2015 Vuelta stage 2: Alhaurín de la Torre / Caminito del Rey

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PremierAndrew said:
Arredondo said:
DBotero said:
Fully deserved win for Chavez :) Big fail for Valverde and J.Rod,didn't expected such a poor showing :(

Poor? Purito was the strongest today. Drops Bala by 5 seconds.

They just looked at each other way too long.

Fail from katusha to not get Moreno away with Roche Quintana Chaves and Dumoulin though

Indeed, or to let Moreno just ride full gas to remain in striking distance. But Moreno, as often, plays a dubious role in the final.
 
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BigMac said:
DFA123 said:
Arredondo said:
DBotero said:
Fully deserved win for Chavez :) Big fail for Valverde and J.Rod,didn't expected such a poor showing :(

Poor? Purito was the strongest today. Drops Bala by 5 seconds.

They just looked at each other way too long.

Bala couldn't attack with Quintana up the road.

Yet Purito still finished ahead of him, which means Purito was stronger.

Top notch ride by Dumoulin.

In that case it was a fail by Purito; he should have attacked earlier and he could have won the stage. If he was looking at Valverde to attack first that was pretty stupid considering that Quintana was up the road.
 
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DFA123 said:
Looks to me like Quintana is here as a domestique to Valverde. No way he would have been sent up the road so early in the race if he was leader. Unfortunately for Bala, non of the other favourites had the power to close Nairo down.

Strange stage.

Very strange finish. Great win by Chaves and Dumoulin really impressed. Martin just missing the bus again. At least I got that right :eek:

You can't make any predictions from this. Only a handful of seconds between JRod, Nairo, Froome and Bala in the end. Only Katusha really had an incentive to chase, since Roche was up the road. So I would guess that Froome is the happiest of the traditional GC favourites.
 
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Arredondo said:
DBotero said:
Fully deserved win for Chavez :) Big fail for Valverde and J.Rod,didn't expected such a poor showing :(

Poor? Purito was the strongest today. Drops Bala by 5 seconds.

They just looked at each other way too long.

Come on,they should win these type of stages,always.They need to go all in if they want to win this Vuelta.
 
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DFA123 said:
BigMac said:
DFA123 said:
Arredondo said:
DBotero said:
Fully deserved win for Chavez :) Big fail for Valverde and J.Rod,didn't expected such a poor showing :(

Poor? Purito was the strongest today. Drops Bala by 5 seconds.

They just looked at each other way too long.

Bala couldn't attack with Quintana up the road.

Yet Purito still finished ahead of him, which means Purito was stronger.

Top notch ride by Dumoulin.

In that case it was a fail by Purito; he should have attacked earlier and he could have won the stage. If he was looking at Valverde to attack first that was pretty stupid considering that Quintana was up the road.

If he attacks earlier, Bala has got the chance to come back. It's all about timing and measuring your efforts. You have to know that.

The only fault by Katusha is not letting Dani Moreno be up there in the Chaves group. But it's normal that there's a little of doubt between the big guys on the first day of a GT, concerning the legs.
 
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I think Froome needed to take time here to start building his bulwark against Quintana on stages like the Andorra one.
 
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where is Henao ?!?

so things are pretty clear for Sky now, Froome is the sole leader with Roche free wolf to make his own GC.

After this stage i think Vuelta is between Purito, Valverde and Froome. With 39km ITT i think Froome is the favorite now.
 
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"Is Esteban Chaves the best of the young Colombian climbers?"

He's older than Quintana...
 
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BigMac said:
Portuguese Eurosport commies, ''Chaves' first big win''.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I guess that depends how you define "big win". You could certainly argue that this is his first big win.
 
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DBotero said:
Arredondo said:
DBotero said:
Fully deserved win for Chavez :) Big fail for Valverde and J.Rod,didn't expected such a poor showing :(

Poor? Purito was the strongest today. Drops Bala by 5 seconds.

They just looked at each other way too long.

Come on,they should win these type of stages,always.They need to go all in if they want to win this Vuelta.

Cyclists are not automated machines. Everything's easier said than done.
 
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Not sure why some here are so surprised about how the finale panned out. This is exactly what happened in 2013 in the 2nd stage when Purito and Valverde were not willing to do an effort longer than 500m so a 2nd tier guy took the win.
 
Chaves' 2 year deal with OGE finishes end of 2015. His TT is such that it's unlikely he'll ever make a serious GC contender for GT but he has proven a capacity to win at WT level & now GT stage.

Whilst he has seemed to have gelled very well with the overall team atmosphere & vibe; it will be interesting to see whether he may look elsewhere. Today's result certainly wouldn't do him any harm either way. In many ways, he MAY be best served staying where he is but who knows ?
 
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DBotero said:
Arredondo said:
DBotero said:
Fully deserved win for Chavez :) Big fail for Valverde and J.Rod,didn't expected such a poor showing :(

Poor? Purito was the strongest today. Drops Bala by 5 seconds.

They just looked at each other way too long.

Come on,they should win these type of stages,always.They need to go all in if they want to win this Vuelta.

I'm not saying it's not a wasted chance. If you mean it's a poor showing in terms of tactics, then yes. But based on form, they both showed good form. Especially Purito.
 
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Hugo Koblet said:
BigMac said:
Portuguese Eurosport commies, ''Chaves' first big win''.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I guess that depends how you definte "big win". You could certainly argue that this is his first big win.

They meant it in terms of importance/on the big stage.
 
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TMP402 said:
I think Froome needed to take time here to start building his bulwark against Quintana on stages like the Andorra one.

he has a long ITT for that.

also i don't think Quintana is riding GC, stage wins and Valverde domestique.