2017 Volta Ciclista a Catalunya, March 20-26, WT

[King Boonen]

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The dawg won't enjoy seeing that white stuff a the side of the road

Sky should hire Robbie Fowler to teach him proper technique...

 

[rei_da_montanha]

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Acording the rules you cant go uphill even with your bike if you are by feet. And we see that lot of times in cycling, for instance in Aia, Montelupone or other walls... No rider must pay a big mistake by the TDF, it would have been unfair...
I agree what you said about yesterday stage stuff, but that is another story. I am sure that if is Mollema or Quitana who were running would have been the same, becouse the mistake was from le Tour, and you cant stop le Tour.

That's the problem. Froome wasn´t with his bike when he decided to run in Ventoux.

lol, still hurting :lol:

Why should it hurt?

I can see that it bothers you the theme. Sorry.

 

[GraftPunk]

WTF is up with all the weird nationalism? Mods probably need to step on this before it gets out of hand...

 

[DFA123]

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I can't wait to see what will happen when Porte gets a sticky bottle or Greg van Avermaet (altho I very much like him) uses the pavement. I assume it will be okay 'coz everyone does it.

I think many people had a massive problem with what happened at Omloop, I certainly did and thought they should have been thrown out.

Unfortunately they weren't though. Just like time limits are not enforced, nor is sneaking under the barrier of a level crossing, or drafting up through the team cars, or slipstreaming a moto, or taking a stick bottle. Now, because of a lot of complaining the UCI has chosen to enforce one relatively minor offence - which makes it look very inconsistent and not impartial

It's clearly the right decision to punish Movistar here - and I wish the rules were consistently applied as well. But equally it's clearly completely incorrect just to punish them because BMC and Trek kicked up loads of fuss about it, while not enforcing most other rules which are broken all the time.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

anyone got any streams that function?

edit: found one

 

[Angliru]

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Acording the rules you cant go uphill even with your bike if you are by feet. And we see that lot of times in cycling, for instance in Aia, Montelupone or other walls... No rider must pay a big mistake by the TDF, it would have been unfair...
I agree what you said about yesterday stage stuff, but that is another story. I am sure that if is Mollema or Quitana who were running would have been the same, becouse the mistake was from le Tour, and you cant stop le Tour.

That's the problem. Froome wasn´t with his bike when he decided to run in Ventoux.

lol, still hurting :lol:

Every post a gloat, prod and/or poke. You should be so proud.

 

[movingtarget]

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Acording the rules you cant go uphill even with your bike if you are by feet. And we see that lot of times in cycling, for instance in Aia, Montelupone or other walls... No rider must pay a big mistake by the TDF, it would have been unfair...
I agree what you said about yesterday stage stuff, but that is another story. I am sure that if is Mollema or Quitana who were running would have been the same, becouse the mistake was from le Tour, and you cant stop le Tour.

That's the problem. Froome wasn´t with his bike when he decided to run in Ventoux.

Yes, but it is the same if you are with your bike if you read the rules...Rules has no sense...
But the question there is that all the final part of the stage was cancelled, and it was the feared decission. In normal conditions...with all the climb and normal peo`le..Froome would have got time to his rivals, so he was the most damaged by the Tour big mistake...[/quote]

If Froome had taken a time loss on the Ventoux the race would have been much more exciting.

 

[King Boonen]

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I can't wait to see what will happen when Porte gets a sticky bottle or Greg van Avermaet (altho I very much like him) uses the pavement. I assume it will be okay 'coz everyone does it.

I think many people had a massive problem with what happened at Omloop, I certainly did and thought they should have been thrown out.

Unfortunately they weren't though. Just like time limits are not enforced, nor is sneaking under the barrier of a level crossing, or drafting up through the team cars, or slipstreaming a moto, or taking a stick bottle. Now, because of a lot of complaining the UCI has chosen to enforce one relatively minor offence - which makes it look very inconsistent and not impartial

It's clearly the right decision to punish Movistar here - and I wish the rules were consistently applied as well. But equally it's clearly completely incorrect just to punish them because BMC and Trek kicked up loads of fuss about it, while not enforcing most other rules which are broken all the time.

Hopefully they will continue to enforce the rules consistently, but I doubt it'll happen. I seem to remember a good few people being annoyed about Omloop, I was also very annoyed at Roubaix last year(?) when they could easily have expelled many riders and didn't. Same when the grupetto "protest" happened in the, I think, Vuelta.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Hermans dropped. 1 minute behind the main group now. Break have just over a minute with 14km to go.

 

[kenk09]

Ben Hermans, De Marchi, Quinziato, Marco Pinotti. Just a bunch of moaning Anglos.

but the ones always complain are the anglo-saxon hypocrits, not the rest. It was the case yesterday again. They have more followers on twitter are are more popular, it seems

The ones I listed all moaned about it on twitter. Quinziato and Pinotti (obviously) weren't even riding, but still felt it necessary to comment.

 

[Valv.Piti]

The grupetto thing was the worst, IMO. I had a big problem with that. The Omloop thing was so-so, everyone did it and if you didn't, you would compromise your chances or flat out get dropped.

 

[King Boonen]

Ben Hermans, De Marchi, Quinziato, Marco Pinotti. Just a bunch of moaning Anglos.

but the ones always complain are the anglo-saxon hypocrits, not the rest. It was the case yesterday again. They have more followers on twitter are are more popular, it seems

Remind me, where did the complaints come from when Demare won Milano-Sanremo last year?

 

[DFA123]

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I can't wait to see what will happen when Porte gets a sticky bottle or Greg van Avermaet (altho I very much like him) uses the pavement. I assume it will be okay 'coz everyone does it.

I think many people had a massive problem with what happened at Omloop, I certainly did and thought they should have been thrown out.

Unfortunately they weren't though. Just like time limits are not enforced, nor is sneaking under the barrier of a level crossing, or drafting up through the team cars, or slipstreaming a moto, or taking a stick bottle. Now, because of a lot of complaining the UCI has chosen to enforce one relatively minor offence - which makes it look very inconsistent and not impartial

It's clearly the right decision to punish Movistar here - and I wish the rules were consistently applied as well. But equally it's clearly completely incorrect just to punish them because BMC and Trek kicked up loads of fuss about it, while not enforcing most other rules which are broken all the time.

Hopefully they will continue to enforce the rules consistently, but I doubt it'll happen. I seem to remember a good few people being annoyed about Omloop, I was also very annoyed at Roubaix last year(?) when they could easily have expelled many riders and didn't. Same when the grupetto "protest" happened in the, I think, Vuelta.

Let's hope so. And hopefully the UCI do it off their own back; they don't just wait for protests or complaints before acting on anything blatant caught on TV. Teams and riders should have nothing to do with enforcing the rules or complaining - because then there is the risk that bigger teams or those with influence in higher places can benefit.

 

[King Boonen]

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The grupetto thing was the worst, IMO. I had a big problem with that. The Omloop thing was so-so, everyone did it and if you didn't, you would compromise your chances or flat out get dropped.

Yeah, I remember a lot of angry people when the grupetto took the p*ss, because it was very obvious that the "protest" excuse was come up with after the fact. Omloop they should have just relegated the front 4. Harsh maybe but it'll stop it happening again.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Big gear Weenig attacks, but he will soon be consumed by the Sky train....

 

[Geraint Too Fast]

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Hermans dropped. 1 minute behind the main group now. Break have just over a minute with 14km to go.

Is this a race thread?

 

[King Boonen]

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I can't wait to see what will happen when Porte gets a sticky bottle or Greg van Avermaet (altho I very much like him) uses the pavement. I assume it will be okay 'coz everyone does it.

I think many people had a massive problem with what happened at Omloop, I certainly did and thought they should have been thrown out.

Unfortunately they weren't though. Just like time limits are not enforced, nor is sneaking under the barrier of a level crossing, or drafting up through the team cars, or slipstreaming a moto, or taking a stick bottle. Now, because of a lot of complaining the UCI has chosen to enforce one relatively minor offence - which makes it look very inconsistent and not impartial

It's clearly the right decision to punish Movistar here - and I wish the rules were consistently applied as well. But equally it's clearly completely incorrect just to punish them because BMC and Trek kicked up loads of fuss about it, while not enforcing most other rules which are broken all the time.

Hopefully they will continue to enforce the rules consistently, but I doubt it'll happen. I seem to remember a good few people being annoyed about Omloop, I was also very annoyed at Roubaix last year(?) when they could easily have expelled many riders and didn't. Same when the grupetto "protest" happened in the, I think, Vuelta.

Let's hope so. And hopefully the UCI do it off their own back; they don't just wait for protests or complaints before acting on anything blatant caught on TV. Teams and riders should have nothing to do with enforcing the rules or complaining - because then there is the risk that bigger teams or those with influence in higher places can benefit.

I wonder how much training and professional development the commisaires get/do? This could be a huge part of the issue.

Locally they have decided to enforce team kit rules in TTs here. It means if an amateur moves from one club to another they have to fork out £250+ for a new skinsuit or race in plain (non-black) kit, which is unlikely to be a skinsuit...

 

[rick james]

Landa not in the train?

 

[b.broadhurst]

Only just tuned in.

Did Landa and Rosa do work on the previous climb?

Dropped from this group already is surprising.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Thomas in front of Froome in the train, seems like Froome is their leader

 

[wheresmybrakes]

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Landa not in the train?

Probably saving him for other stages. Or he just having a crap day!

 

[b.broadhurst]

Good to see Kennaugh back though, fit and healthy.

 

[rick james]

trek attacking

 

[Alv23]

Pantano

 

[rick james]

Bauke dropped by his own team