2019 Giro d'Italia, Stage 1: Bologna - San Luca ITT 8km

[sir fly]

Rogla and S.Yates equal uphill, right?
Good stage. Looking forward to the coming weeks.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

So looks like top 5 from today are our GC contenders, with Tom needing to show a fair bit more to stay there.

 

[DFA123]

Good day for Roglic, Yates, Lopez and Nibali. Lopez especially surprising. Bad for Dumoulin, Landa and Zakarin - all would probably have expected to go 20-30 seconds faster.

 

[Carols]

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Looking like Contador

PFFFT Not!

 

[Rollthedice]

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So looks like top 5 from today are our GC contenders, with Tom needing to show a fair bit more to stay there.

The same five who were the main contenders before the start.

 

[Pantani_lives]

Landa is the disappointment of the day. One of today's top 5 will probably win the Giro. The question is whether Roglic can maintain this level over three weeks.

 

[Poursuivant]

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So 1st and 2nd favouries end 1st and 2nd

Dumoulin is second favourite, Yates third favourite.

 

[HelloDolly]

So top 6 already decided ...no need to ride for another 3 weeks ...

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Re: Re:

So looks like top 5 from today are our GC contenders, with Tom needing to show a fair bit more to stay there.

The same five who were the main contenders before the start.

But not necessarily the 5 you'd have expected to top this stage

 

[HelloDolly]

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So 1st and 2nd favouries end 1st and 2nd

Dumoulin is second favourite, Yates third favourite.

well they were my favorites today

 

[topt]

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Simon lost only one second to Roglic on the climb

and that is supposed to be good, I thought he was a better climber than Roglic

 

[Blanco]

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Looking like Contador

PFFFT Not!

Only by the fact that he barely sit in the saddle during the climb...

 

[Carols]

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Looking like Contador

PFFFT Not!

Only by the fact that he barely sit in the saddle during the climb...

Okay.

 

[Blanco]

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Simon lost only one second to Roglic on the climb

and that is supposed to be good, I thought he was a better climber than Roglic

He will be in Dolomites

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

1 Roglič Primož Team Jumbo-Visma 37.209 12:54
2 Yates Simon Mitchelton-Scott 36.318 0:19
3 Nibali Vincenzo Bahrain Merida 36.136 0:23
4 López Miguel Ángel Astana Pro Team 35.910 0:28
5 Dumoulin Tom Team Sunweb 35.910 ,,
6 Majka Rafał BORA - hansgrohe 35.688 0:33
7 Geoghegan Hart Tao Team INEOS 35.600 0:35
8 De Plus Laurens Team Jumbo-Visma 35.600 ,,
9 Mollema Bauke Trek - Segafredo 35.424 0:39
10 Caruso Damiano Bahrain Merida 35.381 0:40
11 Bilbao Pello Astana Pro Team 35.294 0:42
12 de la Parte Víctor CCC Team 35.165 0:45
13 Jungels Bob Deceuninck - Quick Step 35.122 0:46
14 Carapaz Richard Movistar Team 35.079 0:47
15 Kangert Tanel EF Education First 35.079 ,,
16 Carthy Hugh EF Education First 35.079 ,,
17 Ulissi Diego UAE-Team Emirates 34.951 0:50
18 Formolo Davide BORA - hansgrohe 34.951 ,,
19 Pozzovivo Domenico Bahrain Merida 34.825 0:53
20 Campenaerts Victor Lotto Soudal 34.825 ,,
21 Haga Chad Team Sunweb 34.783 0:54
22 Knox James Deceuninck - Quick Step 34.657 0:57
23 Navarro Daniel Team Katusha - Alpecin 34.615 0:58
24 Durbridge Luke Mitchelton-Scott 34.615 ,,
25 Cataldo Dario Astana Pro Team 34.574 0:59
26 Chaves Esteban Mitchelton-Scott 34.532 1:00
27 Conti Valerio UAE-Team Emirates 34.491 1:01
28 Sivakov Pavel Team INEOS 34.491 ,,
29 Izagirre Ion Astana Pro Team 34.491 ,,
30 Gallopin Tony AG2R La Mondiale 34.450 1:02

 

[Blanco]

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18 seconds at the split, he surely would have taken that at the start.

Errr no. But we'll see how he's paced it - if he can match Roglic on the climb it's a good start.

He lost a second. Excellent start for Yates.
Roglic, Nibali, Yates the winners today, in that order.

I would say Lopez is the biggest winner today.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Re: Re:

Simon lost only one second to Roglic on the climb

and that is supposed to be good, I thought he was a better climber than Roglic

Roglic is flying at the mo - if anyone can find a decent list of intermediate times we can confirm, but it looks like they're both c. 20 seconds ahead of the pack on a 2km climb. I've got better feelings about Yates maintaining that over 3 weeks than Roglic.

 

[Lequack]

 

[Escarabajo]

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Landa is the disappointment of the day. One of today's top 5 will probably win the Giro. The question is whether Roglic can maintain this level over three weeks.

Not really. Depends on your expectations.

 

[Oude Geuze]

I think Nibali or Dumoulin looks the best, simmering form, ready to build towards 3rd week. Roglic and Yates a bit hot, MAL surprised me, will definitely be a threat now.

 

[sir fly]

The flagbearers from team presentation are also the podium girls.
Do they travel with the race for all three weeks?

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

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I think Nibali or Dumoulin looks the best, simmering form, ready to build towards 3rd week. Roglic and Yates a bit hot, MAL surprised me, will definitely be a threat now.

Lol.

If Yates is a bit hot, then MAL is completely over the top and gone to seed.

And even if MAL is at 100%, Tom should be able to beat him on tick over.

 

[Brullnux]

Re: Re:

Simon lost only one second to Roglic on the climb

and that is supposed to be good, I thought he was a better climber than Roglic

Roglic is flying at the mo - if anyone can find a decent list of intermediate times we can confirm, but it looks like they're both c. 20 seconds ahead of the pack on a 2km climb. I've got better feelings about Yates maintaining that over 3 weeks than Roglic.

Yeah, Ciccone was fastest, then Roglic/Yates, then 20s to De Plus (!), Lopez, Nibali Dumoulin and co. Obviously not a straight comparison because of pacing (Nibali went hard on the flat, Dumoulin went quite slowly, Yates slow but is that just his best?), but Roglic I'd say is a fair bit ahead of others right now. Needless to say the number of variables is such that nobody knows who will be pink in fair verona.

 

[Rollthedice]

It was a perfect stage for Roglic and he delivered. Very good defending by Nibali, in line with expectations. Proper performance by Yates on a climb that suit him well. Unexpected strong performance on the flat by MAL. Dumoulin slightly less than what he's capable. The Giro is on.

 

[tobydawq]

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I think Nibali or Dumoulin looks the best, simmering form, ready to build towards 3rd week. Roglic and Yates a bit hot, MAL surprised me, will definitely be a threat now.

Dumoulin looks by no means the best! This is his sort of stage, he was supposed to have the TTs as his advantage, and he loses to Yates, Nibali and López who even beat him on the flat part.

He looks worse than expected and has been bad all spring. I don't think he will get on the podium, honestly.

I really don't get all this. GT riders are supposed to be good for three weeks, and they usually are.

And Simon Yates has clearly been underdoing it so far this season. Surely, he does not look too good right now. Roglic maybe, but Yates; definitely not.

I also think Landa was the biggest disappointment of the day because there were 6 big favourites for the race; 5 of them did top 5 today, Landa was 36. Very bad. Zakarin was even worse, but I didn't have high expectations for him. Sosa was still worse but it really looks like he has no intentions of trying for the GC.

Surprisingly good performances by Majka, De Plus and Mollema, and I really would not have bet on Víctor de la Parte going top 12!