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2015 Giro d'Italia, Stage 13: Montecchio Maggiore - Jesolo

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LaFlorecita said:
ILovecycling said:
Arredondo said:
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Kwibus said:
Ofcourse it's not. It's only a big deal who care about useless statistics.
It was a fun statistic and now it's gone. That's all. I care more about if he is in good health so he can keep his focus on the big goal for this year. The double, far more important.
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Alberto himself cared about it too, and he even said he doesn't give a crap about record books, so it was clearly something special.
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If you don't give about record books, why would you give something about a statistic like that? :confused:

Winner of the double, in a time when it's considered impossible to do. That's something really unique.
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ask hitch and flo ;) :eek:

I really dont understand why anybody would care about that 'record'
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Because it shows what a great GT specialist he is when he's on the defensive. You WILL NOT take the jersey from him unless you can wrestle it out of his dead arms. We can't say that anymore. It is something that made him special and different from other multiple GT winners and it's sad it's gone.
& the 17 stage streak is gone too
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Ofcourse you can still say that. The only time he lost the jersey was because he crashed and nr.2 didnt.

They didn't ride him out of the leader jersey. They had to crash him to get him out of the jersey. Ofcourse 'they as in astana' didnt really crash him, but you get it.
 
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2.999 km from finish everybody gets the same time but 3.3 km & its everyman for himself. Ironic. Rules Rules
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I remember when there was no km out rule. First they made it one, now it is three.
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I liked it better then.

All these rules just make for more discussion..
It's just as F1, too many rules make the sport dead and boring
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Well, you can now have your say. :p

http://gpda.motorsport.com
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Carols said:
IndianCyclist said:
2.999 km from finish everybody gets the same time but 3.3 km & its everyman for himself. Ironic. Rules Rules
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I remember when there was no km out rule. First they made it one, now it is three.
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I liked it better then.

All these rules just make for more discussion..
It's just as F1, too many rules make the sport dead and boring
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Well there weren't multiple sprint trains in those days. There sure were some heart rending losses of the jersey though followed by plenty of discussion!
 
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Yea you can fleur, unless you talk with a 5 year old, you can still make that argument.
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uh no :rolleyes:
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I guess you're the 5 year old then.
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How can I still make the argument? I can't just say "he's never lost the lead" because that's not true. :rolleyes:
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Flo, this 'record' is mainly a thing of good luck.Just count how many times he was seconds off giving this jersey away,with all those breakaways,mechanicals, falls,weather its mainly luck.
This is not a proper record.It doesnt say how good he is in comparison with other GT legends.
 
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LaFlorecita said:
Miburo said:
"He never lost the lead despite that one GT where he dislocated his shoulder twice and despite that he still held off a very strong team until he lost the jersey cause of crash in a flat stage at 3.3km. But the next day he got it back crushing the ITT"

If no one understandS that point, then you're discussing with really dumb people hence your fault for even trying to debate with them.
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Of course, but I don't like arguments like that. If if if but but but. It's stupid.
However if he wins we can still say "In every GT he took the lead, he won the overall" but that just doesn't sound as good :(
And I'm sad he won't get the 17 stage streak :(
And I'm sad he won't ride the TT in pink :(
To summarize, I am sad :( :p
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There is no single 'if' in Miburo's explanation as to why contador lost the jersey that one time in a GT.

I rather had him in pink tomorrow as well. Too bad, this statistic is worth nothing and probably not something that wouldve been mentioned much either.
 
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Just saying (I like contador and Aru both are aggressive and will animate a race)
Think Arus one day in pink is kind of deserved ?
He is the only one who has had the balls to attack contador and with his whole super team.
Think he will loose it tomorrow but hey ho that's cycling for u, unpredictable and that's why we all enjoy it?
 
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I thought Contador lost the jersey to Andy Schleck

Why must this forum be full (no matter the thread) of the same few obsessing about Contador...My guess is if he met some of you he would run a mile...seriously scary
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He's just the most popular cyclist right now. Deal with it :cool:
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Nothing wrong with Contador being popular or a great cyclist ... I agree with both of these
But you have to deal with the the fact of spending everyday obsessing about his every tiny move is a seriously unhealthy past time

Plus there is no space (not physical) to discuss any other rider when as I said the same few hog every thread with the same discussion
 
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I'm a bit worried about Bertie. He has never regained a leader's jersey in a GT before. Does he have the gumption? The will power? Can he overcome his frustration and disappointment? Or will he wilt and fade away as when the White thorn blows?
 
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Jagartrott said:
HelloDolly said:
Why must this forum be full (no matter the thread) of the same few obsessing about Contador...My guess is if he met some of you he would run a mile...seriously scary
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Contador thread has 26000 replies. That's a bit obsessive alright.
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Do you know the wikipedia game where you always click a link and see where you end up, well, if its at least 10 steps from being associated to Contador, it belongs in that thread alright.
 
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carton said:
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wow.. Porte is just falling apart now. For someone who said that his team mate is ready to rally and gain time after loosing time, now he didn't even honoring his team by gave up today??
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He was on Kirienka's bike where the seat height was way too high for him. Piss poor or panic decision by team post crash ..... quite possibly. Certainly SKY looking shabby in comparison to TS reaction with Bertie. Did Porte think he was within the 3km .... possibly, will have to wait to hear from him.

Someone asked re Konig; it looked like he rode in somewhat ahead of Porte.
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Konig was on Puccio's bike which was also too big for him. Contador was on Tossato's bike, too big for him as well. Both of them managed to push it a little harder than Porte. I do think there was a little frustration there.
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Contador was on Juul-Jensen's bike.
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So definitely Tossato's: https://twitter.com/albertocontador/status/601798556090048512.
 
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A grey rider caused the crash. It has to be one of the Southeast riders.
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No. Here's what happened; Trek's Alifaci was on the front, and pulled off, and another Trek takes over (don't know who; van Poppel, Coledan, Silvestre?), followed by Nizzolo (Trek). That Trek guy then starts constantly looking over his shoulders. And instead of taking a good, straight pull, he zig-zags all over the road!

He starts on the far left of the road, then drags the field to the far right side. He was slow enough that a swarm of 10-12 riders started moving up on the left side. Then, still on the front (with Nizzolo still on his wheel), and with the road slightly curving to the right, the Trek guy drifts back to the left and the swarm coming up on the left get squeezed.

A LottoJumbo rider brakes hard (either wheel clip, or to avoid the hedge), but manages to stay up and sprints to regain speed. But his sudden braking brings down a Southeast teammate of Petacchi's, and right behind him was a Trek (Alifaci) who fell the hardest, and fractured his elbow.

Then, the Trek guy drifts BACK to the right side, and gets overtaken by other trains, starting with Giant.
 
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