2013 Tour de France, stage 18: Gap - Alpe-d'Huez, 172.5km

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manafana said:
its not cheating thou is it, its a guideline that can be broken just like when sprinter is dangerous its not cheating. he took his penalty as per the rules

Exactly. Its the tiniest of tiny deals. Big Mig did it in 1996 and guess what, was docked 20 seconds. The small punishment fits the nature of the crime. The rule is there for safety aimed at keeping cars away from hecting sprints and run ins at the end of stages (hence why Portal was punished a lot more than the riders). It was a breach of health and safety not cheating.
 
autologous said:
The 20 seconds is inconsequential.

What Froome's actions have done is absolutely destroy the "we're Sky, we're British and we'll never cheat, it's not in our nature" myth.

Not only does he knowingly and willingly cheat while wearing the yellow jersey, absolutely disrespecting the MJ, p*ssing on it.

He cheats while the race officials are telling him and his team on the radio that it would be an illegal feed.

The yellow jersey wearer decides to cheat, but sends Porte, thinking that he can use this technicality, while being watched by millions.

After the stage, out of the heat of competition and after deliberation , he doubles down on the bullsh*t technicality and suggests it was only Porte that cheated.

He takes the fans for fools.

He absolutely confirms that for him and for Sky, rules are mere technicalities and are there to be skirted.

What other rules does he think are not worth respecting?

His true nature revealed : Disgusting cheat.
Alpe d'Huez: Mountain

Froome feeding "scandal": Molehill.
 
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Vino's Mum said:
Please tell me you're joking?

It's an arbitrary rule that's all about making sure there's no team cars around at the end of the stage, to keep everyone safe, and stop anyone pacing behind anything, and nothing whatsoever to do with preventing anyone from eating/drinking and 'cheating' and 'illegal feeds'.

All kinds of fines are handed out every day for hanging on to cars for too long, riding between cars too much after a mechanical, and so on. Everyone pays up and takes the penalty. No biggie.

No one wants to see anyone collapse on the bike, hence the rule was relaxed on the Ventoux stage because of the heat. Was everyone cheating then?

autologous said:
The 20 seconds is inconsequential.

What Froome's actions have done is absolutely destroy the "we're Sky, we're British and we'll never cheat, it's not in our nature" myth.

Not only does he knowingly and willingly cheat while wearing the yellow jersey, absolutely disrespecting the MJ, p*ssing on it.

He cheats while the race officials are telling him and his team on the radio that it would be an illegal feed.

The yellow jersey wearer decides to cheat, but sends Porte, thinking that he can use this technicality, while being watched by millions.

After the stage, out of the heat of competition and after deliberation , he doubles down on the bullsh*t technicality and suggests it was only Porte that cheated.

He takes the fans for fools.

He absolutely confirms that for him and for Sky, rules are mere technicalities and are there to be skirted.

What other rules does he think are not worth respecting?

His true nature revealed : Disgusting cheat.

i think it's more of on his interview. It's quite all right if you broke the rule and said yes i did take food. But to tell the audience, it wasn't him who take the food from the car but porte.. now.. that's something. Porte won't go back to the car if he didn't tell him that. Duh. Porte didn't need gel. He is not only whining like andy, now he is also a cheater for laying the blame to his team mate. Man up. And take the responsibility.
 
mrhender said:
The yellow jersey wearer decides to cheat, but sends Porte, thinking that he can use this technicality, while being watched by millions. Quote: autologous

http://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/archive/00949/Cycling_Tour_de_Fra_949836m.jpg

Take a look at the picture!!!

Is it just me or does Porte not look totally satisfied??

Maybe his arrogance afterwards blaiming Porte, can enhance Portes possible dismay with his captain?
I understood that gesture to let him pass first for the KOM points.
 
Jelantik said:
i think it's more of on his interview. It's quite all right if you broke the rule and said yes i did take food. But to tell the audience, it wasn't him who take the food from the car but porte.. now.. that's something. Porte won't go back to the car if he didn't tell him that. Duh. Porte didn't need gel. He is not only whining like andy, now he is also a cheater for laying the blame to his team mate. Man up. And take the responsibility.

Really, it's a nothing story. He takes the time penalty and the team pays the fines.

The end.
 
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mrhender said:
The yellow jersey wearer decides to cheat, but sends Porte, thinking that he can use this technicality, while being watched by millions. Quote: autologous

http://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/archive/00949/Cycling_Tour_de_Fra_949836m.jpg

Take a look at the picture!!!

Is it just me or does Porte not look totally satisfied??

Maybe his arrogance afterwards blaiming Porte, can enhance Portes possible dismay with his captain?

Just finished the stage, how is he supposed to look?

And anyway, this picture represents one second so it doesn't really matter. Afterwards they were given hugs to each other.. Porte is commited to Froome. End of.
 
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autologous said:
The 20 seconds is inconsequential.

What Froome's actions have done is absolutely destroy the "we're Sky, we're British and we'll never cheat, it's not in our nature" myth.

Not only does he knowingly and willingly cheat while wearing the yellow jersey, absolutely disrespecting the MJ, p*ssing on it.

He cheats while the race officials are telling him and his team on the radio that it would be an illegal feed.

The yellow jersey wearer decides to cheat, but sends Porte, thinking that he can use this technicality, while being watched by millions.

After the stage, out of the heat of competition and after deliberation , he doubles down on the bullsh*t technicality and suggests it was only Porte that cheated.

He takes the fans for fools.

He absolutely confirms that for him and for Sky, rules are mere technicalities and are there to be skirted.

What other rules does he think are not worth respecting?

His true nature revealed : Disgusting cheat.

Really? How old are you?

Grow up :mad:
 
What a lot of hot air! Apart from that:

"No one is answering guys, Porte just said CF hunger flatted, so does that mean its possible he will be ok tomorrow or does it mean he will get weaker day by day. Someone answer please?"
He is starting to struggle. His recovery is good BUT he is human: he'll get weaker day by day, but there are only 2 days to go


"the fact that he's no real cyclist. he constantly talks in his radio, is clueless about what to do on his own, has the worst style of anyone I've ever seen. it doesn't even look like cycling what he is doing. and many more reasons"
His cycling style is getting more ragged too. But, its hard not to admire his personality off the bike

All this chatting on the radios does my head in !. And the laughing and patting porte on the back ****. Just get on with it !.

If Porte had been doing his job properly, he'd have had a gel to give Froome at that point

And if Yates had been driving the car, it wouldn'd have dared break down!
 
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mrhender said:
The yellow jersey wearer decides to cheat, but sends Porte, thinking that he can use this technicality, while being watched by millions. Quote: autologous

http://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/archive/00949/Cycling_Tour_de_Fra_949836m.jpg

Take a look at the picture!!!

Is it just me or does Porte not look totally satisfied??


Maybe his arrogance afterwards blaiming Porte, can enhance Portes possible dismay with his captain?

Also to add, see this.

Lol

So much for your analysis there :p

http://instagram.com/p/b67mwimxvn/
 
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The feed is what it is. The excuse and not manning up is a little more revealing of character. Not the type of champion I want even if swallow the "sky is clean" pill.
 
Maybe like so many other things that were supposedly
"staged" during this Tour, this illegal feed was also staged
as a favour to SKY's energy bar partner and will soon be
featured in a TV ad. Marginal gains for the commercial
partners as well...just like the SKY/Movistar coalition to
benefit Pinarello. Money makes the Tour go round, and
SKY is the richest team because they give sponsors the
best value for each Euro invested so have little trouble
attracting sponsors/partners while some other teams
are in danger of folding.
 
Apr 10, 2011
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mrhender said:
Point taken :)

Maybe it was just a "dream" of some drama that could alter later stages :)

Sorry for sounding harsh on you. It's just pictures aren't usually great to follow up I think.

They just show one minute moment. I've been going over that in history classes about propaganda* and use of pictures that don't portray any truth ) so I guess that's why I jumped about your post :p
 
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Vino's Mum said:
Really, it's a nothing story. He takes the time penalty and the team pays the fines.

The end.
It actually should be a HUGE story. There is a time penalty? I haven't heard of any penalties handed out, do they keep them secret? I searched for the cheating incident 2 days ago on tourmalet where sky did the same thing... Cheating is cheating, Chris Froome is a cheater, and team sky performed unorganized, pre meditated cheating by having Team Sky people handing out food and drinks at illegal parts of the climb. Makes us wonder what is in those drinks too.
 
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Gloin22 said:
Sorry for sounding harsh on you. It's just pictures aren't usually great to follow up I think.

They just show one minute moment. I've been going over that in history classes about propaganda* and use of pictures that don't portray any truth ) so I guess that's why I jumped about your post :p

Non taken.. I agree that my "analasys" wasn't the most probable..

And true that pictures show no truth in theme selves..

But the great thing here is that it is anyones right to interprete and have hopes even if they have little probability :)
 
scshout said:
It actually should be a HUGE story. There is a time penalty? I haven't heard of any penalties handed out, do they keep them secret? I searched for the cheating incident 2 days ago on tourmalet where sky did the same thing... Cheating is cheating, Chris Froome is a cheater, and team sky performed unorganized, pre meditated cheating by having Team Sky people handing out food and drinks at illegal parts of the climb. Makes us wonder what is in those drinks too.
An off-side pass is against the rules in football, but you
aren't shown a red card for it and it would be silly to call
a team that made an off-side pass "cheaters." Same thing
here, and also the 20 second penalty was posted in a
cyclingnews.com story long before you made your post.
 
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sagard said:
Did Quintana ever acknowledge and agree to work with Froome? If so pretty weak on Froome. However if Froome drops back to beg and just gets the stoneface, really anything goes at that point.

Quintana looks fantastic. Hard to believe he won't keep taking time the last two stages, leaving the entire race decided by the TTs.

obviously he did otherwise I wouldn't be telling this and it was also obvious to see if you watched the stage. that's one of the reasons why quintana went full as soon as he noticed froome crying
 
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scshout said:
It actually should be a HUGE story. There is a time penalty? I haven't heard of any penalties handed out, do they keep them secret? .


No secret, there's a communique issued after every stage detailing medical reports, penalties, etc. I only looked at a couple of recent stages but found 4 riders with time penalties including Anton and Rolland.


Pete
 

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