2016 Giro d'Italia - Stage 10 Campi Bisenzio - Sestola 219km

[DFA123]

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Both big teams are messing this Giro up.

Astana are riding on the front for a team leader who isn't good enough atm to attack.

Movistar are **** up 3 possible stage wins + boni's for Valverde by not chasing the break.

You're talking as if it is a done deal, winning a stage just like that. Valverde would need to bury his team, every one of them, and even than it's a huge question if he would be in position to challenge the stage. He would need to sacrifice Amador for instance, who is very valuable for him standing high in the GC. And even then, it would be very hard to control the late attacks from the favorites, I doubt Amador can do that.
I think he's feeling great, and just saving his team for the deciding stages.

Exactly this. Also I don't think Valverde is that interested in GT stages any more - even for the handful of seconds that a win would give him.

He's copying his tactics from the Tour de France last year when he didn't go really deep in the first week on stages like Mur de Bretagne or Mur de Huy - which he probably could have won - and, as a result, he was still going really strong in the high mountains in the final week.

I think he would definitely like to win a giro stage since he has never done that.

Well he's clearly much more interested in going all out for the GC. Otherwise he would have used his team in a very different way on several stages so far which really suited him.

Winning a couple of Giro stages doesn't add a lot to his palmares. Winning the overall GC would arguably be his biggest ever achievement.

 

[CraZyCaLL]

I think Ciccone is а youngest stage winner in GTs at least in last 20 years

 

[Squire]

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I think Ciccone is а youngest stage winner in GTs at least in last 20 years

 

[TMP402]

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I think Ciccone is а youngest stage winner in GTs at least in last 20 years

Ciccone is six months younger.

 

[Kwibus]

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Both big teams are messing this Giro up.

Astana are riding on the front for a team leader who isn't good enough atm to attack.

Movistar are **** up 3 possible stage wins + boni's for Valverde by not chasing the break.

You must have it all wrong, Rob Hatch said it was a masterpiece of tactical riding for Amador to gain all those seconds. Oh wait.

It would've been a great move if Amador had the legs to actually stay away.

 

[Squire]

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I think Ciccone is а youngest stage winner in GTs at least in last 20 years

Ciccone is six months younger.

And how long since the Vuelta?

 

[CraZyCaLL]

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I think Ciccone is а youngest stage winner in GTs at least in last 20 years

Well, youngest in Giro

 

[DenisMenchov]

Cunego is such an incredible person. I was never a fan of his, but boy is he a true sportsman.

 

[IlGrillo]

Ciccone is the third youngest winner in a Giro d'Italia stage.

 

[del1962]

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any news about Pirazzi? I hope he'll be DSQ'd - at least.

I don't think it was deliberate, just poor descending, bit like Barguil in the tour

 

[May0maniac]

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any news about Pirazzi? I hope he'll be DSQ'd - at least.

I don't think it was deliberate, just poor descending, bit like Barguil in the tour

Barguil got hit by TJVG, so it wasn't totally his fault.
Pirazzi just had a hard time on the descent, he crashed afterwards and if you rewatch the incident with Cunego you can see how his rear wheel skid moments before.
Kruiswijk almost did the same to Majka.

 

[trevim]

Nieve to win the stage to Gard....Corvara after attacking with Garz....Cunego 200km from the line with Conta...Valverde chasing him down until the end after going on Passo Giau. Nibali to fight back on the downhills only to get dropped like a brick in the final climb.

 

[Jakub]

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any news about Pirazzi? I hope he'll be DSQ'd - at least.

I don't think it was deliberate, just poor descending, bit like Barguil in the tour

Barguil got hit by TJVG, so it wasn't totally his fault.
Pirazzi just had a hard time on the descent, he crashed afterwards and if you rewatch the incident with Cunego you can see how his rear wheel skid moments before.
Kruiswijk almost did the same to Majka.

He pushed him far more than necessary, Imho, but anyway for such desceding, when you put another rider in danger because of your risking and it is so obvious, you should be sanctioned. Or not?

 

[StryderHells]

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any news about Pirazzi? I hope he'll be DSQ'd - at least.

I don't think it was deliberate, just poor descending, bit like Barguil in the tour

Barguil got hit by TJVG, so it wasn't totally his fault.
Pirazzi just had a hard time on the descent, he crashed afterwards and if you rewatch the incident with Cunego you can see how his rear wheel skid moments before.
Kruiswijk almost did the same to Majka.

He pushed him far more than necessary, Imho, but anyway for such desceding, when you put another rider in danger because of your risking and it is so obvious, you should be sanctioned. Or not?

It was an accident plain and simple, he almost lost it and was just trying to stay upright, it didn't look great but things in slow motion often don't. If Pirazzi should be sanctioned for that then I assume you think Kruijswijk should be sanctioned for bumping into and almost taking out Majka?

 

[Squire]

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Nieve to win the stage to Gard....Corvara after attacking with Garz....Cunego 200km from the line with Conta...Valverde chasing him down until the end after going on Passo Giau. Nibali to fight back on the downhills only to get dropped like a brick in the final climb.

I approve of this scenario!

 

[Forever The Best]

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Nieve to win the stage to Gard....Corvara after attacking with Garz....Cunego 200km from the line with Conta...Valverde chasing him down until the end after going on Passo Giau. Nibali to fight back on the downhills only to get dropped like a brick in the final climb.

It will be one of the finest rides of Valv if he does that,maybe even his finest.
But there is a descent after the final climb in stage 14

 

[ice&fire]

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Nieve to win the stage to Gard....Corvara after attacking with Garz....Cunego 200km from the line with Conta...Valverde chasing him down until the end after going on Passo Giau. Nibali to fight back on the downhills only to get dropped like a brick in the final climb.

Valverde will follow wheels as long as he can until the Muro del Gatto in Corvara to win 5 seconds on whoever of the GC contenders is with him. Oh wait... that's still 5kms from the finish. I'll try again...He will attack in the fences in the other two short climbs in Andalo and Sant'Anna di Vinadio to get his second Vuelta win

 

[Bushman]

It was definitely unlucky that svineog was hit by Pirazzi but if he had had the legs to win the stage he could have recovered from the incident, especially since he is quite a good descender

 

[May0maniac]

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It was definitely unlucky that svineog was hit by Pirazzi but if he had had the legs to win the stage he could have recovered from the incident, especially since he is quite a good descender

He admitted that he didn't have the legs.

 

[SafeBet]

This Giro is starting to look like Giro 2012, with Astana being Liquigas and Nibali being Basso.
Kruijswijk could be Hesjedal.

 

[elfed68]

Can anyone explain why Visconti was pulling for Amador and not Valverde at the end of the stage?

 

[Rollthedice]

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This Giro is starting to look like Giro 2012, with Astana being Liquigas and Nibali being Basso.
Kruijswijk could be Hesjedal.

Who's Purito?

 

[Mr.White]

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Can anyone explain why Visconti was pulling for Amador and not Valverde at the end of the stage?

??? Amador was up front, trying to reach Maglia Rosa. Valverde was in the group, marking attacks. Did you even watched?!

 

[SafeBet]

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This Giro is starting to look like Giro 2012, with Astana being Liquigas and Nibali being Basso.
Kruijswijk could be Hesjedal.

Who's Purito?

Don't know, maybe Majka. The real question is who's De Gendt.

 

[elfed68]

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Can anyone explain why Visconti was pulling for Amador and not Valverde at the end of the stage?

??? Amador was up front, trying to reach Maglia Rosa. Valverde was in the group, marking attacks. Did you even watched?!

Yes, I did 'watched' that's why I was asking, as not everyone on this forum is as knowledge as yourself.

Valverde is team leader, why use Visconti on Amador when he could have paced Valverde to the finish line and gain seconds.