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2017 Worlds BERGEN, Norway, TTT, Sunday 17th Sept

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Tarnum said:
The difference between Team Sparebanken Sør (slowest male team) and the Sunweb women, was smaller than that between the Sunweb men and Trek.

The way I see it, an extremely weak 3rd division men's team (consisting, I believe, of only 11 riders aged 19-25) beat the fastest women's team in the world by nearly 2 and a half minutes.
 
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yaco said:
The ITT is Dennis' to lose as he's been the best TTer in 2017 - He's much better suited with the length of the course which is 31km.
Dennis rode 3 ITT's this year. He won all three, but none of them were in a gt where the TT specialists are usually at their best so not sure if he is really the clear favorite like you say. I'd rather put my money on Dumoulin
 
Quinziato wasnt going to be better than Tejay on that course ...remember Tejay was still there whne . Oss and Senni were dropped ...should not have been picked imo because of the climb

Sunweb won it on the climb ...it made the difference ....hence why Quickstep & Orica were so below par

SKY lost it on the climb cos of Thomas not having legs and Doull not being a climbing TTer
 
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Ruby United said:
Tarnum said:
The difference between Team Sparebanken Sør (slowest male team) and the Sunweb women, was smaller than that between the Sunweb men and Trek.

The way I see it, an extremely weak 3rd division men's team (consisting, I believe, of only 11 riders aged 19-25) beat the fastest women's team in the world by nearly 2 and a half minutes.

Its one of the best continental teams with riders in U23..
http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Baltic_Chain_Tour_2017

Extremely weak is very bad description of this team.
 
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HelloDolly said:
Quinziato wasnt going to be better than Tejay on that course ...remember Tejay was still there whne . Oss and Senni were dropped ...should not have been picked imo because of the climb

Sunweb won it on the climb ...it made the difference ....hence why Quickstep & Orica were so below par

SKY lost it on the climb cos of Thomas not having legs and Doull not being a climbing TTer

I think he would have. He'd have drilled far more with Dennis, Kung, Oss and Dillier with being in all their previous lineups. The climb was important but only in that it dropped the riders who weren't feeling great. Sunweb won it by having their team together at the end of it for the last 10k
 
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Monte said:
Ruby United said:
Tarnum said:
The difference between Team Sparebanken Sør (slowest male team) and the Sunweb women, was smaller than that between the Sunweb men and Trek.

The way I see it, an extremely weak 3rd division men's team (consisting, I believe, of only 11 riders aged 19-25) beat the fastest women's team in the world by nearly 2 and a half minutes.

Its one of the best continental teams with riders in U23..
http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Baltic_Chain_Tour_2017

Extremely weak is very bad description of this team.

I'm sure they are one of "the best continental teams with riders in U23." But I was talking relative to the other teams we saw on today's course.
 
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Still its not extremely weak to be one of the best U23 Continental teams and get beat with with one min per 10 km by Sunweb WT team. Words matter. :D
 
Kämna is very young - he turned 21 just eight days ago. Even in 2018 he would still be eligible for the U23 races at the worlds. That being said, his palmares is quite impressive for his age:

Junior World Champion ITT
U23 European Champion ITT
Winner of the German national racing series, the Bundesliga
German Hillclimb Champion

He's talented as hell, that's for sure.
 
Monte said:
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Monte said:
WHo is this Lennard Kämna , 21 year old from Germany that is on Team SUnweb? DAmn .. Never heard of him.

Someone hasn't been following cycling closely recently.


Ive seen the procyclingstats as u have, dont even try it kid.
Kamna is a huge talent in both TT's and climbing. He's been followed closely on the youth circuit, and he got top 10 in the Vuelta ITT, while dropping out the next day.
 
Monte said:
Ruby United said:
Monte said:
WHo is this Lennard Kämna , 21 year old from Germany that is on Team SUnweb? DAmn .. Never heard of him.

Someone hasn't been following cycling closely recently.


Ive seen the procyclingstats as u have, dont even try it kid.

I have been keeping an eye on Kamna since he won 2014 UCI WC ITT at the age of 18.
The last two years I have bought him on PCM in every career I play and developed him into a GT winner.
And check out this years Vuelta ITT:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=33575&hilit=Vuelta+Stage+16&start=100

You can read my post about him there, if you want.
 
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Ruby United said:
Monte said:
Ruby United said:
Monte said:
WHo is this Lennard Kämna , 21 year old from Germany that is on Team SUnweb? DAmn .. Never heard of him.

Someone hasn't been following cycling closely recently.


Ive seen the procyclingstats as u have, dont even try it kid.

I have been keeping an eye on Kamna since he won 2014 UCI WC ITT at the age of 18.
The last two years I have bought him on PCM in every career I play and developed him into a GT winner.
And check out this years Vuelta ITT:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=33575&hilit=Vuelta+Stage+16&start=100

You can read my post about him there, if you want.

Well i havent, but congratulations.
 
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Gigs_98 said:
yaco said:
The ITT is Dennis' to lose as he's been the best TTer in 2017 - He's much better suited with the length of the course which is 31km.
Dennis rode 3 ITT's this year. He won all three, but none of them were in a gt where the TT specialists are usually at their best so not sure if he is really the clear favorite like you say. I'd rather put my money on Dumoulin

Fully agree; their relative records of performing under pressure is very heavily in Dumoulin's favour.

TomD: 2015 Vuelta ITT, 2016 TDF ITT; 2016 Olympics; 2017 Giro ITT, 2014 Worlds
Dennis: 2015 TDF prologue

Yes, Dennis has won TTs at some one-weekers this year; all very creditable but you cannot realistically equate that in any way to a full length GT ITT or ITT medals at Worlds or Olympics. Only once has Dennis been even close to a medal at this level ... and even then, the mechanical probably only took him out of bronze.

Dennis certainly has the talent and, hey, maybe he will do the business come Wednesday but really; his CV (at the highest level) hardly lives up to the hype/reputation.
 
Dennis never came close to something like this tho:

http://www.wielerupdate.nl/uitslagen/18713/ronde-van-het-baskenland-2015-etappe-6-aia-aia/

it included this climb near the end
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