2018 Giro d'Italia, Stage 1: Jerusalem - Jerusalem ITT 9.7 K

[Krokro]

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What about Wellens?

Maybe bottom end top 10, irrelevant for GC.

Agreed, but if he does well tomorrow he can have a shot at the maglia rosa within the first week. The two first stages in Italy could favor breakaway and suit him very well. In that regard, I'm waiting to see the effects of 8-men teams.

 

[pablohidalgo7]

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Perhaps too "mountainous" for Van Emden, maybe his teammate Koen Bouwman can surprise and reach the first 5-10 instead. I think Bouwman will be one of the positive surprises of the Giro, he has clearly become a stronger rider this year.

 

[ferryman]

Rohan should win this with Tom on his heels. I'll throw in a name for someone to watch, Remi Cavagna. No idea how Froome will go on this. I'll take a stab and say he will lose 6 seconds to Tom??!!

 

[Squire]

Dennis to win. Schachmann to podium. Possibly Dumoulin too. Martin, Campenaerts, Lulu somewhere close.

Edit: Checked the odds after writing this. Stuck 10 quid on Schachmann for the win @200. Some serious value

 

[Laplaz]

Pedersen will at least get a Top 5 here i think.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Thanks Flo for starting the first Giro 2018 stage thread.

Personally I've decided to take no interest in the Giro
until next Tuesday when we'll have the Italian start
Catania → Caltagirone.

I vow to make no further comment on GIro related thread until then.
That's them told, I guess.
Ciao.

I did not start any thread
PS I agree with the rest of your statement

 

[sir fly]

Besides already mentioned candidates, I'd say Kiryienka might do well.
Maybe a bit short for him, but the profile looks good for his strength.
Really nice parcours.

 

[memyselfandI]

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Mads Würtz Schmidt..

 

[RedheadDane]

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Mads Würtz Schmidt..

Would be cool, but... pretty unlikely.

 

[Anderis]

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Too hilly and "long" for Van Emden IMO.

Yes, hilly may be an issue for Van Emden, but "long"? He won a 30kms TT last year.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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Rohan Dennis is the big favourite imo. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins by 10 seconds or so. The heat (around 33C predicted for Friday afternoon) suits him as well, as he has shown in Utrecht for example. Doesn't mean the others are without a chance though, along the already mentioned favourites I expect good performances by the Trek-youngsters Pedersen and Mullen.

Utrecht was pan flat, this isn't. The hilly bit makes it suddenly much better for Dumoulin and less so for Dennis, Van Emden and other flat specialists

 

[Krokro]

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Too hilly and "long" for Van Emden IMO.

Yes, hilly may be an issue for Van Emden, but "long"? He won a 30kms TT last year.

I've always seen Van Emden as a pure flat prologue specialist but yeah you can prove me wrong with that stat. I guess it will also depend on his form. Edit: I completely forgot that he indeed won the last stage of the Giro. Maybe as he did not target the GC, he could have ""softpedaled"" the whole thing and kept something in the tank for this one?

Is Dennis more considered as a flat-ITT specialist? I thought he was good on hilly ones since he (used to) climb pretty nicely.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Yeah Dennis is better at the flat ones (much better), even more so when it's short.

Van Emden is actually really good at long flat ITT's as well. Just no hilly ones. I don't know why you see him as a prologue specialist. While he's certainly very good at them, ideal length for van emden would be 25-40km flat

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Btw Van Emden says the prologue is too hard for him, says it's way more uphill then you'd think based on the profile.

 

[rune1107]

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Just open the stage 2 thread already! Dennis has this with one leg.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Yeah, I think the prologue is very hard for a prologue. Great route. Dennis is my favorite but Dumoulin isn't far behind. I think it's gonna be close between the two and they should take the top two spots on the podium. Then it gets wide open for the last podium spot. I actually think that Froome will do great. The course suits him really well and he showed in last year's Tour that he's good on time trials this lenght when he's in form. Campenaerts is my favorite for the third podium spot though, as he's developed into a top tier timetrialist and the route suits him. Kiryienka is flying a bit under the radar here and he's most well-known for his skills in longer ITT's, but he's actually very strong and underrated in short time trials as well. Finally I'll mention Schachmann who seems to be in stellar shape and has been climbing very well lately and the route should suit him perfectly.

My prediction:

1. Dennis
2. Dumoulin
3. Campenaerts
4. Kiryienka
5. Schachmann
6. Froome

 

[Jacques (7 ch)]

Do we have start times/ lists yet?

Édit: idiot, I am

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/giro-ditalia-stage-1-time-trial-start-times/

#153 Dowsett, my tip.

 

[RedheadDane]

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Yeah, I think the prologue is very hard for a prologue. Great route. Dennis is my favorite but Dumoulin isn't far behind. I think it's gonna be close between the two and they should take the top two spots on the podium. Then it gets wide open for the last podium spot. I actually think that Froome will do great. The course suits him really well and he showed in last year's Tour that he's good on time trials this lenght when he's in form. Campenaerts is my favorite for the third podium spot though, as he's developed into a top tier timetrialist and the route suits him. Kiryienka is flying a bit under the radar here and he's most well-known for his skills in longer ITT's, but he's actually very strong and underrated in short time trials as well. Finally I'll mention Schachmann who seems to be in stellar shape and has been climbing very well lately and the route should suit him perfectly.

My prediction:

1. Dennis
2. Dumoulin
3. Campenaerts
4. Kiryienka
5. Schachmann
6. Froome

Isn't the prologue too long to be a prologue?

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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Yeah, I think the prologue is very hard for a prologue. Great route. Dennis is my favorite but Dumoulin isn't far behind. I think it's gonna be close between the two and they should take the top two spots on the podium. Then it gets wide open for the last podium spot. I actually think that Froome will do great. The course suits him really well and he showed in last year's Tour that he's good on time trials this lenght when he's in form. Campenaerts is my favorite for the third podium spot though, as he's developed into a top tier timetrialist and the route suits him. Kiryienka is flying a bit under the radar here and he's most well-known for his skills in longer ITT's, but he's actually very strong and underrated in short time trials as well. Finally I'll mention Schachmann who seems to be in stellar shape and has been climbing very well lately and the route should suit him perfectly.

My prediction:

1. Dennis
2. Dumoulin
3. Campenaerts
4. Kiryienka
5. Schachmann
6. Froome

Isn't the prologue too long to be a prologue?

According to some arbitrary official limit, yes.

 

[hazaran]

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Isn't the prologue too long to be a prologue?

That is why its stage 1.

 

[Jungle Cycle]

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Isn't the prologue too long to be a prologue?

That is why its stage 1.

Exactly..

Dennis should take this one but always find a way to screw up right after...
Hoping for Pedersen top 10...
I guess Poels should do well enough to be ahead of the climbers... maybe even de la Cruz..

 

[RedheadDane]

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Isn't the prologue too long to be a prologue?

That is why its stage 1.

Well, Hugo Koblet referred to it as the "prologue" in his post.

As for the arbitrary limit; in literature a prologue is usually a short opening chapter.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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Isn't the prologue too long to be a prologue?

That is why its stage 1.

Well, Hugo Koblet referred to it as the "prologue" in his post.

As for the arbitrary limit; in literature a prologue is usually a short opening chapter.

And I would describe this as a short opening chapter It's all semantics anyway.

 

[Netserk]

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Isn't the prologue too long to be a prologue?

That is why its stage 1.

Well, Hugo Koblet referred to it as the "prologue" in his post.

As for the arbitrary limit; in literature a prologue is usually a short opening chapter.

And I would describe this as a short opening chapter It's all semantics anyway.

When would you no longer describe it as a short opening chapter?

 

[Laplaz]

Viviani said he will go full-gas here in order to wearing pink on Saturday or Sunday with the bonifications.