2013 Giro D'Italia Field Discussion

[Ferminal]

Time for a new poll with the Giro just over 1 week away?

Expect some peoples opinions may have changed after watching the contenders so far this season.

What are the options?

Hesjedal
Wiggins
Nibali
Evans
Santambrogio/Pozzovivo
Sanchez/Gesink
Scarponi/Basso
Cobo/Pellizotti
A South American
Vino

 

[TANK91]

henao was fully rounded and developped before he ever went to sky. thney don't deserve any praise. antioquia and colombia es passion have developped him. he didn't need any adaption time at all when going to sky. in fact bakc in 2011 he was already kicking everyones *** in utah against top wt riders and he was also the best u23 rider worldwide in 2009, also in europe he won almost every race he took part in.

and the vuelta colombia is way harder than any wt race save the 3 gt's perhaps. winning that is something you don't just achieve. it';s more than 2 weeks and looking on the winners list says more than enough. all top class riders

Clueless, look at the roll of honour lol put them in any race they coulnt keep in the peleton on a flat stage. Of course Henao has improved look at his results lol, same with Quintana anything Quintana has done this year is the best in his carear surely? The winners list is nohing special imo if im wrong people call me out on it .

 

[Sasquatch]

I haven't followed much the last few months, but why is Sanchez doing the Giro when the Tour suits him far more?

 

[TANK91]

I haven't followed much the last few months, but why is Sanchez doing the Giro when the Tour suits him far more?

He cant win TDF so maybe he do Giro Vuelta and win Vuelta imo?

 

[ILovecycling]

You said < 3 mins, I said > 4 mins, and you want to set the cut-off at 4 mins? I'm not stupid. 3:30 and we may have a deal

Ok deal.There is a chance that he won't ride it 100%,but I can risk it...so 3'30,and whats your avatar pick?

To the topic:
As for Kruiswijk x Gesink thing...Imo Kruiswijk has more potential for GT races,but he has to go elsewhere,Blanco is not right place for this talents

 

[ILovecycling]

He cant win TDF so maybe he do Giro Vuelta and win Vuelta imo?

Yeah,I think the same,but he unfortunately doesnt stand a chance against Sky leader if its whosoever (Wiggins,Uran,Porte or Henao).He-Sammy is very bad this year,i hope he can improve

 

[wwabbit]

Ok deal.There is a chance that he won't ride it 100%,but I can risk it...so 3'30,and whats your avatar pick?

Ok we have a deal.
I remember a video clip of Wiggins falling into mud during a training ride, I'll try to find it and get a capture.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I can agree about adaptation, but can't about development. Every young rider, like he is, has space for improvement.
Vuelta Colombia certainly is a hard race. Probably harder than majority of European races physically wise, but the competition there and everything what racing with the best and already established professionals brings must be below European level. That's why so much South American talents couldn't live up to expectations, I think.

name them?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Clueless, look at the roll of honour lol put them in any race they coulnt keep in the peleton on a flat stage. Of course Henao has improved look at his results lol, same with Quintana anything Quintana has done this year is the best in his carear surely? The winners list is nohing special imo if im wrong people call me out on it .

quintana has improved yes. he also left colombia when he was 20 henao left when he was already fully rounded and winner in colombia(still only 23 years old then). same with soler who hit the scene immediately and climbed with the best, or rujano. all 3 of those I predicted to be on top as soon as they hit european scene and they did. I also preducted quintana winning avenir and becoming a big star and perhaps first colombian tour winner

what colombians drop in the flat? no riders drop in the flat unless they are very bad and unprofessional or injured. the wind maybe, yes. but these are professional riders. colombian flat stages are driven just as hard as europe. only less hectic, no sprinttrains, no echeclons.

I remember interview with pevenage after 2009 vuelta in colombia how shocked he was at the colombian level even on flat lands when duarte had a flat tire. 2 teams starting riding over 50 km/h for 2 hours until duarte and his team were dead.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Bizzare and pointless discussion - Henao joined Sky as a neo pro and has not raced any of the races on his schedule for any other team, so whilst he has clearly improved year on year as you would expect any younger (I know he's not 20) rider to do, there's no benchmark to say what is Sky and what is not.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Bizzare and pointless discussion - Henao joined Sky as a neo pro and has not raced any of the races on his schedule for any other team, so whilst he has clearly improved year on year as you would expect any younger (I know he's not 20) rider to do, there's no benchmark to say what is Sky and what is not.

his itt improvement is sky. the rest is colombia. simple as that and of course he's still improving. he would've improved in colombia as well. that's normal for a talent his age

 

[taiwan]

What are the options?

Hesjedal
Wiggins
Nibali
Evans
Santambrogio/Pozzovivo
Sanchez/Gesink
Scarponi/Basso
Cobo/Pellizotti
A South American
Vino

Nibali
Wiggins
Hesjedal
Sanchez
Gesink
Betancourt/Henao/Uran
Scarponi/Basso
Pellizotti/Rujano
Intxausti/Capecchi/Cobo
Vino/other

2late nvm.

 

[serfla]

name them?

I'll name one - Rujano.
You know better who the rest are.

 

[Netserk]

I'll name one - Rujano.
You know better who the rest are.

Did you see Giro '05?

First GT in his first year racing in Europe.

 

[serfla]

Did you see Giro '05?
First GT in his first year racing in Europe.

What has he done since?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I'll name one - Rujano.
You know better who the rest are.

rujano podiumed his first ever gt. how is that disapointing.

 

[airstream]

Strange that Ryo is so indecently shy with his pro- Rujano Giro campaign

I think separate stages suit Jose much better than GC, so I wish him to win some of them,

 

[serfla]

rujano podiumed his first ever gt. how is that disapointing.

Take a look at the post above yours.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

What has he done since?

that's not the point. you argue that riders from south america aren't on same level as europeans or even higher, wel you bringing up rujano only prooves my point.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Strange that Ryo is so indecently shy with his pro- Rujano Giro campaign

because rujano's own words are simple. his goal is the vuelta and tou de suisse. he rides only the giro to get into shape.

 

[serfla]

that's not the point. you argue that riders from south america aren't on same level as europeans or even higher, wel you bringing up rujano only prooves my point.

No.
A single result proves the potential we've already known he has.
Entire career is what we should take in account when comparing general level.

 

[PedalCastro]

What will Duarte be like? What will he aim for?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

What will Duarte be like? What will he aim for?

who knows he seems in such bad shape I wouldn't expect anything

 

[taiwan]

No Giro for Guardini. Didn't think people did Turkey before the Giro anyway but maybe it wasn't confirmed.

 

[jens_attacks]

What will Duarte be like? What will he aim for?

to not abandon after the first week
their form is only enough to keep with the cyclotourists