2013 Giro D'Italia Field Discussion

[Vino attacks everyone]

Tanel Kangert (Astana) should be riding in Giro too.

that is good. He has steadily improved his climbing abilities over thelast 2-3 years, and will be a very strong helper for Nibali in the not so hard mountains (and he is an ok tter)

 

[auscyclefan94]

Evans is quite a good friend with Wiggins actually. Helped at times Froome at Tirreno as well. I wouldn't expect him working with Nibali much against Wiggins specifically.

I don't recall them being friends tbh and neither do I recall him working for Froome.

 

[Gloin22]

I don't recall them being friends tbh and neither do I recall him working for Froome.

Well he did help him at Tirreno. Either stage 6 or 7. He struggled a bit on the hills and Evans was pacing his small group to bring him back to the lead group. He didn't really have to do that, but he did. It's not like he was juts working for Froome of course, he was doing it fro himself a bit as well, but he was helping Froome to bridge the gap definitely.

 

[Parrulo]

Well he did help him at Tirreno. Either stage 6 or 7. He struggled a bit on the hills and Evans was pacing his small group to bring him back to the lead group. He didn't really have to do that, but he did. It's not like he was juts working for Froome of course, he was doing it fro himself a bit as well, but he was helping Froome to bridge the gap definitely.

he was doing it for hushovd who was in the group and if it all came back together could have won the stage. . .

 

[movingtarget]

He's been the prototype of borgs ever since he raced GT's himself. On the Galibier in 2011 he put out a performance never matched afterwards by the now Skyborgs, and he never attacked from far before 2012. And now he's just pathetic, not accepting TJVG is the best possible leader for BMC. Why doesn't he just accept the injuries and illnesses have taken their toll on him, and he's close to retirement?

If Cunego and Voeckler managed to hang on Evans back wheel for most of the Galibier it shows you how good Basso, Contador, Sanchez and co were going. When has Evans ever had a team mate with him on the last half of a MTF not counting 2012 of course ? Sky have at least four there towards the finish. Horner used to drop off when the attacks began but was there longer than any of Evan's other team mates. Evans has nothing in common with the Skyborg. You are confusing him with US Postal.

 

[will10]

He's definitely not going win it though. Top 10 plus a stage win at best imo. Anyway I do like he doesnt ride Tour. He wouldn't be any factor at Tour at all.

He's riding the Tour too: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/evans-to-ride-the-giro-ditalia

 

[auscyclefan94]

If Cunego and Voeckler managed to hang on Evans back wheel for most of the Galibier it shows you how good Basso, Contador, Sanchez and co were going. When has Evans ever had a team mate with him on the last half of a MTF not counting 2012 of course ? Sky have at least four there towards the finish. Horner used to drop off when the attacks began but was there longer than any of Evan's other team mates. Evans has nothing in common with the Skyborg. You are confusing him with US Postal.

Voeckler had a spectacular TDF and Cunego was also back to some very good form. It seems you are putting down the enormity of Evans' performance on the Galibier.

 

[movingtarget]

Voeckler had a spectacular TDF and Cunego was also back to some very good form. It seems you are putting down the enormity of Evans' performance on the Galibier.

Not at all, others are implying something else. I thought it was a great performance and where he saved his Tour. What Evans did has nothing in common with Sky tactics, he just did what he had to do at the time.

 

[cineteq]

I am very happy about this. It makes total sense. Evans has won the Tour, why not try to add the Giro? The fact that his form is not great atm does not bother me. That will mean he won't be too good for the Giro too early.

Evans has no chance whatsoever. It'll be a training ride for him, a farewell Tour? Your degree of 'naïvité' is amazing.

 

[Pentacycle]

If Cunego and Voeckler managed to hang on Evans back wheel for most of the Galibier it shows you how good Basso, Contador, Sanchez and co were going. When has Evans ever had a team mate with him on the last half of a MTF not counting 2012 of course ? Sky have at least four there towards the finish. Horner used to drop off when the attacks began but was there longer than any of Evan's other team mates. Evans has nothing in common with the Skyborg. You are confusing him with US Postal.

He rode like a train that day, so much that it was perhaps the performance of a lifetime, and it defined his career. The TT 2 days later was just a formality. Galibier was when Cadel finally took matters in his own hands, not anticipating on actions of others.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Evans has no chance whatsoever. It'll be a training ride for him, a farewell Tour? Your degree of 'naïvité' is amazing.

Your degree of incapability to read what I said never ceases to amaze me. I said, "why not try to add the giro". That does not mean I think he will win. He also said that it won't be a training ride, so you are wrong again.

 

[movingtarget]

Evans has no chance whatsoever. It'll be a training ride for him, a farewell Tour? Your degree of 'naïvité' is amazing.

Well Evans pretty much conceded that Nibali and Wiggins will probably fight out the win and that he was going to do what he could in the race.

 

[cineteq]

Well Evans pretty much conceded that Nibali and Wiggins will probably fight out the win and that he was going to do what he could in the race.

Yeah but how? He has shown zero high-level of competitiveness.

Your degree of incapability to read what I said never ceases to amaze me. I said, "why not try to add the giro". That does not mean I think he will win. He also said that it won't be a training ride, so you are wrong again.

No worries mate, I forgive you for being a fanboy. You can call me 'stoopid' too (I saw what you did).

 

[movingtarget]

He rode like a train that day, so much that it was perhaps the performance of a lifetime, and it defined his career. The TT 2 days later was just a formality. Galibier was when Cadel finally took matters in his own hands, not anticipating on actions of others.

Well that's how you win grand tours like Contador's attack in the last week of the Vuelta 2012. The TT confirmed Evan' Galibier ride. He was in the best form of his life climbing and TT and his season up till then was very good. In the past Evans would look around for help but this time he realised none was coming and was smart enough not to react earlier knowing that Schleck had to weaken on the last climb.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Yeah but how? He has shown zero high-level of competitiveness.

No worries mate, I forgive you for being a fanboy. You can call me 'stoopid' too (I saw what you did).

Again, learn to read. It is not ****ing hard to work out what I said and meant by that comment.

 

[movingtarget]

Yeah but how? He has shown zero high-level of competitiveness.

Maybe you should be asking him that. He says "it's not for training" but it's hard to think otherwise unless can can get a stage win. See if there is any any improvement at Trentino.

 

[The Hitch]

No, most riders opting to go to the Giro this year just have some bad experiences with the Tour. Sammie crashed hard last year, and Basso had a bad run in 2010, '11 and '12. Gesink has never not crashed in the Tour, Hesjedal wasn't very lucky either last year. Evans perhaps feels the Tour is a level too high for him now, or that it may help him prepare for the Tour.
.

nope.

basso - home race, knows tour dream is out of reach.
Sanchez- always wanted to have a go at the giro. Always said he would.
Hejsedal- defending champion. Love's the giro and doesn't think it hurts his tdf too much
Gesink- don't know, maybe you are right on him.

 

[movingtarget]

The thing I find strange about Evans performances this year is that he started well at Oman and usually would carry that form into subsequent races. He claims that he has not been ill so it seems pretty strange that he was so bad at Tirreno and the Criterium Int.

 

[cineteq]

Maybe you should be asking him that. He says "it's not for training" but it's hard to think otherwise unless can can get a stage win. See if there is any any improvement at Trentino.

Typical Evans responses, like this one: 'I have a bit of work to do'.

 

[movingtarget]

Typical Evans responses, like this one: 'I have a bit of work to do'.

Yes he's not one for a great quote. Must frustrate journalists but Contador is the same. He does not himself any chance of winning some race and then proceeds to rip the legs off his opponents and win easily.

 

[movingtarget]

Typical Evans responses, like this one: 'I have a bit of work to do'.

I think it's Cadelspeak for "go away !"

 

[theyoungest]

I think it's Cadelspeak for "go away !"

No. That's "Don't stand on my dog!"

Evans is always super-euphemistic regarding his form. Basically you can't read anything in what he says. To me it seems like he's definitely over the hill, he's always strong all season. Not anymore.

 

[cineteq]

I think it's Cadelspeak for "go away !"

That's a great work of 'decoding' Cadel, but the journos and ACF haven't figure it out yet.

 

[The Hitch]

Evans is quite a good friend with Wiggins actually. Helped at times Froome at Tirreno as well. I wouldn't expect him working with Nibali much against Wiggins specifically.

that's not what he said.
in fact your post is very strange. Your expecting Evans - the bmc leader, to devote his entire race working for Wiggins.

even to the point where if he has a chance at a stage win or pink jersey on a hill break with Nibali, he will refuse to put in his share of the work so Wiggins will come back. because apparently he is such good friends with Wiggins.

As evidence of this alleged loyalty you offer an example of Evans working for froome - a totally different rider, and the example turns out to be totally flawed anyway.

 

[theyoungest]

Although it did look like Evans was helping Froome in Tirreno, in fact it turned out Hushovd was tucked at the back of that group and Evans was helping him.