2018 Paris-Nice, 4/3-11/3

[Hugo Koblet]

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Fuglsand and Zakarin biggest casualties I think.
Oomen also lost 20 seconds, he didn't fall but got held up.

All other favorites seem ok

But crash was inside 3km

But who would you give them same time as?

 

[HelloDolly]

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Why is Wellens not even an option to win the overall here lol?

I have asked that twice already but no reply

 

[Cance > TheRest]

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Fuglsand and Zakarin biggest casualties I think.
Oomen also lost 20 seconds, he didn't fall but got held up.

All other favorites seem ok

Funny that it was Zakarin's Canyon that made Fuglsang fall

 

[Alexandre B.]

 

[deValtos]

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I don't fully understand how the photos work at the finish.

For example the bikes of Demare and Izagirre are much longer

and both front wheels more elongated than Wellens and Laporte.

Is the photo actually an amalgamation of many photos?

 

[Jagartrott]

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Fuglsand and Zakarin biggest casualties I think.
Oomen also lost 20 seconds, he didn't fall but got held up.

All other favorites seem ok

But crash was inside 3km

This doesn't count as a flat stage.
There was also a KOM on the last hill.

 

[Irondan]

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Why is Wellens not even an option to win the overall here lol?

I have asked that twice already but no reply

Polls only allow 10 options, someone is always going to get left out.

 

[can3478]

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Fuglsand and Zakarin biggest casualties I think.
Oomen also lost 20 seconds, he didn't fall but got held up.

All other favorites seem ok

But crash was inside 3km

But who would you give them same time as?

I like to know too. Usually everyone came in together(sprint stage) , but today, there are gaps.

 

[Sestriere]

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Man, I got so excited when they were calling Haussler..

Me too, I have him in my cq team.

I reckon, that's a valid reason. After all his bad luck I was just hoping for him to leave it all behind.

 

[can3478]

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Why is Wellens not even an option to win the overall here lol?

I have asked that twice already but no reply

Polls only allow 10 options, someone is always going to get left out.

In that case, why are there 3 sky riders in the poll?

 

[Valv.Piti]

Ugh, that was very unlucky for Gorka... never seen him sprint that well.

Jesus Herrada also got held up in the crash, I rider I thought could get a top-5 in this race with the climbing legs he has displayed so far. Fuglsang again messed up P-N.

 

[El Pistolero]

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Why is Wellens not even an option to win the overall here lol?

I have asked that twice already but no reply

Polls only allow 10 options, someone is always going to get left out.

Cyclists like Chaves don't stand much of a chance here (poor time trial for starters).

 

[More Strides than Rides]

There is a lot of confusion about finish line photos. Hopefully this can clear things up.

That is not one photo.

Each pixel is one moment in time. The right-most pixel is 1/1000th of a second, the pixel to the left is the 2nd thousandth, etc.

So moving faster, like Wellens was, means you arrive later and leave sooner; your bike will appear shorter.

Looking at the back wheel of Demare and Gorka? doesn't matter, that sliver of the photo was taken thousandths of a second after the front of their wheels already crossed the line. Same with the back of their rear wheel; taken hundredths after the race was already over.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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Fuglsand and Zakarin biggest casualties I think.
Oomen also lost 20 seconds, he didn't fall but got held up.

All other favorites seem ok

But crash was inside 3km

Doesn't matter. Hilltop finish, they will not get the time back.

 

[deValtos]

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There is a lot of confusion about finish line photos. Hopefully this can clear things up.

That is not one photo.

Each pixel is one moment in time. The right-most pixel is 1/1000th of a second, the pixel to the left is the 2nd thousandth, etc.

So moving faster, like Wellens was, means you arrive later and leave sooner; your bike will appear shorter

Ahhhh, many thanks. This makes sense.

 

[tobydawq]

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I don't fully understand how the photos work at the finish.

For example the bikes of Demare and Izagirre are much longer

and both front wheels more elongated than Wellens and Laporte.

Is the photo actually an amalgamation of many photos?

Yes, it is. It's one-dimensional photos taken exactly at the finish line aligned so as to give a meaningful two-dimensional picture.

The bikes of Wellens and Laporte seem shorter because they passed the line at higher speed.

 

[Irondan]

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Why is Wellens not even an option to win the overall here lol?

I have asked that twice already but no reply

Polls only allow 10 options, someone is always going to get left out.

Cyclists like Chaves don't stand much of a chance here (poor time trial for starters).

No doubt, but there's plenty of mountains for him to make up some time.

I don't realistically think that Chaves will be there in the end, but Wellens will be.

 

[KyoGrey]

Thank you for the explanations

 

[RedheadDane]

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Fuglsand and Zakarin biggest casualties I think.
Oomen also lost 20 seconds, he didn't fall but got held up.

All other favorites seem ok

But crash was inside 3km

But who would you give them same time as?

No 3 K rule. Uphill finish.

 

[jaylew]

A shame. Really thought/hoped Gorka had that. He really seems to have stepped up his game in the last year or so

 

[Jagartrott]

To be fair, Démare started the sprint, so it's not like he stole victory. Only 'real' sprinter that was still there.

 

[Alexandre B.]

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To be fair, Démare started the sprint, so it's not like he stole victory. Only 'real' sprinter that was still there.

Christophe Laporte is ashamed.

 

[tobydawq]

What happened to Rui Costa? He came in alone, last, 10 minutes behind the second-last?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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What happened to Rui Costa? He came in alone, last, 10 minutes behind the second-last?

Maybe he is ill or something

 

[Jagartrott]

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To be fair, Démare started the sprint, so it's not like he stole victory. Only 'real' sprinter that was still there.

Christophe Laporte is ashamed.

Laporte transcends categories, so it'd not be fair to include him in any comparison.