2016 Giro d'Italia, Stage 18: Muggiò - Pinerolo (240 km)

[Miburo]

If nothing happens in the next 2 stages, this giro only had 3 really good stages for the GC (and just in general) and one of them was a timetrail

 

[Gigs_98]

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Why Valverde stop everytime the leader lose some meters and he sprint at the end for nothing??

This
Doesnt want to work with Nibali when they have a gap after the descent but then sprints for 20th place

 

[DFA123]

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Why Valverde stop everytime the leader lose some meters and he sprint at the end for nothing??

Clearly because he doesn't want to put in a hard 2km effort leading everyone out for no gain. On the other hand, given his anaerobic power, he probably feels that making everyone do a short sprint will take less out of him than his rivals.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

 

[Eclipse]

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If nothing happens in the next 2 stages, this giro only had 3 really good stages for the GC (and just in general) and one of them was a timetrail

Nibali will try something and whether he blows up or is successful it will animate things. Pretty sure the racing will be good

 

[Arredondo]

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Why Valverde stop everytime the leader lose some meters and he sprint at the end for nothing??

The enigma Valverde

 

[Volderke]

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epic fail from Moser. Not even in the now that Trentin was coming...?

Easy to say typing on a forum. What could he do?

Not easy to win, I agree, but it seemed to me he didn't even see Trentin coming. A better look over his shoulder or his DS warning him could have resulted in an earlier sprint. Now Moser didn't sprint with Trentin in mind, just waiting to cover Brambilla (executing this perfectly).

 

[Gigs_98]

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If nothing happens in the next 2 stages, this giro only had 3 really good stages for the GC (and just in general) and one of them was a timetrail

It wasnt gc relevant but the finale of stage 11 was good as well

 

[Arredondo]

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If nothing happens in the next 2 stages, this giro only had 3 really good stages for the GC (and just in general) and one of them was a timetrail

You always find a way to complain

 

[Beech Mtn]

Eurosport thinks the Nibs/Majka convo was them making plans for tomorrow. Majka was probably just asking Nibs to get in front and take a pull so he could follow him to the team buses.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Valverde has a long history of negative racing, I don't know why that surprises.

I think he would've been a much more interesting rider if he didn't have that great sprint —he relies on it too much.

 

[luckyboy]

These next stages don't look great for any race-changing action. Needs multi-mountains instead of just two with a massive descent between them.

 

[DFA123]

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These next stages don't look great for any race-changing action. Needs multi-mountains instead of just two with a massive descent between them.

What? They are huge stages. 8,000m of climbing in the next two days - with a lot at high altitide. A 35km climb like Agnello is surely better for action that three 10km climbs, where everyone can get back on in the descents between them.

 

[Volderke]

Re-watched the last 2K. They were freewheeling. Moser thought he could start from 40k/h sprinting in the last 200m while he didn't even check if someone was coming. So the moment he was passed by Trentin at 60k/h, he was only doing 40... So still epic fail in my book.
If I am riding at 35K and a scooter passes at 55K, I start sprinting when the scooter is like 100 meters behind or I never catch him.
In the heat of the battle not easy to hear your DS in the ear or look behind to check, but still, I call it an epic fail.

 

[Gigs_98]

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These next stages don't look great for any race-changing action. Needs multi-mountains instead of just two with a massive descent between them.

It sounds strange but the flat between Agnello and Rissoul is probably a bigger problem for Kruijswijk as another pass would be. On a climb he can just follow because he is the strongest, but if someone drops him on a descent and has riders in front who pull the attacker over the flat Kruijswijk could loose a lot of time

 

[Climbing]

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If nothing happens in the next 2 stages, this giro only had 3 really good stages for the GC (and just in general) and one of them was a timetrail

There is only one rider with serious balls, and he's out of form...
Pretty sure that both Chaves and Valverde are content with their podium, so that's it.
Maybe Zakarin, but maybe not, we'll see.
I sure hope for some fireworks.

 

[Mr.White]

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Valverde is a disgrace.

And Chaves is such a champion

 

[togo95]

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If nothing happens in the next 2 stages, this giro only had 3 really good stages for the GC (and just in general) and one of them was a timetrail

You always find a way to complain

What is he complaining about? The comment is purely stating subjective assessment of the stages so far without any emotional involvement.

 

[RattaKuningas]

I don't understand what Valverde did wrong. There was no reason for him to spend more energy than others for a couple of additional seconds because it wouldn't have mattered much. Everyone wants to save as much as possible for tomorrow.

 

[DFA123]

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If nothing happens in the next 2 stages, this giro only had 3 really good stages for the GC (and just in general) and one of them was a timetrail

There is only one rider with serious balls, and he's out of form...
Pretty sure that both Chaves and Valverde are content with their podium, so that's it.
Maybe Zakarin, but maybe not, we'll see.
I sure hope for some fireworks.

Valverde and Chaves will certainly battle each other for second place. If their battle puts Kruijswijk in any kind of difficulty, then it's game on.

 

[damian13ster]

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Eurosport thinks the Nibs/Majka convo was them making plans for tomorrow. Majka was probably just asking Nibs to get in front and take a pull so he could follow him to the team buses.

Majka will attack tommorow. My bet though is that it won't happen until mid-way up Risoul. I think he believes that Valverde, possibly Chaves and Nibali can be dropped

 

[DNP-Old]

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Valverde is a disgrace.

And Chaves is such a champion

Yes, because that is so relevant.

 

[Arredondo]

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If nothing happens in the next 2 stages, this giro only had 3 really good stages for the GC (and just in general) and one of them was a timetrail

You always find a way to complain

What is he complaining about? The comment is purely stating subjective assessment of the stages so far without any emotional involvement.

look at the word 'only'

 

[carton]

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Why Valverde stop everytime the leader lose some meters and he sprint at the end for nothing??

The enigma Valverde

Nah, he's just trying to gain a few seconds on Chaves and put him under a bit of pressure. That's who he was testing both times. He's 23 seconds down, and has a better shot in the short steep stuff and in the sprints than in the high altitude.

 

[DFA123]

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Valverde is a disgrace.

And Chaves is such a champion

Yes, because that is so relevant.

It's a fair point. If Valverde is being criticized for not wasting loads of energy for a handful of seconds, why not make the same comment about the guy actually sitting in second place?