2016 Tour of Denmark, 2.HC, 27-31/07

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Valv.Piti said:
I have high hopes for Cort, seems in monster shape right now. Last year he sucked in Vejle, yesterday did super well and today he did an impressive ITT. Valgren isn't your typical winner, Cort is.
I am not sure Orica is the right team for Cort, maybe after Bling leaves.
 
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liamito said:
Valv.Piti said:
I have high hopes for Cort, seems in monster shape right now. Last year he sucked in Vejle, yesterday did super well and today he did an impressive ITT. Valgren isn't your typical winner, Cort is.
I am not sure Orica is the right team for Cort, maybe after Bling leaves.
Cort is developing well at OBE and the team is happy with his progress.Definitely a Classics type rider in the future.

Is stage 5 hilly like last year ? ÌF SO can't beat Valgren for GC.
 
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yaco said:
liamito said:
Valv.Piti said:
I have high hopes for Cort, seems in monster shape right now. Last year he sucked in Vejle, yesterday did super well and today he did an impressive ITT. Valgren isn't your typical winner, Cort is.
I am not sure Orica is the right team for Cort, maybe after Bling leaves.
Cort is developing well at OBE and the team is happy with his progress.Definitely a Classics type rider in the future.

Is stage 5 hilly like last year ? ÌF SO can't beat Valgren for GC.
The 5th stage is never hilly but sometimes provides some good racing anyway. The finishing circuit is not very long and is ridden a lot of times (cant elementer the exact numbers) so Cort will have to win the stage and pick up some bonus seconds. Will be very hard to do, especially against the strongest team in the peloton.
 
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Cance > TheRest said:
Würtz took the stage. Now 3rd place overall, leading the points and young riders classifications. That was quite a turnaround after yesterday's bad day in Vejle.

It will be interesting to see how the overall battle between Cort and Valgren pans out.
Honestly, Mads didn't even have that bad of a day yesterday. Obviously he lost more time that he would have liked to, but last year he lost almost as much time in Vejle. He's just not fond of climbs with that high of a gradient. Throw him a 5-6% gradient over the course of 8-10 kilometers and he's superb though. As of right now he just isn't cut out for climbs like Kiddesvej.

But what a great ride on today's time trial. Cort was also absolutely incredible. I hadn't anticipated a time trial that good from him, but he's just developing really nicely and getting better in every aspect. Can't wait to see how he'll do in the Vuelta.
 
Whats also looking good from a red and white perspective is the fact that Denmark's 3 biggest talents is 1st, 2nd and 3rd overall. The field is pretty horrible, but nevertheless good to see the best prospects do well (well Valgren can hardly be considered a prospect, but still young).
 
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Blaugrana92 said:
Cance > TheRest said:
Würtz took the stage. Now 3rd place overall, leading the points and young riders classifications. That was quite a turnaround after yesterday's bad day in Vejle.

It will be interesting to see how the overall battle between Cort and Valgren pans out.
Honestly, Mads didn't even have that bad of a day yesterday. Obviously he lost more time that he would have liked to, but last year he lost almost as much time in Vejle. He's just not fond of climbs with that high of a gradient. Throw him a 5-6% gradient over the course of 8-10 kilometers and he's superb though. As of right now he just isn't cut out for climbs like Kiddesvej.

But what a great ride on today's time trial. Cort was also absolutely incredible. I hadn't anticipated a time trial that good from him, but he's just developing really nicely and getting better in every aspect. Can't wait to see how he'll do in the Vuelta.
I guess I was just expecting him to limit his losses better than he did, since he had everything to fight for in the GC. In hindsight he would have been really close to winning the race if he had been better yesterday.

In general, you are ofcourse right, that Mads is not a great climber and also not as punchy as Cort, Valgren, Marcato and all the other riders who did well on the slopes of Kiddesvej yesterday.
 
Re: Stage 2 of Tour of Denmark, exciting finish

I compared Mads Würtz' speed to that of the TT in the Volta ao Algarve this year (similar length and terrain). It turns out he would have finished third there, behind Cancellara and Tony Martin. But ahead of these pretty good guys (Top 20):

1º 112 SUI19810318 CANCELLARA Fabian TREK - SEGAFREDO (USA) 0:20:57 03
2º 34 GER19850423 MARTIN Tony ETIXX - QUICK STEP (BEL) 0:21:02 21 a 5
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3º 1 GBR19860525 THOMAS Geraint TEAM SKY (GBR) 0:21:25 92 a 28
4º 75 ESP19890204 IZAGUIRRE Ion MOVISTAR TEAM (ESP) 0:21:34 28 a 37
5º 76 POR19890306 OLIVEIRA Nelson MOVISTAR TEAM (ESP) 0:21:34 41 m.t.
6º 73 ESP19870427 CASTROVIEJO Jonathan MOVISTAR TEAM (ESP) 0:21:34 91 m.t.
7º 74 GBR19881003 DOWSETT Alex MOVISTAR TEAM (ESP) 0:21:37 74 a 40
8º 64 FRA19880524 GALLOPIN Tony LOTTO SOUDAL (BEL) 0:21:48 28 a 51
9º 91 BEL19911028 CAMPANAERTS Victor TEAM LOTTO NL - JUMBO (NED) 0:21:48 71 m.t.
10º 25 LTU19880130 NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas CANNONDALE PRO CYCLING TEAM (USA) 0:21:52 20 a 55
11º 51 AUT19891207 BRÄNDLE Matthias IAM CYCLING (SUI) 0:21:54 45 a 57
12º 41 FRA19900529 PINOT Thibaut FDJ (FRA) 0:21:59 02 a 1:02
13º 101 ESP19821206 CONTADOR Alberto TINKOFF (RUS) 0:22:00 83 a 1:03
14º 87 RUS19901012 VOROBYEV Anton TEAM KATUSHA (RUS) 0:22:02 42 a 1:05
15º 48 FRA19901003 LE BON Johan FDJ (FRA) 0:22:02 97 m.t.
16º 7 ITA19890831 PUCCIO Salvatore TEAM SKY (GBR) 0:22:03 75 a 1:06
17º 97 BEL19880728 VANMARCKE Sep TEAM LOTTO NL - JUMBO (NED) 0:22:04 29 a 1:07
18º 8 GBR19870525 STANNARD Ian TEAM SKY (GBR) 0:22:05 02 a 1:08
19º 33 BEL19910410 LAMPAERT Yves ETIXX - QUICK STEP (BEL) 0:22:05 15 m.t.
20º 88 RUS19890915 ZAKARIN Ilnur TEAM KATUSHA (RUS) 0:22:06 37 a 1:09
 
Re: Stage 2 of Tour of Denmark, exciting finish

Danskebjerge said:
I compared Mads Würtz' speed to that of the TT in the Volta ao Algarve this year (similar length and terrain). It turns out he would have finished third there, behind Cancellara and Tony Martin. But ahead of these pretty good guys (Top 20):

1º 112 SUI19810318 CANCELLARA Fabian TREK - SEGAFREDO (USA) 0:20:57 03
2º 34 GER19850423 MARTIN Tony ETIXX - QUICK STEP (BEL) 0:21:02 21 a 5
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3º 1 GBR19860525 THOMAS Geraint TEAM SKY (GBR) 0:21:25 92 a 28
4º 75 ESP19890204 IZAGUIRRE Ion MOVISTAR TEAM (ESP) 0:21:34 28 a 37
5º 76 POR19890306 OLIVEIRA Nelson MOVISTAR TEAM (ESP) 0:21:34 41 m.t.
6º 73 ESP19870427 CASTROVIEJO Jonathan MOVISTAR TEAM (ESP) 0:21:34 91 m.t.
7º 74 GBR19881003 DOWSETT Alex MOVISTAR TEAM (ESP) 0:21:37 74 a 40
8º 64 FRA19880524 GALLOPIN Tony LOTTO SOUDAL (BEL) 0:21:48 28 a 51
9º 91 BEL19911028 CAMPANAERTS Victor TEAM LOTTO NL - JUMBO (NED) 0:21:48 71 m.t.
10º 25 LTU19880130 NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas CANNONDALE PRO CYCLING TEAM (USA) 0:21:52 20 a 55
11º 51 AUT19891207 BRÄNDLE Matthias IAM CYCLING (SUI) 0:21:54 45 a 57
12º 41 FRA19900529 PINOT Thibaut FDJ (FRA) 0:21:59 02 a 1:02
13º 101 ESP19821206 CONTADOR Alberto TINKOFF (RUS) 0:22:00 83 a 1:03
14º 87 RUS19901012 VOROBYEV Anton TEAM KATUSHA (RUS) 0:22:02 42 a 1:05
15º 48 FRA19901003 LE BON Johan FDJ (FRA) 0:22:02 97 m.t.
16º 7 ITA19890831 PUCCIO Salvatore TEAM SKY (GBR) 0:22:03 75 a 1:06
17º 97 BEL19880728 VANMARCKE Sep TEAM LOTTO NL - JUMBO (NED) 0:22:04 29 a 1:07
18º 8 GBR19870525 STANNARD Ian TEAM SKY (GBR) 0:22:05 02 a 1:08
19º 33 BEL19910410 LAMPAERT Yves ETIXX - QUICK STEP (BEL) 0:22:05 15 m.t.
20º 88 RUS19890915 ZAKARIN Ilnur TEAM KATUSHA (RUS) 0:22:06 37 a 1:09
The difference is that in Algarve none of these guys were at their peak, building form for their objectives later in the spring or in the GTs. On the other hand, Mads Würtz is certainly at the peak of his condition, going for his home tour in a Danish squad.
 
Re: Stage 2 of Tour of Denmark, exciting finish

Ricco' said:
The difference is that in Algarve none of these guys were at their peak, building form for their objectives later in the spring or in the GTs. On the other hand, Mads Würtz is certainly at the peak of his condition, going for his home tour in a Danish squad.
Well, I agree.
 
Lars Boom really working for it, increasing his popularity in Denmark. He and the others in the breakaway group were only caught by the peloton on the second last round on the circuit in Copenhagen. I'll upload soon. :)
 
General classifications, after final stage:

1. VALGREN Michael
2. NIELSEN Magnus Cort 10"
3. SCHMIDT Mads Würtz 57"
4. GOGL Michael 1'21"
5. PFINGSTEN Chrisoph 1'22"
6. VAN HOECKE Gijs 1'33"
7. KAMP Alexander 1'41"
8. DE VREESE Laurens 1'42"
9. MARCATO Marco 1'44"
10. BOARO Manuele 1'46"
 
Re: Stage 2 of Tour of Denmark, exciting finish

Danskebjerge said:
I compared Mads Würtz' speed to that of the TT in the Volta ao Algarve this year (similar length and terrain). It turns out he would have finished third there, behind Cancellara and Tony Martin. But ahead of these pretty good guys (Top 20):

1º 112 SUI19810318 CANCELLARA Fabian TREK - SEGAFREDO (USA) 0:20:57 03
2º 34 GER19850423 MARTIN Tony ETIXX - QUICK STEP (BEL) 0:21:02 21 a 5
--
3º 1 GBR19860525 THOMAS Geraint TEAM SKY (GBR) 0:21:25 92 a 28
4º 75 ESP19890204 IZAGUIRRE Ion MOVISTAR TEAM (ESP) 0:21:34 28 a 37
5º 76 POR19890306 OLIVEIRA Nelson MOVISTAR TEAM (ESP) 0:21:34 41 m.t.
6º 73 ESP19870427 CASTROVIEJO Jonathan MOVISTAR TEAM (ESP) 0:21:34 91 m.t.
7º 74 GBR19881003 DOWSETT Alex MOVISTAR TEAM (ESP) 0:21:37 74 a 40
8º 64 FRA19880524 GALLOPIN Tony LOTTO SOUDAL (BEL) 0:21:48 28 a 51
9º 91 BEL19911028 CAMPANAERTS Victor TEAM LOTTO NL - JUMBO (NED) 0:21:48 71 m.t.
10º 25 LTU19880130 NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas CANNONDALE PRO CYCLING TEAM (USA) 0:21:52 20 a 55
11º 51 AUT19891207 BRÄNDLE Matthias IAM CYCLING (SUI) 0:21:54 45 a 57
12º 41 FRA19900529 PINOT Thibaut FDJ (FRA) 0:21:59 02 a 1:02
13º 101 ESP19821206 CONTADOR Alberto TINKOFF (RUS) 0:22:00 83 a 1:03
14º 87 RUS19901012 VOROBYEV Anton TEAM KATUSHA (RUS) 0:22:02 42 a 1:05
15º 48 FRA19901003 LE BON Johan FDJ (FRA) 0:22:02 97 m.t.
16º 7 ITA19890831 PUCCIO Salvatore TEAM SKY (GBR) 0:22:03 75 a 1:06
17º 97 BEL19880728 VANMARCKE Sep TEAM LOTTO NL - JUMBO (NED) 0:22:04 29 a 1:07
18º 8 GBR19870525 STANNARD Ian TEAM SKY (GBR) 0:22:05 02 a 1:08
19º 33 BEL19910410 LAMPAERT Yves ETIXX - QUICK STEP (BEL) 0:22:05 15 m.t.
20º 88 RUS19890915 ZAKARIN Ilnur TEAM KATUSHA (RUS) 0:22:06 37 a 1:09
I don't know about Denmark but Algarve was a pretty windy time trial.
 
Missed most of the racing, but I did manage to catch the finish of the first two stages, some sprint by Cort! :surprised: (and nice race by the nat-team.)
Would've liked to see the Vejle-stage, but I was - almost - literally sitting on the edge of a glacier.









(Too bad they couldn't put a stage around Ilulissat. It's technically still part of Denmark...)
 
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