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Quintana would have lost anyway, but Zakarin's relegation was the right decision according to the rules and his own unnecessary stupidity. If Quintana complained to the judges then he did the right thing. Plus bonus points count too.
 
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Majka totally anonymous.


He always is ...but at least he was far better thna the whole of team SKY

What happened to them ...major fail

I have never thought Thomas is a man for the high mountians
Don't quite understand how you got Sky here, but speaking about it, Froome had a puncture and Nieve stayed with him, so not fair comparison.

SKY had a bad day ...that is what I said and as far as I know they were all competing in the same race ..so valid and fair comparison ...Geez :rolleyes:
Valid and fair comparison would be if they fight it out on the road, on their bikes :) Not when puncture decides result, that isn't fair.


Bloody hell the whole of SKY were beaten today not just Froome ...but Froome had a puncture and got back ot peloton to e dropped ...pretty much slogging it out on the road
Look life is too short for your sensitive position on this ...SKY were crab today end of
 

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If you have even an ounce of self respect you dont go crying to the jury to take Zakarin out after you've just been beaten in a sprint fair and square. So I really do wonder if Movistar/Quintana went to the jury themselves.
 
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classicomano said:
If you have even an ounce of self respect you dont go crying to the jury to take Zakarin out after you've just been beaten in a sprint fair and square. So I really do wonder if Movistar/Quintana went to the jury themselves.
The entire point is that Zakarin did not beat Nairo fair and square.
 
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HelloDolly said:
Bloody hell the whole of SKY were beaten today not just Froome ...but Froome had a puncture and got back ot peloton to e dropped ...pretty much slogging it out on the road
Look life is too short for your sensitive position on this ...SKY were crab today end of
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Wow, what a horrible decision. Yes, he moved a little to the right but there was plenty of space for Quintana anyway. If Quintana hadn't whined in the sprint, I wouldn't have noticed anything at all.

Were we watching the same sprint? Zakarin abruptly swerved to his right, cutting off Quintana's progress. There was no reason for him to that unless his intent was to block him against the barriers. Had Zakarin just held his line there wouldn't have been an issue, just an even closer end to the finishing sprint.
 
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HelloDolly said:
Bloody hell the whole of SKY were beaten today not just Froome ...but Froome had a puncture and got back ot peloton to e dropped ...pretty much slogging it out on the road
Look life is too short for your sensitive position on this ...SKY were crab today end of
Froome didn't got back to the peloton.
 
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classicomano said:
If you have even an ounce of self respect you dont go crying to the jury to take Zakarin out after you've just been beaten in a sprint fair and square. So I really do wonder if Movistar/Quintana went to the jury themselves.
The entire point is that Zakarin did not beat Nairo fair and square.

Unless he had some kind of panic rocket boost, Nairo was already beaten before Zakarin boxed him. Should that matter, I don't know.
 
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Poursuivant said:
Great, that has cost me about £200 :(

More for me. I backed both Zakarin and Quintana. I've just PM'd the bookies to see if the DQ meets their rules when they talk about settling bets before any inquiries/dq's etc. See if I can twist their arm
 
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I think it's a silly decision too, but why would you blame Quintana? Of course he is gonna make a gesture, every rider in the peloton would do that if they were forced to swerve to the side and brake to avoid crashing even if the sprint was lost already

Who's blaming Quintana? It's the organisers that have **** in their eyes
I do for overeacting, sure, but mostly for filling a claim after clearly losing the sprint.

Because it's pretty clear that Movistar has done that or else no decision would've been made. Nevertheless, it's obviously the judges fault.

No, it's Zakarin's fault.
 
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Unless he had some kind of panic rocket boost, Nairo was already beaten before Zakarin boxed him.
Perhaps, but "I would've won anyway" is not a valid excuse for breaking the rules.
 
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BigMac said:
That might have been the most dumb and useless relegation I've ever seen.
I'm a big fan of Quintana but i'm a bit embarrassed with this victory. Zakarin was more explosive than Quintana and with a straight ride he would've won. I just don't understand why the Quintana haters are coming, he just stand his right arm, no more.
 
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saganftw said:
i like how nobody is blaming Zakarin for being a shyte bikehandler

I don't think it has anything to do with his bike handling ability. He just made the wrong choice in a crucial moment, fearful of losing.
 
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Geraint Too Fast said:
HelloDolly said:
Bloody hell the whole of SKY were beaten today not just Froome ...but Froome had a puncture and got back ot peloton to e dropped ...pretty much slogging it out on the road
Look life is too short for your sensitive position on this ...SKY were crab today end of
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Angliru said:
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i like how nobody is blaming Zakarin for being a shyte bikehandler

I don't think it has anything to do with his bike handling ability. He just made the wrong choice in a crucial moment, fearful of losing.

you can block your oponent without looking like tashkent terror
 

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If you have even an ounce of self respect you dont go crying to the jury to take Zakarin out after you've just been beaten in a sprint fair and square. So I really do wonder if Movistar/Quintana went to the jury themselves.
The entire point is that Zakarin did not beat Nairo fair and square.
Yes, but it had no consequences on the outcome, Zakarin was already flying past Quintana. And anybody with a bit of dignity would have acknowledged that and just move past it. So again, im curious if they themselves formed a complaint to the jury.
 
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classicomano said:
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If you have even an ounce of self respect you dont go crying to the jury to take Zakarin out after you've just been beaten in a sprint fair and square. So I really do wonder if Movistar/Quintana went to the jury themselves.
The entire point is that Zakarin did not beat Nairo fair and square.
Yes, but it had no consequences on the outcome, Zakarin was already flying past Quintana. And anybody with a bit of dignity would have acknowledged that and just move past it. So again, im curious if they themselves formed a complaint to the jury.

just because the sprint was already won doesn't mean he has the right to do a dangerous manouver...
 
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BigMac said:
That might have been the most dumb and useless relegation I've ever seen.
This, he already had the win!
You can't blame Nairo for raising his hand, everybody throws up a hand without thinking if someone cuts your line. I don't know if he should have been relegated, hard to say, he cut his line but two man sprints can be a bit messy.
 
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CN, where riders get blamed and called out because someone else made a decision.
Would the jury have felt the need to correct the result if Quintana hadn't complained?

If you were attempting to advance along the barriers in a closing sprint and the rider to your left abruptly swerved with the obvious intent of impeding your progress, wouldn't you complain? It's not that complicated.
If you're in the midst of a sprint and a rider makes a intentional movement that necessitates that you completely stop pedaling to avoid making contact, I would think you wouldn't be very happy.
 
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classicomano said:
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If you have even an ounce of self respect you dont go crying to the jury to take Zakarin out after you've just been beaten in a sprint fair and square. So I really do wonder if Movistar/Quintana went to the jury themselves.
The entire point is that Zakarin did not beat Nairo fair and square.
Yes, but it had no consequences on the outcome, Zakarin was already flying past Quintana. And anybody with a bit of dignity would have acknowledged that and just move past it. So again, im curious if they themselves formed a complaint to the jury.

just because the sprint was already won doesn't mean he has the right to do a dangerous manouver...

Correct. But then maybe a more sensible approach would be to fine him.