2015 Giro, St. 6: Montecatini – Castiglione della Pescaia

[meat puppet]

yeah yeah yeah crashes bad mkay, but seriously, twitter vigilanteism to get someone sued is really lame (if such tweets indeed were made)

 

[Kwibus]

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I was thinking it in the last 3km. Why the hell can't they fix the timing of GC at the 3km? What's the point?

Like seriously what's the point? His giro is over.

Saying this for years and change the distance to 10km.

Everyone that that drops back within 10km from the finish gets the same time as the bunch. Let the sprint teams fight it out in the last 10km without gc teams interfering.

10 km is fine too, i don't see why they wouldn't do this. It's just ridiculous.

Indeed . What's the point of keeping this rule in a pancake flat stage...
Just put it at 10km from the finish on a stage like this. Im sure every cyclist would agree. Climbers, sprinters, attackers etc.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Abandon???????

he has just a hit on the elbow, Carlos Sastre and the spanisk journalist said he looks ok.

At the begining is normal you have some problems and take care about any hit, but he is ok to ride and to sleep tonight

Do you have freaking xray vision???

 

[Taxus4a]

if he has something more serius..would be just a problem till first rest day, never after.

People here is getting mad just to see him on the podium... it is normal some problems when a hit is warm.

Most of rifers fall and hit in the first weeks, and used to be a probem when is far to the finish line, you have to catch hurt and do lot of km in that situation... but now Alberto can heal and rest, no problem

 

[Volderke]

Assault? Colli takes too many risks.
Ruffoni closed the gap between him and the barriers. Colli should have hit his brakes. There was like 0 inches / centimeters to pass Ruffoni, and you know what, spectators are what they are, looking at the race and not having superman reflexes. So try to avoid them, but don't blame them for being there. Cycling is a spectator sport, and if you want to change anything, you should start with putting two lines of barriers as an organizer.

I wonder who cannot put himself in the place of the guy with the camera. It's not that his camera was sticking out in the middle of the arrivée. It was not like the police guy in 1993 who hit Wilfried Nelissen (and caused Jalabert to crash, too). It was a random spectator who dit nothing wrong in particular.

 

[Taxus4a]

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Abandon???????

he has just a hit on the elbow, Carlos Sastre and the spanisk journalist said he looks ok.

At the begining is normal you have some problems and take care about any hit, but he is ok to ride and to sleep tonight

Do you have freaking xray vision???

He was on the bike just after the crash and wit relaxed face..and Carlos Sastre and Amat said he looked OK.

Dont be hystericals, he has nothing important.

 

[WheelofGear]

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Even if nothing is broken, it could still affect his chances for the overall. If he is not feeling great, he is going to lose a lot of time.

 

[Amsterhammer]

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Abandon???????

he has just a hit on the elbow, Carlos Sastre and the spanisk journalist said he looks ok.

At the begining is normal you have some problems and take care about any hit, but he is ok to ride and to sleep tonight

Do you have freaking xray vision???

He was on the bike just after the crash and wit relaxed face..and Carlos Sastre and Amat said he looked OK.

Dont be hystericals, he has nothing important.

He did not "look ok" before he went onto the podium, and he did not "look ok" while he was on the podium. No hysteria at all.

 

[mrhender]

Dislocated shoulder reported by EDU PIDAL Twitter

 

[carton]

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Assault? Colli takes too many risks.
Ruffoni closed the gap between him and the barriers. Colli should have hit his brakes. There was like 0 inches / centimeters to pass Ruffoni, and you know what, spectators are what they are, looking at the race and not having superman reflexes. So try to avoid them, but don't blame them for being there. Cycling is a spectator sport, and if you want to change anything, you should start with putting two lines of barriers as an organizer.

I wonder who cannot put himself in the place of the guy with the camera. It's not that his camera was sticking out in the middle of the arrivée. It was not like the police guy in 1993 who hit Wilfried Nelissen (and caused Jalabert to crash, too). It was a random spectator who dit nothing wrong in particular.

Completely agree that the spectator-bashing is being taken too far. But disagree about Colli and Ruffoni - Ruffoni closed a gap that wasn't there. Yeah, brushing the barriers is a very risky place to be, but pro cyclists do it all the time. Colli barely had a lane when Ruffoni hit him, but he did and was right astride him when it happened. Ruffoni either tried to close off Colli too late or was just careless.

 

[Taxus4a]

Acxcording Jacinto vidarte he has pain in left knee and shouder.

 

[Taxus4a]

If he has a luxation that is something, We will see.

 

[damian13ster]

Man, what is your deal?
THe crash would have happened without a spectator and pretty sure its the fall and not the camera that broke the arm.
You can't sue anyone over that. Or are you a kind of guy that sues the homeowner because you fell on the sidewalk next to his house?

 

[Netserk]

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Man, what is your deal?
THe crash would have happened without a spectator and pretty sure its the fall and not the camera that broke the arm.
You can't sue anyone over that. Or are you a kind of guy that sues the homeowner because you fell on the sidewalk next to his house?

If there's ice, yes ofc. House owner is responsible that there isn't any ice on the sidewalk.

 

[willbick]

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I was thinking it in the last 3km. Why the hell can't they fix the timing of GC at the 3km? What's the point?

Like seriously what's the point? His giro is over.

Saying this for years and change the distance to 10km.

Everyone that that drops back within 10km from the finish gets the same time as the bunch. Let the sprint teams fight it out in the last 10km without gc teams interfering.

10 km is fine too, i don't see why they wouldn't do this. It's just ridiculous.

They will never do this because it takes away from the spectacle of the finale. The spectacle of the product is everything, rider safety is a long way down the priority list

 

[shalgo]

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These pictures alone are enough for a lawsuit against the cameraman.

It was bad enough to see that during the live coverage, but to have to come upon it here too--please remove that horrifying image.

 

[Eshnar]

we don't need that image thanks.

 

[damian13ster]

It is often impossible to clear all of it. Just watch your goddamn feet, don't try to pass a guy when sprinting when there is 5cm of space and those things won't happen.
Cameraman is not at fault here. He wasn't a cause. Of course he should be in different spot but he didn't create the accident or injured anyone.

 

[Dedelou]

After rding the course of the 9th stage and watching the reruns of the finish today.. my heart is aching for Alberto and the other who crashed hard , perhaps killing their chance to continue the giro or worse for some. I can't help raging, as a fan who has watched races for over 60 years witnessing time after time the idiocies of selfish supporter who don't have the "f#$%king decency to realize their actions are a threat to the very people they come to cheer.. I know , i know i am preaching .. to the wind. My way to let out steam rather than act like an A#$$le on the side of the road, like so many around me.
My hope for Alberto to be back tomorrow and to answer with his legs what he feels about today

 

[Carols]

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Sprint finishes shouldnt even be in cycling. Biggest waste of time. Go to the track

I agree.....never liked them!!!

 

[Arredondo]

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we don't need that image thanks.

Which images?

 

[WheelofGear]

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It is often impossible to clear all of it. Just watch your goddamn feet, don't try to pass a guy when sprinting when there is 5cm of space and those things won't happen.
Cameraman is not at fault here. He wasn't a cause. Of course he should be in different spot but he didn't create the accident or injured anyone.

Are you one of these idiotic fratboy spectators who takes your shirt off and run with the riders? Your apologism makes you sound like one.

 

[Taxus4a]

Theatre again with his real lesion or true?. You never know with him. If he is not ok, he has a good option to get ready for the Tour, and do double Tour-Vuelta...and alow Kreuziger to be the leader, bepcouse ha has showed at the level of the best. if he is OK, he can lose time this weekend for the crash, but no excuses for later after the rest day.

 

[Pricey_sky]

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we don't need that image thanks.

Which images?

I think someone posted a picture of the horrific broken arm suffered by the rider.

 

[SeriousSam]

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Theatre again with his real lesion or true?. You never know with him. If he is not ok, he has a good option to get ready for the Tour, and do double Tour-Vuelta...and alow Kreuziger to be the leader, bepcouse ha has showed at the level of the best. if he is OK, he can lose time this weekend for the crash, but no excuses for later after the rest day.

You seem extremely concerned that people are going to use this crash to try and claim it was the reason Contador wasn't at his best, should that be the case.

But you're simply wrong. There is a reason the odds he's winning the Giro have plummeted. That reason is not that there will be "no excuses after the rest day".

I mean, take Froome. One Crash and his climbing approaches that of Marcel Kittel. Crashes lower peak performance even when benign.