2013 Giro D'Italia Field Discussion

[The Hitch]

You go on like Henao has not had a fair crack at leading he co-lead a Giro last year in his first season with SKY,

Wasn't he doing leadouts for cav's leadout's leadout?

 

[Netserk]

I'm afraid this year's no TT Vuelta is a bit thick even for such a beast like Wiggo.

no TT????

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[Ryo Hazuki]

Wasn't he doing leadouts for cav's leadout's leadout?

yes and he was also dragging uran up the road in the final stages. henao didn't co lead any gt last year or any race for that matter except burgos

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

He's italian in an Italian race, for a team part sponsored by Sky Italia. It's a PR pick.

yeah I'm sure the italians will go mad for puccio

 

[King Of The Wolds]

Wasn't he doing leadouts for cav's leadout's leadout?

Yeah, same as last year's 1 and 2 in the Tour.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Wasn't he doing leadouts for cav's leadout's leadout?

far worse. he was put up teh road to chase leading groups for entire stages.

 

[keithmcmahon]

far worse. he was put up teh road to chase leading groups for entire stages.

they have puccio for that this year

 

[King Of The Wolds]

A strong looking Sky squad, but I'm disappointed that there's just 1 Brit. If Sky are about developing British road talent, then just 1 Brit in a GT is a failure of sorts, regardless of whether Wiggo wins. I'd have liked to have seen Pete Kennaugh in there, instead of Puccio.

 

[Escarabajo]

You go on like Henao has not had a fair crack at leading he co-lead a Giro last year in his first season with SKY, and this year he has lead a few race's and got good results. Wiggo is not going be around long, surely Sky is the best place for him. C Froome and S Henao will probably be the 2 main riders. The only way Henao should leave is if he wants to always be a Tour leader because he wont never be ahead of Froome, why don't riders just do Giro Vuelta every year?.

Tell that to a very talented rider who has been watching the Tour since a little kid and only dreams of one day performing well, winning or riding the Tour. No way Jose. It is not the same. We fans love the three of them but it is not the same thing in the eyes of a rider.

 

[Cavendash]

Wiggins will never win the triple crown. Not a chance.

A lot of people said that about him winning the Tour, if he wins this Giro which he has a great chance of doing he'll just have the Vuelta to go, certainly very possible if they put in some TT miles for him.

 

[the sceptic]

A lot of people said that about him winning the Tour, if he wins this Giro which he has a great chance of doing he'll just have the Vuelta to go, certainly very possible if they put in some TT miles for him.

Cmon there is no way in hell he is winning the vuelta after riding the previous 2. He wont have a chance against all the prepared spanish riders that focus solely on the vuelta.

 

[Cavendash]

Good point, Hes only ridden it once hasn't he? all im saying is he will have a chance at it especially if there is some decent TT miles and maybe a couple less mountain stages, certainly better than no chance.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

A lot of people said that about him winning the Tour, if he wins this Giro which he has a great chance of doing he'll just have the Vuelta to go, certainly very possible if they put in some TT miles for him.

 

[TANK91]

yes and he was also dragging uran up the road in the final stages. henao didn't co lead any gt last year or any race for that matter except burgos

You did not watch same race as me then Henao came 9th, Uran 7th I think? If he did not co lead then he would not of been so high up and he would of went in breakaways yet he didn't.

 

[TANK91]

Wasn't he doing leadouts for cav's leadout's leadout?

Im not sure Hitch but the stages I watched he certainly was going for gc with Uran, the last stage on the Stelvio he was helping Uran a bit, but surely if you have 2 riders that were similar and are high up in GC you are leading, which is pretty good in your first GT. Ryo probably wont admit that he co-lead because 9th does not sound two good but in your first GT that is a extremely good result imo.

 

[TANK91]

Tell that to a very talented rider who has been watching the Tour since a little kid and only dreams of one day performing well, winning or riding the Tour. No way Jose. It is not the same. We fans love the three of them but it is not the same thing in the eyes of a rider.

Well like I said if he badly wants the Tour he should leave then but he as got age on is side so why the rush, who knows if Froome wins the TDF he may do a Wiggo and try win the Giro and Vuelta in same year and Wiggo wont be great next year imo he will be at the weird GT age of 34 that is when you dip. Good luck beating Sky on a diff weaker team though if he leaves only guy i see really being how to beat Sky/Froome in near future is Quintana not Henao.

 

[TANK91]

A strong looking Sky squad, but I'm disappointed that there's just 1 Brit. If Sky are about developing British road talent, then just 1 Brit in a GT is a failure of sorts, regardless of whether Wiggo wins. I'd have liked to have seen Pete Kennaugh in there, instead of Puccio.

I want to see Edmonsen in a GT this year he is v young so it should be the Vuelta. Edmonsen looks like a talent he done good in Algarve, Kennaugh and Edmonsen will do La Vuelta probably helping Henao or Uran.

 

[TANK91]

Cmon there is no way in hell he is winning the vuelta after riding the previous 2. He wont have a chance against all the prepared spanish riders that focus solely on the vuelta.

I think if Wiggins does the Giro and Vuelta he has a very good chance actualy, it wont happen of course because someone else will lead imo. All the main Spaniards are doing the TDF so unless they ride it easy like Valverde last year how can they possibly have a better chance than someone who does not do the Tour.

 

[JRanton]

So for Sky's Giro squad I think we're looking at 9 from the following 11:

Wiggins, Uran, Henao, Cataldo, Siutsou, Lopez, Kennaugh, Zandio, Knees, Pate, Puccio

Sky seem to have tweaked Siutsou's race programme over the last month so I think it's now a possibility that he rides the Giro. Recent interviews as good as completely rule out Porte and Kiryienka so they're not included. Puccio is a wild card but he's been going quite well this season plus he's Italian.

Happy with my prediction. Siutsou and Lopez swapped programme's (race programme that is ) at the end of March so that's why the Spaniard misses out. Puccio instead of Kennaugh. Lopez has obviously been going so well that they want to hold him back for the Tour and he must be the extra climber that Brailsford was talking about in terms of taking Cav's place in the July team.

 

[JRanton]

why puccio? he's not good for ttt or anything for that matter. still sky;s choice...

He was pretty strong along with Knees on the stage that Froome lost Tirreno. Ok, it was early work but they were having to control a large break up the road on very hard terrain for 100km+. He's pretty good on hills, ok on the flat. Kennaugh and Dombrowski were both weak on that stage and haven't made the Giro squad. I did say that P-N and Tirreno would be auditions for Sky's Giro and Tour squads but some people said I was talking nonsense.

 

[Cavendash]

Lo, You didn't forget the Data laugh did you, that was valid though.

Why would anyone really put it past Wiggins/Sky to win the the Giro and Vuelta before his careers up?

 

[jaylew]

All the recent noises make it feel like Wiggins is going to call in sick for the Tour and ride the Vuelta instead, which makes a lot more sense.

God, I hope not. Give Uran and/or Henao a shot in at least one GT this year, please.

Nice. My thoughts exactly.

 

[JRanton]

A strong looking Sky squad, but I'm disappointed that there's just 1 Brit. If Sky are about developing British road talent, then just 1 Brit in a GT is a failure of sorts, regardless of whether Wiggo wins. I'd have liked to have seen Pete Kennaugh in there, instead of Puccio.

Reality is that Kennaugh hasn't been quite good enough so far this season. He's looking better at Romandie though. It could work out for the best if he gets more of a free role in some smaller stage races coming up in the next few months before going on to the Vuelta.

Wiggns will be at the Giro. Froome and Thomas are certain for the Tour. Maybe Stannard too. JTL and Kennaugh should do the Vuelta. That leaves neo-pro Edmondson, 2nd year pro Luke Rowe and Ben Swift who will be focussing only on one week stage races this season (if he ever gets fit!).

 

[The Hitch]

Lo, You didn't forget the Data laugh did you, that was valid though.

Why would anyone really put it past Wiggins/Sky to win the the Giro and Vuelta before his careers up?

The vuelta is not in the triple crown. Triple crown is giro-tour- world's. No vuelta.

 

[whittashau]

I didnt know that
Seriously,yeah,imo he will lose around 2'30 to Wiggins.Can he beat him by 2 and half in mountains?Yes,he can.Simple as that.

2:30 in 55k? if he doesn't lose close to 4 minutes it'll be a miracle. Based on last year's tour he could conceivably lose 5 minutes.