: 2013 Tour de France, stage 19: Bourg-d'Oisans / Le Grand-Bornand, 203.5km

[Hugo87]

Rui Costa double today?

But Nieve should be the strongest man on the break.

 

[ILovecycling]

Saxo wants Rolland to win a stage or what?Why are they riding so slow

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Rui Costa double today?

But Nieve should be the strongest man on the break.

serpa is the strongest from that group

 

[Pulpstar]

Rolland wanting to go alone is dumb.. He needs a partner to conserve some energy

I'm not sure he wants to go alone, but Hesjedal is cooked and the chase grp is catching. He wants KoM so he has to ...

 

[Ferminal]

Rolland wanting to go alone is dumb.. He needs a partner to conserve some energy

Just going for points I think, doubt he can win the stage if any one of the big names behind are good.

 

[GroupDK]

Saxo fail tactics lol.

Saxo trying to save team GC? Wouldn't protecting 2nd in GC be much better?

many seem to forget the meaning of pro cycling from a managers & team perspective.

They have 2 and 4 and 8.. come on what could they use it for..(the riders can use it, but not partically valued from a teamview)

actually nothing they are here to win, like they did 2008 & 2010.

But everyone seem to forget the point of pro cycling (sponsor time) and sofare STB the team that got most positive sponsor time of all the teams this tour (from taking initiative and breaking froome on flat, and taking the pace against peloton.

so try to look at it from a bigger perspective, its all about positive sponsortime (check some of the sites, that calculate these values) Sky hate all there negative feedback, sky's not here to ejaculate Froome's ego, but to put there sky name out there in a positive manor.


so Again, its about positive sponsortime, not about the win, when you look at it from a team & sponsorperspective.

Saxo got huge feedback and has been the positive-talk of the town this tour, and also why there sponsors these days, are agruing about WHO can get first name next year. (tinkoff tought they should, but saxo now also want more years.. )

so 2 or 4 or 8 aint something to fav partically, a team contest, is better and get on the podium as the best TDF team like they done numerous times before.

so look at it in a bigger perspective if you try to make sense of it from a team-perspective and understand there intention..

 

[The Hitch]

I doubt it. Costa wasn't making any time on Hesjedal on the Madeleinne so he probably isn't very strong today

As I recall you did the same Dekker Tifosi, La Florecita - "OMG my rider is doing really poor and will get caught by everyone" impersonation on Manse.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Well, hopefully Rolland will win the stage now.

 

[UpTheRoad]

When did Bruyneel join Saxo?

What team is in second place in the team competition?

ag2r la mondiale

LOL. They can't be riding right now to preserve the team gc. We're still in the mountains, right? Saxo is worried about it now? Who does AG2R have other than Riblon?

You have a weaker leader in 2nd place on GC, with a faltering rider in 3rd on GC (vis a vis their main rivals for the podium) yet Saxo is riding at this point? Why? Vince Lombardi is rolling over in his grave.

 

[Hugo87]

serpa is the strongest from that group

Doubt it, but let's see.

 

[ThirdWorld]

what is the saxo plan?!

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Team classification is one of the worst competitions in cycling.

Pathetic action on the road again.

 

[murali]

will rolland sit back after taking 5 moutnain pts?

 

[Parrulo]

As I recall you did the same Dekker Tifosi, La Florecita - "OMG my rider is doing really poor and will get caught by everyone" impersonation on Manse.

No, i said i thought he had gone too early considering there were still well over 5k's to the top.

Cearly overestimated the strength of the rest of the break.

But yesterday Costa said himself on his tired that he still felt tired from his efforts of the breakaway.

 

[Cyclope]

I'm not sure he wants to go alone, but Hesjedal is cooked and the chase grp is catching. He wants KoM so he has to ...

Well, hopefully Rolland will win the stage now.

He better win the stage, hes capable of doing it, with a partner until the last climb and attack after that

 

[Cimber]

LOL. They can't be riding right now to preserve the team gc. We're still in the mountains, right? Saxo is worried about it now? Who does AG2R have other than Riblon?

You have a weaker leader in 2nd place on GC, with a faltering rider in 3rd on GC (vis a vis their main rivals for the podium) yet Saxo is riding at this point? Why? Vince Lombardi is rolling over in his grave.

The main threat at the moment is Radioshack who are 3rd in the team GC and who have 3 riders in the the escape

 

[roundabout]

LOL. They can't be riding right now to preserve the team gc. We're still in the mountains, right? Saxo is worried about it now? Who does AG2R have other than Riblon?

You have a weaker leader in 2nd place on GC, with a faltering rider in 3rd on GC (vis a vis their main rivals for the podium) yet Saxo is riding at this point? Why? Vince Lombardi is rolling over in his grave.

There are 3 shacks there. So it's a net gain of about 17 minutes for them as of this point.

 

[UpTheRoad]

many seem to forget the meaning of pro cycling from a managers & team perspective.

They have a 2 and 4 and 8.. come on what could they use it for..

actually nothing they are here to win, like they did 2008 & 2010.

But everyone seem to forget the point of pro cycling (sponsor time) and sofare STB the team that got most positive sponsor time of all the teams this tour (from taking initiative and breaking froome on flat, and taking the pace against peloton.

so try to look at it from a bigger perspective, its all about positive sponsortime (check some of the sites, that calculate these values) Sky hate all there negative feedback, sky's not here to ejaculate Froome's ego, but to put there sky name out there in a positive manor.


so Again, its about positive sponsortime, not about the win, when you look at it from a team & sponsorperspective.

Saxo got huge feedback and has been the positive-talk of the town this tour, and also why there sponsors these days, are agruing about WHO can get first name next year. (tinkoff tought they should, but saxo now also want more years.. )

so 2 or 4 or 8 aint something to fav partically, a team contest, is better and get on the podium as the best TDF team like they done numerous times before.

so look at it in a bigger perspective if you try to make sense of it from a team-perspective and understand there intention..

Podium in overall GC >>>>>>> 1st place in Team GC.

 

[painai]

what is the saxo plan?!

Looks like they are chasing team now, individual GC aspirations are over, podium is probably assured, not like AC cares about 2nd or 3rd, gotta keep the sponsors happy

 

[Bavarianrider]

Armstrong, Ullrich, Landis, Klöden did the Croix Fry in 28 minutes 3 seconds in 2004.

 

[Cyclope]

Team classification is one of the worst competitions in cycling.

Pathetic action on the road again.

i enjoy it.. if not for there wouldnt be so much drama.. see the chasing groups and the riders from same team in the front groups.. 3 riders from each team would qualify for the best time of the team.. so all in all team qual adds flavor

 

[Cimber]

Podium in overall GC >>>>>>> 1st place in Team GC.

One doesnt exclude the other though

 

[Cimber]

Looks like they are chasing team now, individual GC aspirations are over, podium is probably assured, not like AC cares about 2nd or 3rd, gotta keep the sponsors happy

Tinkov isnt happy

 

[roundabout]

Le Mevel's suffering is over

 

[batchuba]

Just to make riders look stupid with those yellow helmets. God, imagine Lampre being first...

Damn that would be sexy.