2014 Tour de Suisse: Stage 8: Delémont→Verbier (219 Km)

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Hakkapelit said:
So Tonys teammates arent **** compared to ACs in Dauphine cause those were supposed to be better while these aren't, or what is it you are trying to convey?

No, I wasn't comparing them to Contadors teammates. I was just saying that neither of the OPQS-boys is a climber or of great help in the mountains. So of course they were "pathetic". And you can't expect them to perform otherwise. There was no necessity of stating the obvious. :rolleyes:
 
Mar 13, 2009
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Well they were widespread across the road in the first kilometers of the climb today.
The break even gained time. So I think it's correct

also
32 SCHLECK AndyTrek Factory Racing 2:07

Jeej Andy!
 
Aug 4, 2010
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hfer07 said:
Chavez= the next Quintana without a doubt - mark my words:cool:

He will be the next Colombian GT winner even before Uran.

OGE has a pure diamond- just hope they realize it take good care of him:)
1.worse tt,worse climbing but! better punch,in general a bit worse imo

2.I agree,true (bananito o chavito imo)

3.very true:)
 
Feb 20, 2012
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Some guys already took the time on the climb..

5 minutes slower than 2009. But they also said that the last 4km where about the same pace as Andy in 2009 (Contador still a kit faster).
Its in the first 5.5km the peloton went really slow.

Didn't they finish on a different place in the Tour? I can't remember the climb having a downhill section
 
Mar 13, 2009
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Red Rick said:
Didn't they finish on a different place in the Tour? I can't remember the climb having a downhill section

Yeah, they finished at the top of the climb (where the GPM was today). Now they finished after the top.
 
Feb 20, 2012
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Yeah, they finished at the top of the climb (where the GPM was today). Now they finished after the top.

Well that ****s up the whole calculation
 
Sep 8, 2009
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no, it was the same finish spot but they took a walk in verbier today, extra 1,5 kms or something of flat. can't compare it to 2009 because it wasn't same exact route
but it was obvious they went very slow at the beginning because the breakaway guy was putting time to the peloton lol. then bjorn thurau attacks, new charly gaul...
it was a joke of a fight
 
Sep 9, 2012
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
No, because the calculation was done up until the GPM
Duh. :eek:

jens_attacks said:
no, it was the same finish spot but they took a walk in verbier today, extra 1,5 kms or something of flat. can't compare it to 2009 because it wasn't same exact route
If that's the case it still ****s up the calculation
 
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If Mollema is going to lead the Belkin team in TdF, he might not even crack top-10 with this kind of ride
 
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Waterloo Sunrise said:
And together they put 15 seconds in to \Tony Martin...

who was climbing at a level he showed 5 years ago....

Tony Martin wasn't always an awful climber you know
 
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Tony's always been able to be competent on grinds when he has something worth riding for. It doesn't make him a world class benchmark.

Anyway, meh. Dull route and dull field this year.
 
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Yes Tony was impressive today, but he still has tomorrow. I'm really hoping the true climbers light things up. Tomorrow has the potential to be way more selective. Potential....who knows if it will really happen. Congrats to Orica....they've had a pretty good season so far.
 
Jun 3, 2012
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Parrulo said:
Really? Even worse than i thought :eek:

In 2012 with the rain and with a tougher stage they were only 1 minute slower than Contador.

Of course, the peloton was around quite a bit in the first couple of K's.
 
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Between we have been talking about Costa's terrible day, yet he still finished in front of the better, pure climber, Mathias Frank.

How about that :rolleyes:
 
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Parrulo said:
Between we have been talking about Costa's terrible day, yet he still finished in front of the better, pure climber, Mathias Frank.

How about that :rolleyes:

And the amazing works of Rafael Valls. (unfairly Cattaneo took all the credit because both the Belgian and English commentators had it wrong)
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
And the amazing works of Rafael Valls. (unfairly Cattaneo took all the credit because both the Belgian and English commentators had it wrong)
It's great to see Valls riding so well. When he rode the Tour with Footon he made an awesome attack on Pailheres (?) going after Sastre, really well done that day!