2017 National Championships discussion

[Ricco']

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When the USA moved their Nat Champs to the same weekend as the rest of the world, they greatly reduced the chances of the starts and stripes being in the TdF.

What would your ideal date be?

To me, week before or week after California would be the best solution, given that the majority of the top US riders (and almost all who don't go to the Giro) ride there.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

What's it with giving the race time caption on screen and not the km/miles to go
Did they consult any one before commissioning the clueless US broadcast?

 

[sir fly]

Warbasse riding the most efficient.

Looked the strongest for entire lap.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

whose got the best sprint?

Answer: Warbasse

 

[pastronef]

great win for Warbasse. fast legs spinning, while the other 2 were on harder gears. great win for Aqua-Blue and the "fukinidiot" Rick Delaney (as Kimmage called the Aqua-Blue owner earlier this year)
I've been an Aqua-Blue fan ever since

 

[jmdirt]

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When the USA moved their Nat Champs to the same weekend as the rest of the world, they greatly reduced the chances of the starts and stripes being in the TdF. The logistics were always an issue for USA riders based in Europe, but now they verge on not going to happen. While cycling fans know that there are a lot of races, most USAers don't so having a USA rider to identify helps drag in viewers "yeh, that guy is the nat champ!".

If by "the rest of the World" you mean the Northern Hemisphere...
I think the Aussies are gonna be a tad sad learning they aren't in the World. Same with New Zealand, and South Africa, and Colombia.

:lol: I meant the Euro based cycling world. Down under IS a different world!

 

[Anderis]

A good year for Warbasse. I wonder if he will get WT offers again.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

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A good year for Warbasse. I wonder if he will get WT offers again.

I believe all AquaBlue riders have two year contracts. The set up there, riding as a leader on a smaller team with a good calendar seems to be working out for him anyway. I presume he will be in their Vuelta squad and will have freedom to go for stages.

 

[HelloDolly]

great win for Warbasse. fast legs spinning, while the other 2 were on harder gears. great win for Aqua-Blue and the "fukinidiot" Rick Delaney (as Kimmage called the Aqua-Blue owner earlier this year)
I've been an Aqua-Blue fan ever since

where did he call him that ?

 

[Jancouver]

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I feel kinda stupid for asking this, but what's the story behind the jersey Aru was holding up on the podium?
I mean, I figure it's got something to do with Scarponi...

I like how they added the flags of the riders at the Italian nats.

Who would've figured they're Italian.

They did the same thing in Denmark. And they didn't even think to put a little Faroese flag next to Veyhe.
Ya know, just to confuse people.
Put Danish flags next to the riders. Not Italian, that would have been confusing.

That was Scarponi's jersey, the swapped jerseys durning the Sierra Nevada training camp and Aru actually wore it durning the race.

Thats pretty awesome!

 

[dick the quick]

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So how many national champions will be in the Tour?

France: Démare
Belgium: Naesen
Netherlands: Sinkeldam
Germany: Burghardt
Italy: Aru
Slovakia: J. Sagan

Spain: Herrada?
UK: ?

Czech: Stybar

I don't think Stybar is in the Tour, but I added Henao for Colombia.

You can also add TT champions, even if they won't have too much time to show their NC jerseys/skinsuits:

Belgium: Lampaert (TBC)
Colombia: Pantano
Ethiopia: Grmay (TBC)
France: Latour (TBC)
Lithuania: Konovalovas (TBC)
Norway: Boasson Hagen (TBC)
Poland: Kwiatkowski
Spain: Castroviejo (TBC)
Switzerland: Kung
(+Germany: Martin)

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

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So how many national champions will be in the Tour?

France: Démare
Belgium: Naesen
Netherlands: Sinkeldam
Germany: Burghardt
Italy: Aru
Slovakia: J. Sagan

Spain: Herrada?
UK: ?

Czech: Stybar

I don't think Stybar is in the Tour, but I added Henao for Colombia.

He's on the shortlist.

 

[del1962]

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So how many national champions will be in the Tour?

France: Démare
Belgium: Naesen
Netherlands: Sinkeldam
Germany: Burghardt
Italy: Aru
Slovakia: J. Sagan

Spain: Herrada?
UK: ?

Czech: Stybar

I don't think Stybar is in the Tour, but I added Henao for Colombia.

You can also add TT champions, even if they won't have too much time to show their NC jerseys/skinsuits:

Belgium: Lampaert (TBC)
Colombia: Pantano
Ethiopia: Grmay (TBC)
France: Latour (TBC)
Lithuania: Konovalovas (TBC)
Norway: Boasson Hagen (TBC)
Poland: Kwiatkowski
Spain: Castroviejo (TBC)
Switzerland: Kung
(+Germany: Martin)

I am going out on a limb here and will say both British Jerseys will be at the tour.

 

[SKSemtex]

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Juraj won by almost 10 minutes

Slovakia has race together with Czech Republic. Only few minutes after start the breakaway formed and in it were approximately 13 Czech (including Stybar, Vakoc and Kreuziger) and only 1 Slovkak - Juraj Sagan. Peloton was not able to bring it back so Jurak took an easy win.

Quite disrespectful towards all fans that came in huge amount to see P.Sagan riding.
It is nice that Peter wants his brother to wear the national jersey, but I am pretty sure those thousands of people would prefer the real fight between him and Styby. I am very disappointed.
Sunday after lunch riding.

 

[RedheadDane]

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Juraj won by almost 10 minutes

Slovakia has race together with Czech Republic. Only few minutes after start the breakaway formed and in it were approximately 13 Czech (including Stybar, Vakoc and Kreuziger) and only 1 Slovkak - Juraj Sagan. Peloton was not able to bring it back so Jurak took an easy win.

Quite disrespectful towards all fans that came in huge amount to see P.Sagan riding.
It is nice that Peter wants his brother to wear the national jersey, but I am pretty sure those thousands of people would prefer the real fight between him and Styby. I am very disappointed.
Sunday after lunch riding.

Well, I suppose the moment Juraj managed to sneak away with the Czechs Peter (and Kolar and Baska) weren't exactly gonna chase him.

BTW: this might have been asked before, but I just forgot the answer:
What's the rule regarding riders of different nationalities, but on the same trade team? For example if Konig had been in that front group; could anyone have stopped Juraj from helping him? They're still team-mates.

 

[dick the quick]

List of all 2017 national champions, updated as of yesterday, is available here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_national_road_cycling_championships

 

[Vesica]

Jungels was angry about not winning the TT, so he decided to smash the RR? He won by 9.11 minutes :surprised: :surprised:

 

[Alexandre B.]

List of all 2017 national champions, updated as of yesterday, is available here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_national_road_cycling_championships

Poor Lottos.

 

[SoigneurNL]

List of all 2017 national champions, updated as of yesterday, is available here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_national_road_cycling_championships

Poor Lottos.

Best post of 2017 and probably best post of 2018 too

 

[Jagartrott]

Naesen was especially pleased to be Belgian champ because 'now could finally get rid of the brown bibs'.

 

[RedheadDane]

Just for fun, here's a list of people who became national champions despite flying solo (only RR, coz it's part of the definition of ITTs that you fly solo.)

Men:

Bruno Arauajo - Angola (no team)
Nikolai Shumov - Belarus (no team)
Josip Rumac - Croatia (Synergy Baku)
Alexandros Agrotis - Cyprus (no team)
Mads Pedersen - Denmark (Trek-Segrafredo)
Meron Berhane - Eritrea (no team)
Gert Joeäär - Estonia (no team)
Hailemelekot Hailu - Ethiopia (no team)
Matti Manninen - Finland (FixIT.no)
Charalampos Kastrantas - Greece (Dare Viator Partizan)
Ryan Mullen - Ireland (Cannondale-Drapac)
Krist Neilands - Latvia (Israel Cycling Academy)
Ignatas Konovalovas - Lithuania (FDJ)
Bob Jungels - Luxembourg (Quick-Step Floors)
Essaïd Abelouache - Morocco (no team)
Till Drobisch - Namibia (no team)
Gasore Hategeka - Rwanda (no team)
Choon Huat Goh - Singapore (Terengganu Cycling Team)
Luka Mezgec - Slovenia (Orica-SCOTT)
Ali Nouisri - Tunisia (no team)
Yousif Mirza - United Arab Emirates (UAE Team Emirates)
Larry Warbasse - USA (Aqua Blue Sport)
Richard Mascarañas - Uruguay (no team)

Women:

Martina Ritter - Austria (Drops)
Jolien D'Hoore - Belgium (Wiggle High5)
Natalia Navarro - Costa Rica (no team)
Mia Radotic - Croatia (BTC City Ljubljana)
Arlenis Sierra - Cuba (Astana)
Antri Christoforou - Cyprus (Servetto Giusta)
Nikola Nosková - Czech Republic (Bepink–Cogeas)
Lotta Lepistö - Finland (Cervélo–Bigla Pro Cycling)
Nicolle Bruderer - Guatemale (Tibco–Silicon Valley Bank)
Omer Shapira - Israel (Giusfredi–Bianchi)
Eri Yonamine - Japan (FDJ Nouvelle-Aquitaine Futuroscope)
Lija Laizāne - Latvia (Aromitalia Vaiano)
Daiva Tuslaite - Lithuania (Alé–Cipollini)
Christine Majerus - Luxembourg (Boels-Dolmans)
Ingrid Drexel - Mexico (Tibco–Silicon Valley Bank)
Nadia Skoukdi - Morocco (no team)
Vera Adrian - Namibia (Bizkaia–Durango)
Rushlee Buchanan - New Zealand (UnitedHealthcare)
Karolina Karasiewicz - Poland (no team)
Ana Covrig - Romania (Top Girls Fassa Bortolo)
Anastasia Iakovenko - Russia (no team)
Yi Wei Luo - Singapore (no team)
Alzbeta Pavlendova - Slovakia (no team)
Heidi Dalton - South Africa (Aromitalia Vaiano)
Sheyla Gutiérrez - Spain (Cylance Pro Cycling)
Nicole Hanselmann - Switzerland (Cervélo–Bigla Pro Cycling)

(Please correct me if I'm wrong, or there's anyone I've forgotten)

 

[DNP-Old]

This was hard to watch. The startpodium in the CRI in Costa Rica: https://www.facebook.com/crciclismo/videos/vb.276067275737025/1609875099022896/?type=2&theater. Really have hit rock bottom.

 

[RedheadDane]

Not much podium about that... :lol:

 

[deneb]

Re:

Just for fun, here's a list of people who became national champions despite flying solo (only RR, coz it's part of the definition of ITTs that you fly solo.)

(Please correct me if I'm wrong, or there's anyone I've forgotten)

I think some of the riders you labeled as no team are wrong because they are in amateur/U23 teams, often in their home country

 

[janraaskalt]

This was hard to watch. The startpodium in the CRI in Costa Rica: https://www.facebook.com/crciclismo/videos/vb.276067275737025/1609875099022896/?type=2&theater. Really have hit rock bottom.

They even had to clip in. :surprised: