynamic position

 

[Parrulo]

levi's position is heavily trained and not natural. so he definitely gave up power to ride in that position and all weighing it is probably best for him by some output. but certain riders like a thomas dekker or rujano that are in natural aerodynamic position without ever having trained it or been in windtunnels when young. their most efficient and powerful way of riding just happens to be also very aerodynamical. I hope you understand what I said

some riders like andy schleck, or basso are the total opposite. very good power output in in very bad aerodynamic position

ya i understood it

 

[cineteq]

how long till nibali departures?

Her's the time for the winner of T-A:

138 POELS Wouter VCD 15,32'00
139 POZZOVIVO Domenico COG 15,34'00
140 DI LUCA Danilo ASA 15,36'00
141 RIBLON Christophe ALM 15,38'00
142 RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquin KAT 15,40'00
143 HOOGERLAND Johnny VCD 15,42'00
144 SCARPONI Michele LAM 15,44'00
145 NOCENTINI Rinaldo ALM 15,46'00
146 NIBALI Vincenzo LIQ 15,48'00
147 KREUZIGER Roman AST 15,50'00
148 HORNER Christopher RNT 15,52'00

 

[The Hitch]

lol Garzelli making his case for a giro invite

 

[wirral]

why should he improve his position? he will never need his itt anyway as he doesn't race for GC on 1 week races nor GT's

how long till nibali departures?

Tour of Poland??

 

[Highlander]

Djezus : Evans rode 11'20"???

I didn't see Evans cross the line, but the shots on the road weren't very encouraging. His pedal stroke looked very labored and it looked like he was pedaling squares at times.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

very good itt by garzelli!

 

[royalpig180]

I didn't see Evans cross the line, but the shots on the road weren't very encouraging. His pedal stroke looked very labored and it looked like he was pedaling squares at times.

Yeah he didn't look very good. I doubt he was trying all that hard though... just trying to work up the form.

 

[TeoSheva]

Her's the time for the winner of T-A:

138 POELS Wouter VCD 15,32'00
139 POZZOVIVO Domenico COG 15,34'00
140 DI LUCA Danilo ASA 15,36'00
141 RIBLON Christophe ALM 15,38'00
142 RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquin KAT 15,40'00
143 HOOGERLAND Johnny VCD 15,42'00
144 SCARPONI Michele LAM 15,44'00
145 NOCENTINI Rinaldo ALM 15,46'00
146 NIBALI Vincenzo LIQ 15,48'00
147 KREUZIGER Roman AST 15,50'00
148 HORNER Christopher RNT 15,52'00

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[Tigerion]

Eurosport stream is live for anybody who hasn't already worked that out

http://sports-livez.com/channel/ch-12.php

 

[royalpig180]

very good itt by garzelli!

What's his time?

 

[TeoSheva]

what's his time?

10º , 11:00

 

[The Hitch]

What's his time?

11.00

9th so far.

 

[BillytheKid]

because chancing your position to more aerodyanmic doesn't mean you will go faster. it has to do with how much power you can oputput in a certain position. great examples are rujano and thomas dekker that ride in a natural aerodynamic position which partly makes them so strong. *** they have the best possible power output while have like the best possible aerodynamic position

Wrong. It is the balance. Sagan gives me the impression that he it the mind set that comfort is better. Your right, you can't go to far into it, but it is something you can adapt to if you work at it. Look up the the research, but it's more of a factor the greater the distance of ITT. Wiggins, Martin, Evans, etc...they all are masters.