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Link to Kant - whine with Marx.
Rechtschreibfehler said:Rape Culture Poster Boy again...
Link to Kant - whine with Marx.
Rechtschreibfehler said:Rape Culture Poster Boy again...
This... GVA thinks he is better than gilbert but he isn't in this type of classics so he should race for gilbert todayPirazziattacks said:It's almost reached the point where there's no point in picking Gilbert and GVA in the same team. They'll both be there at the end, but they'll never work together.SKSemtex said:Belgium did not deserve to win. They had a team to get rid of Peter when he was riding in the back.
GuyIncognito said:movingtarget said:it always depends on which wheelsucker wins of course. Moral indignation seems to be quite mild at the moment.
In my case it's because I know Sagan has some very staunch defenders here and I don't want to pick a fight. This was a Gerrans win, as most of his are, but I'm letting it go because I don't have 4 hours.
Yep, it's ridiculous to blame Sagan for using the best tactic to win the race. He rode it to perfection. The fault lies with the course not being selective enough, so that guy can become WC without attacking or putting his nose in the wind once.More Strides than Rides said:I need to come up with a google extension that replaces every instance of "wheelsucker" with "cyclist".
Because that's just cycling. Sometimes it's your job to drop everyone else, but sometimes it's everyone else's job to drop you. You might as well criticize the guy for eating and drinking during the race.
So you suggest a grand collective change in values or what?DFA123 said:I think it's time the WC was valued less than the other monuments. Certainly lower than PR , RVV or LBL. It's basically been an easy version of Milan Sanremo these last few years. Kudos to Sagan for winning, but the fact that he can still put out such a strong sprint compared with the other monuments, shows how relatively easy it has become.
Not a boring race. But a predictable end nonetheless. I feel like they could have done more to prevent a sprint, especially Belgiummarkene2 said:Dont think it was a boring race at all tbh
It was a very fast race and the climb wasn't hard enough.Andy262 said:Think smaller teams would make for a better race. Not sure why Belgium didn't do more to get rid of the sprinters.
portugal11 said:Sagan is not a sprinter to me. He is a classicomano (for me), he has potential to win milan san remo and harder races like liege or roubaixMaaaaaaaarten said:portugal11 said:I just don't want a sprinter to win
portugal11 said:Sagan is the real deal guys. He is such a beast!! Another year with the rainbow jersey
I'm confused are you happy with a sprinter winning or not? Your second post reads like celebrating a sprinter winning a bunch sprint.![]()
Sure, but I'm allowed to say that I'd rather have had anybody else on the podium. This might lead to more teams in the future to just sit back and do this, which would just kill every single race. I'd rather riders who actually did something in the race to win. Sagan wasn't one of them.jaylew said:Uh...it's cycling. Virtually the entire sport is shaped around "wheelsucking" if this was an example of it. This was just normal racing - a sprint finish. This wasn't like a Gerrans-Cancellara at MSR situation.Brullnux said:The race itself wasn't bad at all I don't think, much better than the previous two years. But the podium is pretty terrible, a vidication of wheelsucking. At least Norway did something I guess.
Well, at least we witnessed history. Credit where credit is due - love him or hate him, Sagan is a marvel
Geelong was awesome. It should be possible to have an easier route for people other than the Ardenne specialists without it necessarily becoming a bunch sprint, if only people actually rode to maximize their chances of victory. It's stupid to wait until the last 60 km to get serious on a course like this.Valv.Piti said:It just comes down to bad routes. Ponferrada was meh, Richmond was bad, Doha was Doha and Bergen was also meh. The harder the race (Mendrisio and Firenze lately), the better the race. Thats why Innsbruck will be great.
Dekker_Tifosi said:Not a boring race. But a predictable end nonetheless. I feel like they could have done more to prevent a sprint, especially Belgiummarkene2 said:Dont think it was a boring race at all tbh
jaylew said:Uh...it's cycling. Virtually the entire sport is shaped around "wheelsucking" if this was an example of it. This was just normal racing - a sprint finish. This wasn't like a Gerrans-Cancellara at MSR situation.Brullnux said:The race itself wasn't bad at all I don't think, much better than the previous two years. But the podium is pretty terrible, a vidication of wheelsucking. At least Norway did something I guess.
Well, at least we witnessed history. Credit where credit is due - love him or hate him, Sagan is a marvel
I think some people on here would be better off watching non drafting triathlons half the time.DFA123 said:Yep, it's ridiculous to blame Sagan for using the best tactic to win the race. He rode it to perfection. The fault lies with the course not being selective enough, so that guy can become WC without attacking or putting his nose in the wind once.More Strides than Rides said:I need to come up with a google extension that replaces every instance of "wheelsucker" with "cyclist".
Because that's just cycling. Sometimes it's your job to drop everyone else, but sometimes it's everyone else's job to drop you. You might as well criticize the guy for eating and drinking during the race.
I find the complaints so weird. Sagan won because he didn't waste energy, whereas Matthews tried to follow the move on the climb and couldn't- meaning that he didn't have it in the sprint.jaylew said:Uh...it's cycling. Virtually the entire sport is shaped around "wheelsucking" if this was an example of it. This was just normal racing - a sprint finish. This wasn't like a Gerrans-Cancellara at MSR situation.Brullnux said:The race itself wasn't bad at all I don't think, much better than the previous two years. But the podium is pretty terrible, a vidication of wheelsucking. At least Norway did something I guess.
Well, at least we witnessed history. Credit where credit is due - love him or hate him, Sagan is a marvel
alspacka said:Reducing Sagan to the label of sprinter is ridiculous, especially when used in a obviously pejorative sense. You see his interview? The guy looks deathly pale, he just won a third consecutive worlds whilst genuinely ill.
Brullnux said:Sure, but I'm allowed to say that I'd rather have had anybody else on the podium. This might lead to more teams in the future to just sit back and do this, which would just kill every single race. I'd rather riders who actually did something in the race to win. Sagan wasn't one of them.jaylew said:Uh...it's cycling. Virtually the entire sport is shaped around "wheelsucking" if this was an example of it. This was just normal racing - a sprint finish. This wasn't like a Gerrans-Cancellara at MSR situation.Brullnux said:The race itself wasn't bad at all I don't think, much better than the previous two years. But the podium is pretty terrible, a vidication of wheelsucking. At least Norway did something I guess.
Well, at least we witnessed history. Credit where credit is due - love him or hate him, Sagan is a marvel
alspacka said:Reducing Sagan to the label of sprinter is ridiculous, especially when used in a obviously pejorative sense. You see his interview? The guy looks deathly pale, he just won a third consecutive worlds whilst genuinely ill.