2016 Giro d'Italia - Stage 14: Farra d'Alpago–Corvara 210 km

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They're counting on Siutsov and Ulissi losing hard on Giau and Valparola it seems...Could Astana+Movi be seriously underrating their threat? I wouldn't be confortable with Kastantsin having 2 or 3 minutes advantage in the Pink...
 
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Spanish commentator keeps saying sentences like "very interesting bet by Movistar, "they're climbing at a decent pace", "this is a very seious pace they're setting"... While the time difference keeps growing exponentially every mountain pass. He really has to have something very good to smoke... ahahah.

We still have to wait until Giau to see what the bunch offer us. Meanwhile, I'll enjoy these sights in these beautiful surroundings... grr
 
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phil-i-am said:
Volderke said:
There are more people complaining about other people complaining it seems.
That would be even funny, if only true :p
Well, I guess I am pro critique and contra unfounded assumptions, just like everybody else.
There is nothing wrong with complaints about tactics of certain riders or teams, but there is a lot wrong with that kind of complaints just based on wild guesses and not on facts or some kind of knowledge of racing and how it's done.

It took me quite some time to filter out the comments that prove there are people here who actually know something about cycling (let's say months), but while I understand your previous post, I guess people's comments sometime seem to be harder as always with digital communication.
 
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luckyboy said:
Eshnar said:
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staubsauger said:
togo95 said:
Dolomites are the most beautiful mountains in Europe imo. Hopefully I will visit again soon.
Whole South Tyrol must be sheer earthporn. Especially the Dolomites! <3
I could be wrong, but isnt the majority of the Dolomites outside of South Tyrol?
Yeah, most of them are in Trentino proper.
Only major Giro climbs in South Tyrol I can think of are Kronplatz, Gardena, Alpe di Siusi. Sella and Tre Cime are on the border.
Tre Cime are in Veneto. Near the border, but definitely not South Tirol. All the other passes (also the ones cited by staubsauger), true.
 
movistar cant even put a fierce pace at the front - Amador and Valverde cannot work,Betancur is out of form,they have one guy out so they are left with Visconti,Sutherland,Suterlin and Rojas to pull which is not good enough for a mountain stage,none of those guys is a good climber and Visconti was in the break yesterday

they simply dont have the personel for anything other than controling the race, its up to Astana if they want to up the pace
 
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sir fly said:
Amador doesn't look comfortable even with this pace.
He could hold on to the jersey, though, but every other rider at the front looks better than him.
Yeah, I noticed this too, even on one of the first climbs he seemed to be rocking a bit. He could lose big time today, if it's actually an indication of how he's feeling.
 
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Volderke said:
phil-i-am said:
Volderke said:
There are more people complaining about other people complaining it seems.
That would be even funny, if only true :p
Well, I guess I am pro critique and contra unfounded assumptions, just like everybody else.
There is nothing wrong with complaints about tactics of certain riders or teams, but there is a lot wrong with that kind of complaints just based on wild guesses and not on facts or some kind of knowledge of racing and how it's done.

It took me quite some time to filter out the comments that prove there are people here who actually know something about cycling (let's say months), but while I understand your previous post, I guess people's comments sometime seem to be harder as always with digital communication.

Yeah, I know. It's just there are so many whining comments that doesn't necessarily make any sense for me. On the other hand I should remember that not everyone has been watching cycling on a regular basis for the last 15 years ;)

Can't wait to Giau! :D
 
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MikeTichondrius said:
They're counting on Siutsov and Ulissi losing hard on Giau and Valparola it seems...Could Astana+Movi be seriously underrating their threat? I wouldn't be confortable with Kastantsin having 2 or 3 minutes advantage in the Pink...
His name is Konstantin Sivcov. No Kastantsin, Kanstantsin or whatever else.
 
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Squire said:
sir fly said:
Amador doesn't look comfortable even with this pace.
He could hold on to the jersey, though, but every other rider at the front looks better than him.
Yeah, I noticed this too, even on one of the first climbs he seemed to be rocking a bit. He could lose big time today, if it's actually an indication of how he's feeling.
Or he could lose bit time even if it isn't indication of how he is feeling :eek:
 
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How much I'd love it if Ruben Plaza won this...
I see it very very difficult though.
 
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Kokoso said:
MikeTichondrius said:
They're counting on Siutsov and Ulissi losing hard on Giau and Valparola it seems...Could Astana+Movi be seriously underrating their threat? I wouldn't be confortable with Kastantsin having 2 or 3 minutes advantage in the Pink...
His name is Konstantin Sivcov. No Kastantsin, Kanstantsin or whatever else.
Канстанцін Сіўцоў in Belarusian. That transliterates exactly as Kanstantsin Siutsou.

Now, he may be a Russian speaker and his actual name might be Константин Сивцов/Konstantin Sivtsov. But then, this would need to be established. Can't just say the Belarusian transliteration is wrong and leave it at that.
 
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hrotha said:
Kokoso said:
MikeTichondrius said:
They're counting on Siutsov and Ulissi losing hard on Giau and Valparola it seems...Could Astana+Movi be seriously underrating their threat? I wouldn't be confortable with Kastantsin having 2 or 3 minutes advantage in the Pink...
His name is Konstantin Sivcov. No Kastantsin, Kanstantsin or whatever else.
Канстанцін Сіўцоў in Belarusian. That transliterates exactly as Kanstantsin Siutsou.

Now, he may be a Russian speaker and his actual name might be Константин Сивцов/Konstantin Sivtsov. But then, this would need to be established. Can't just say the Belarusian transliteration is wrong and leave it at that.
That's new to me. Sorry for misleading. Thank for explanation!
 
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hrotha said:
Kokoso said:
MikeTichondrius said:
They're counting on Siutsov and Ulissi losing hard on Giau and Valparola it seems...Could Astana+Movi be seriously underrating their threat? I wouldn't be confortable with Kastantsin having 2 or 3 minutes advantage in the Pink...
His name is Konstantin Sivcov. No Kastantsin, Kanstantsin or whatever else.
Канстанцін Сіўцоў in Belarusian. That transliterates exactly as Kanstantsin Siutsou.

Now, he may be a Russian speaker and his actual name might be Константин Сивцов/Konstantin Sivtsov. But then, this would need to be established. Can't just say the Belarusian transliteration is wrong and leave it at that.
And it still wouldn't change anything even if it were established.

Gonchar fought for years to get his name listed on TV and official documents correctly. No dice, still got listed as Honchar.

Several times we had the ludicrous situation of a guy explaining into the microphone for the millionth time that it's Gonchar with a G while the caption on the bottom lists 'Serhiy Honchar'
 

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