2016 Giro d'Italia stage 16: Bressanone - Andalo (132 km)

[Tarnum]

Fastest time schedule was 3:22, slowest rider did it in 3:18. Admittedly, they had a light tailwind all the way, but that's still very fast.

 

[Angliru]

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Fastest time schedule was 3:22, slowest rider did it in 3:18. Admittedly, they had a light tailwind all the way, but that's still very fast.

With it being such a short stage it makes sense that it would be ridden faster than a longer stage. Plus the added incentive of a rider (Valverde) who the route is ideal for with a team motivated to wear down his rivals in an effort to make up for his time lost.

 

[portugal11]

This giro was boring in the first week but this sec9nd week was the best in my entire life

 

[hrotha]

Re: 2016 Giro d'Italia stage 16: Bressanone - Andalo (132 km

Cant you guys at least show some compassion

We could pay for your plane ticket to the aforementioned isolated tropical paradise.

 

[doperhopper]

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this has to be best moment of the day :lol:

erodogan is a goat****** :lolcry:

LMAO, this is the funniest sh*t I have ever seen

WTF, Cima Erdogan?

 

[carolina]

Re: 2016 Giro d'Italia stage 16: Bressanone - Andalo (132 km

Cant you guys at least show some compassion

We could pay for your plane ticket to the aforementioned isolated tropical paradise.

this^^

everyone in the forum contributes with 5€ and you get some nice vacations. it's not a bad idea and everyone's happy

 

[Jungle Cycle]

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Landa is probably banging his head against the wall...

Why exactly?!

If he did that well in the 40km TT its "logical" to think he wouldn't loose time in mTT or even gain. Plus its also logical to think he'ld also not loose or even gain on saturday and today. He should be leading this giro and in control with Lopez+Henao... no?

 

[carolina]

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Landa is probably banging his head against the wall...

Why exactly?!

If he did that well in the 40km TT its "logical" to think he wouldn't loose time in mTT or even gain. Plus its also logical to think he'ld also not loose or even gain on saturday and today. He should be leading this giro and in control with Lopez+Henao... no?

nibali also did well in the ITT and look where he is now

 

[DFA123]

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Landa is probably banging his head against the wall...

Why exactly?!

If he did that well in the 40km TT its "logical" to think he wouldn't loose time in mTT or even gain. Plus its also logical to think he'ld also not loose or even gain on saturday and today. He should be leading this giro and in control with Lopez+Henao... no?

Quite a supposition about a guy who has never even won a WT stage race.

 

[hrotha]

Landa didn't do well in the first week so it was "logical" to expect him to falter in the ITT.

 

[Mr.White]

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Landa is probably banging his head against the wall...

Why exactly?!

If he did that well in the 40km TT its "logical" to think he wouldn't loose time in mTT or even gain. Plus its also logical to think he'ld also not loose or even gain on saturday and today. He should be leading this giro and in control with Lopez+Henao... no?

No! A true champion would not quit the Giro 50km into the stage, sick or not! A true champion would fight until the very end! That Landa boy don't have a character of a winner, that hunger, will to suffer. Sure he can shine, he can shine very bright, but he can't do that day after day, and he can't do it when the going gets tough.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

Re: 2016 Giro d'Italia stage 16: Bressanone - Andalo (132 km

Cant you guys at least show some compassion

We could pay for your plane ticket to the aforementioned isolated tropical paradise.

this^^

everyone in the forum contributes with 5€ and you get some nice vacations. it's not a bad idea and everyone's happy

50€ if you take Carlton Kirby with you

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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Landa is probably banging his head against the wall...

Why exactly?!

If he did that well in the 40km TT its "logical" to think he wouldn't loose time in mTT or even gain. Plus its also logical to think he'ld also not loose or even gain on saturday and today. He should be leading this giro and in control with Lopez+Henao... no?

Quite a supposition about a guy who has never even won a WT stage race.

Neither has Kruijswijk. That said, Landa hasn't really shown much besides his 3rd place last year. And heck, even Peter Velits has a 3rd place in a GT.

 

[Ataraxus]

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This giro was boring in the first week but this sec9nd week was the best in my entire life

Happy for you.
For such a statement l, myself have to go back in 1998.
Have you watched Giro 2010 and 2015 BTW.

 

[RedheadDane]

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Fastest time schedule was 3:22, slowest rider did it in 3:18. Admittedly, they had a light tailwind all the way, but that's still very fast.

That's... crazy!

 

[Kwibus]

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Btw I'm not at home on Tuesday, so I wont be able to watch.

You are f****** kidding me

Multiple times in this thread there have been mentions about your willingness of sacrifice for our joy

 

[Kwibus]

Re: 2016 Giro d'Italia stage 16: Bressanone - Andalo (132 km

Cant you guys at least show some compassion

We could pay for your plane ticket to the aforementioned isolated tropical paradise.

That's not much compassion.

Gigs I got some hope for you. There were 2 years when i watched pretty much all races and everytime a dutch rider won I didn't watch....
That cursed is over though. Dutch riders still barely win and I still barely get to see it live, but I watched lbl for example when Poels won. So your curse will end... Some day.

Realistic: wether you watch or not has absolutely zero influence on how they will race a stage ofcourse. Just bad luck

 

[Tank Engine]

A great stage. Kruijswijk is insanely strong.

I didn't think that Chaves would get dropped on the first climb. Otherwise, Kangert would have obviously won

 

[Jungle Cycle]

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Landa is probably banging his head against the wall...

Why exactly?!

If he did that well in the 40km TT its "logical" to think he wouldn't loose time in mTT or even gain. Plus its also logical to think he'ld also not loose or even gain on saturday and today. He should be leading this giro and in control with Lopez+Henao... no?

Quite a supposition about a guy who has never even won a WT stage race.

Neither has Kruijswijk. That said, Landa hasn't really shown much besides his 3rd place last year. And heck, even Peter Velits has a 3rd place in a GT.

I'm not particulary a Landa fan. It just looked(!?) like he should be there top 3 easyly. He was with them even little seek. I guess it was too much of a "prediction" but if there ever was a GT for him to win it should be this one...

 

[DNP-Old]

Chaves was by far the fastest on Paganella, he's in amazing shape. Hindsight is 20/20, but terrible mistake not to be with the Maglia Rosa. Though at the time I thought he was being an absolute genius.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

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Chaves was by far the fastest on Paganella, he's in amazing shape. Hindsight is 20/20, but terrible mistake not to be with the Maglia Rosa. Though at the time I thought he was being an absolute genius.

Cycling is not chess, brawn not brain wins the day.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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Chaves was by far the fastest on Paganella, he's in amazing shape. Hindsight is 20/20, but terrible mistake not to be with the Maglia Rosa. Though at the time I thought he was being an absolute genius.

By about 20 seconds

However, take into account most of the first part of the climb was led by Kangert and Jungels. When Jungels was leading Chaves didn't gain a second (kept it around 20s). Then there was some stop/start accelerating, which didn't help the lead group, until Valverde attacked ofcourse. And at the top, after Valverde attacked. Valv/K/Chav had 26 seconds on Chaves. So he did lose some time at the end of the climb. Logical, but just to put things in perspective

 

[Bushman]

What a ride from Chaves. What a fighter, the way he just grinded that last climb right from the foot. Such a fantastic character.

Kruiswijk looks unbeatable at the moment, he is simply the strongest rider uphill. Nibali is done.

 

[hrotha]

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Chaves was by far the fastest on Paganella, he's in amazing shape. Hindsight is 20/20, but terrible mistake not to be with the Maglia Rosa. Though at the time I thought he was being an absolute genius.

I don't think he had a say in the matter.

When climbs at the beginning of a stage are raced very hard, you often see people underperform because they didn't do enough of a warm up or just because it took them longer to get the engine started. Chaves ended the stage strong enough, but he certainly wasn't as strong when all the other contenders went up the road.

 

[GuyIncognito]

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What a stage again!
Who said its like 2012 giro?

Congrats to Valverde,experience won

Tbh it's even more like Hampsten 88 now. Once in a lifetime chance, once in a lifetime shape, once in a lifetime performance!

Once in a lifetime luck too.
It's not often mentioned that Hampsten was going to lose that Giro in the final TT anyway and was saved by an oil spill in a roundabout that brought down the other contenders.

True. He mentions that himself all the time tough. As well he was the only guy that knew about the oil in that corner. So it's 50:50 luck and good preparation in all meanings.

Let's be fair here, it's not preparation, simply he rode later than the others so he got there after the race radio broadcast a warning about the oil

Chaves was by far the fastest on Paganella, he's in amazing shape. Hindsight is 20/20, but terrible mistake not to be with the Maglia Rosa. Though at the time I thought he was being an absolute genius.

By about 20 seconds

However, take into account most of the first part of the climb was led by Kangert and Jungels. When Jungels was leading Chaves didn't gain a second (kept it around 20s). Then there was some stop/start accelerating, which didn't help the lead group, until Valverde attacked ofcourse. And at the top, after Valverde attacked. Valv/K/Chav had 26 seconds on Chaves. So he did lose some time at the end of the climb. Logical, but just to put things in perspective

Chaves didn't do a single lick of work for mile after mile while Zakarin, Valverde, Kruijswijk and Nibali were taking pulls at the front. He should've caught them and passed them on the climb. The fact that he didn't despite the massive advantage of just sitting on two teams that were doing the work for him for the previous 40kms reflects poorly on his legs