2015, 69th Tour de Romandie: April 28 to May 3 (WT)

[del1962]

So Zakarin and Pinot both exactly the same ITT in Pais Vasco a minute down, while no two Time Trials are the same Froome should take this, Spilak may be his biggest threat.

 

[qwer]

froome has 2 peaks, first in ruta del sol to beat contador and the second in the tour de france

 

[Eagle]

Why do people always come to ridiculous conclusions based on one day of racing, when none of these riders are targeting this race

 

[qwer]

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Beautiful win, big balls!
Congrats to Zakarin also, hope he can show us more!


Im a bit sad about Quintana, he could attack, he had legs even for sprint (and he's worse sprinter than AC )

sorry but quintana was in trouble with the pace of froome, he can't attack froomie

ohh cmon quintana had better legs than froome you could see that from his attacks and final 'sprint'
Froome won't outclimb him at Tour, no way

Quintana usually attacks if he can,no way he was feeling too great today.Froome has better acceleration,if in decent form will drop Quintana in TDF,you'll see

completely agree, only contador can win against froome

 

[Eagle]

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So Zakarin and Pinot both exactly the same ITT in Pais Vasco a minute down, while no two Time Trials are the same Froome should take this, Spilak may be his biggest threat.

Dont think you can use that TT as a comparison, with that crazy hill at the end.

The only other TT Zakarin has done this year was at San Luis, where he finished 6th, 33s down on Malori
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=27186

 

[Velolover2]

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froome has 2 peaks, first in ruta del sol to beat contador and the second in the tour de france

He used to have about 4. One for the early race. One for Tirreno–Adriatico. One for Romandie. One for Dauphine+Tour. He looks a lot weaker this year, but he can still win of course. Maybe the other teams are just riding smarter than they used to,

 

[Eagle]

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Yeah, and Porte has to be tried from the Giro. At least they could have saved Nieve and Kiry. Poels is going to be the last man standing for Froome given Henao's unpredictable nature.

Henao's unpredictable nature???

He is an attacker, not a pacer.

Froome doesn't really need a pacer though

 

[bigcog]

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I think Froome is as strong as the last couple of years. The other teams were just riding WAY smarter and Sky was pretty weak. If this is Froome's TDF team, he is going to be grilled.

Why the hell would you send Nieve and Kiryienka to the Giro instead of the Tour? Roche is overrated and the rest are not climbers. And a guy like Henao doesn't belong in a train. He is a pure attacker.

Henao, Poels and Porte will be there for the tour, Kennaugh and G will be stronger too, Froome looked strong pulling the bunch

Still not enough IMO especially not with a tired Porte. But let's see how the other teams look like.

What's full giro team ?

Porte, König, Nieve, Lopez, Kiry, Sivtsov, Henao Jr. Puccio, Viviani. Their Giro team is going to be stronger than their Tour team.

Jesus, you aint kidding, I'd have taken Porte, Konig, Nieve, Lopez, Kiry and Sivtsov to the tour. Probably the GB factor, got take so many Brits to tour ...

 

[SeriousSam]

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Froome was Fu%%ed at the end. He gave it his all," Respect" He has no chance of winning the tour on that form or Quintana for that matter.
This is all good news for King Bertie . He would have rode away from all of them today and quite easy.

You must have said something very similar the day before that fateful stage 4 of the Ruta del Sol.

 

[Velolover2]

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Yeah, and Porte has to be tried from the Giro. At least they could have saved Nieve and Kiry. Poels is going to be the last man standing for Froome given Henao's unpredictable nature.

Henao's unpredictable nature???

He is an attacker, not a pacer.

Froome doesn't really need a pacer though

I don't agree with that. Having a pacer like fresh Porte (look at the 2013 Tour) would certainly help him. Not that he can't win without one of course.

 

[ILovecycling]

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Beautiful win, big balls!
Congrats to Zakarin also, hope he can show us more!


Im a bit sad about Quintana, he could attack, he had legs even for sprint (and he's worse sprinter than AC )

sorry but quintana was in trouble with the pace of froome, he can't attack froomie

ohh cmon quintana had better legs than froome you could see that from his attacks and final 'sprint'
Froome won't outclimb him at Tour, no way

He did a couple of accelerations which he couldn't sustain and then sprinted after not doing anything.

How you were able to conclude from that that he had better legs than a guy who pulled the most out of the favorites on the climb is beyond me.

I know that because Quintana never does this, he was testing his legs, thats why I dont like it - because he didnt go full gas - Froome went.CF couldnt sustain pace in that sprint (and he is a lot better sprinter than Quintana!)

 

[roundabout]

Ah, so Quintana was better, but he generously decided not to bother doing anything despite setting his team to work for most of the day.

And damn *** right that Froome couldn't do anything in the sprint against people who sat on his wheel in the last 3 km.

 

[DBotero]

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Beautiful win, big balls!
Congrats to Zakarin also, hope he can show us more!


Im a bit sad about Quintana, he could attack, he had legs even for sprint (and he's worse sprinter than AC )

sorry but quintana was in trouble with the pace of froome, he can't attack froomie

ohh cmon quintana had better legs than froome you could see that from his attacks and final 'sprint'
Froome won't outclimb him at Tour, no way

He did a couple of accelerations which he couldn't sustain and then sprinted after not doing anything.

How you were able to conclude from that that he had better legs than a guy who pulled the most out of the favorites on the climb is beyond me.

I know that because Quintana never does this, he was testing his legs, thats why I dont like it - because he didnt go full gas - Froome went.CF couldnt sustain pace in that sprint (and he is a lot better sprinter than Quintana!)

So Froome told you he was going full gas

 

[Velolover2]

Nice to see that Majka is getting a lot better. Looked very comfortable in the Froome group. He should be there among the final 10 in the climbs of the Tour.

 

[Miburo]

Great ride from froome, love that guy.

Nibali once again...

 

[TMP402]

The Froome yo-yo/time-trialing his way up mountains thing seems to have developed because his team was so tired and unprepared in the Vuelta. He didn't follow this tactic when he had a team dedicated to supporting him in 2013, and he ought to be able to go back to his old style of racing. The yo-yoing thing is only good for races like this when he prevented attacks by Quintana etc, and had a small loss of time to Pinot, which on paper he should overcome tomorrow. But it's not really a winning style. He needs to read Dave Brailsford the riot act over his probable team for the Tour, so that he doesn't need to keep with this tactic. Last year's Tour team was laughably poor apart from Porte and Nieve.

 

[huge]

There is no way that today Quintana held it back. He just couldn't attack when CF was setting the pace. If he had more in his tank, he would have given it a go. No doubts about that. Saying that this was just a training ride for him is meaningless.

 

[ray j willings]

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froome has 2 peaks, first in ruta del sol to beat contador and the second in the tour de france

You forgot to mention the stage the day before where Bertie dropped froome with ease and you also forgot the ITT where Bertie beat Froome as well
The stage Froome won Bertie was not right.
If Bertie had not eased up on his mountain stage win then Froome would not have won the overall.

Get your facts right mate, stop dreaming ....No one can touch Bertie when his game is on.
Vuelta last year Bertie toyed with Froome and Bertie was not on his best form.

Why do you think Froome changed his mind about riding the Giro this year. When the tour route was announced Froome said it was to mountainous and he may ride the Giro instead. Once he knew Bertie was riding the Giro he switched to the tour because he knows he will have a better chance to win a big GT and Bertie will be tired going into the tour.

Froome is a chicken or he would ride the Giro and Tour like Bertie.....cluck cluck cluck

 

[ILovecycling]

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Congrats to Zakarin also, hope he can show us more!


Im a bit sad about Quintana, he could attack, he had legs even for sprint (and he's worse sprinter than AC )

sorry but quintana was in trouble with the pace of froome, he can't attack froomie

ohh cmon quintana had better legs than froome you could see that from his attacks and final 'sprint'
Froome won't outclimb him at Tour, no way

He did a couple of accelerations which he couldn't sustain and then sprinted after not doing anything.

How you were able to conclude from that that he had better legs than a guy who pulled the most out of the favorites on the climb is beyond me.

I know that because Quintana never does this, he was testing his legs, thats why I dont like it - because he didnt go full gas - Froome went.CF couldnt sustain pace in that sprint (and he is a lot better sprinter than Quintana!)

So Froome told you he was going full gas [/quote]
Of course he is fighting for winning TdR lol rolleyes:

 

[Velolover2]

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Great ride from froome, love that guy.

Nibali once again...

I feel a little bad for Scarponi. He looked like he could have stayed with the Froome group but had to pull for Nibali.

 

[ILovecycling]

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quote="DBotero"]

[quote="

Congrats to Zakarin also, hope he can show us more!


Im a bit sad about Quintana, he could attack, he had legs even for sprint (and he's worse sprinter than AC )

sorry but quintana was in trouble with the pace of froome, he can't attack froomie

ohh cmon quintana had better legs than froome you could see that from his attacks and final 'sprint'
Froome won't outclimb him at Tour, no way

He did a couple of accelerations which he couldn't sustain and then sprinted after not doing anything.

How you were able to conclude from that that he had better legs than a guy who pulled the most out of the favorites on the climb is beyond me.

I know that because Quintana never does this, he was testing his legs, thats why I dont like it - because he didnt go full gas - Froome went.CF couldnt sustain pace in that sprint (and he is a lot better sprinter than Quintana!)[/quote]

So Froome told you he was going full gas [/quote]


Of course he is fighting for winning TdR lol rolleyes:[/quote]

 

[HelloDolly]

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Yeah, and Porte has to be tried from the Giro. At least they could have saved Nieve and Kiry. Poels is going to be the last man standing for Froome given Henao's unpredictable nature.

Henao's unpredictable nature???

He is an attacker, not a pacer.

Froome doesn't really need a pacer though

I don't agree with that. Having a pacer like fresh Porte (look at the 2013 Tour) would certainly help him. Not that he can't win without one of course.

IN fairness SKY are suffering injury (better now than later) ..Poels with shoulder op, Kennaugh with hip problem & Roche had very bad crash last Sunday & struggled all week...
As for Thomas he is knackered

SKY may have to re gig thing a bit though ...Kiri & Nieve maybe shud be kept fresh for Tour
Porte will be there too for Foome

But at 7km to go today it was man o man and most teams had just one rider ...If you ahve to pull Froome to the end well then you surley could do it yourself..so all this lamenting the team is a bit rich ...Nibs had Scarponi and it made no difference

Froome can and will do it himself towards the end on MTF anyway

 

[bigcog]

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froome has 2 peaks, first in ruta del sol to beat contador and the second in the tour de france

You forgot to mention the stage the day before where Bertie dropped froome with ease and you also forgot the ITT where Bertie beat Froome as well
The stage Froome won Bertie was not right.
If Bertie had not eased up on his mountain stage win then Froome would not have won the overall.

Get your facts right mate, stop dreaming ....No one can touch Bertie when his game is on.
Vuelta last year Bertie toyed with Froome and Bertie was not on his best form.

Why do you think Froome changed his mind about riding the Giro this year. When the tour route was announced Froome said it was to mountainous and he may ride the Giro instead. Once he knew Bertie was riding the Giro he switched to the tour because he knows he will have a better chance to win a big GT and Bertie will be tired going into the tour.

Froome is a chicken or he would ride the Giro and Tour like Bertie.....cluck cluck cluck

Froome knows being au natural that it's not possible to do well in both, cluck cluck my a**, one thing he's not is chicken.

 

[roundabout]

With just 1 guy extra, he wouldn't have started the climb almost last

 

[Cance > TheRest]

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froome has 2 peaks, first in ruta del sol to beat contador and the second in the tour de france

You forgot to mention the stage the day before where Bertie dropped froome with ease and you also forgot the ITT where Bertie beat Froome as well
The stage Froome won Bertie was not right.
If Bertie had not eased up on his mountain stage win then Froome would not have won the overall.

Get your facts right mate, stop dreaming ....No one can touch Bertie when his game is on.
Vuelta last year Bertie toyed with Froome and Bertie was not on his best form.

Why do you think Froome changed his mind about riding the Giro this year. When the tour route was announced Froome said it was to mountainous and he may ride the Giro instead. Once he knew Bertie was riding the Giro he switched to the tour because he knows he will have a better chance to win a big GT and Bertie will be tired going into the tour.

Froome is a chicken or he would ride the Giro and Tour like Bertie.....cluck cluck cluck

Froome knows being au natural that it's not possible to do well in both, cluck cluck my a**, one thing he's not is chicken.

NO TROLLS please. But seriously I just think Froome doesn't see the prestige in trying to win the Giro, since all UK residents care about the Tour. Also Froome and AC was probably on similar form last year in the Vuelta.