2020 Tokyo Olympics - road race course

[johnymax]

Shame for Slovenia Mohoric is injured

And Mezgec.

 

[del1962]

Spanish Riders in top 8 on Monday

Rider	Nation	Age	Points
VALVERDE Alejandro (MOV)	ESP	39	2747
LANDA MEANA Mikel (MOV)	ESP	30	1326
HERRADA Jesus (COF)	ESP	29	1072
SANCHEZ Luis León (AST)	ESP	36	979.5
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion (AST)	ESP	30	975.5
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan (TBM)	ESP	24	676
BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello (AST)	ESP	29	634
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka (AST)	ESP	32	625.5

Points so far this week

TVV

Lulu 5
(Verona not in top 8 35)

Milan-Torino
Valverde 150
Ion 30, Gorka 10
(Mas 35 which would take him to 591.12 - so a good result in Lombardia and the top 8 awaits)

Today
Gorka 20

Giving extra 215 to Roglic's 200 for the week.

Closing gap to 15 points

So to be ahead after Lombardia Roglic has to come ahead of all Spanish riders in top 8 plus Mas and hope cumulative total isn't that high

 

[Red Rick]

Spanish Riders in top 8 on Monday

Rider	Nation	Age	Points
VALVERDE Alejandro (MOV)	ESP	39	2747
LANDA MEANA Mikel (MOV)	ESP	30	1326
HERRADA Jesus (COF)	ESP	29	1072
SANCHEZ Luis León (AST)	ESP	36	979.5
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion (AST)	ESP	30	975.5
GARCIA CORTINA Ivan (TBM)	ESP	24	676
BILBAO LOPEZ DE ARMENTIA Pello (AST)	ESP	29	634
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Gorka (AST)	ESP	32	625.5

Points so far this week

TVV

Lulu 5
(Verona not in top 8 35)

Milan-Torino
Valverde 150
Ion 30, Gorka 10
(Mas 35 which would take him to 591.12 - so a good result in Lombardia and the top 8 awaits)

Today
Gorka 20

Giving extra 215 to Roglic's 200 for the week.

Closing gap to 15 points

So to be ahead after Lombardia Roglic has to come ahead of all Spanish riders in top 8 plus Mas and hope cumulative total isn't that high

What's the point distribution for Lombardia?

 

[slosada]

I think Colombia is now safer in the top-6. It had near to 500 points on Slovenia. Today with 200 of Bernal and 150 from Sosa (overtaking Betancur, so it counts for ~136 points in the total).
The fight for 6th keeps being interesting:
Polanc for Slovenia with 5 points, Gorka for Spain with 20, and Germany tries to come back with Buchmann (100 points)

 

[del1962]

What's the point distribution for Lombardia?

FIrst 500
Second 400
Third 325
Forth 275
Fifth 225
Then 175,150,125,100, 85,70
I am going to stop there

 

[search]

if I didn't make any mistakes, these are the current standings, only taking the points scored in 2019 into account:

5 COL 10095,71
6 SLO 9271,40
7 ESP 9260,50
8 GER 9118,66

Slovenia and Spain basically end their season on Sunday, so it'll be Roglic vs Valverde & the Izagirre brothers (and maybe Mas) in Lombardia - and then they need to hope for Germany not so score too much in Paris-Tours & Guangxi

 

[del1962]

if I didn't make any mistakes, these are the current standings, only taking the points scored in 2019 into account:

5 COL 10095,71
6 SLO 9271,40
7 ESP 9260,50
8 GER 9118,66

Slovenia and Spain basically end their season on Sunday, so it'll be Roglic vs Valverde & the Izagirre brothers (and maybe Mas) in Lombardia - and then they need to hope for Germany not so score too much in Paris-Tours & Guangxi

Yeah I missed out Polancs 5 points so just over 20 point difference

Following link you up until Sunday's points the ranking for the Olympics - no need to subtract any of last years scores

https://dataride.uci.ch/Results/ifr...32&rankingTypeId=3&categoryId=22&raceTypeId=0

 

[del1962]

Also Mas would have to finish in top ten to pass Bilbao's points

 

[Koronin]

I'm guessing Mass finishing 13th keeps him outside the top 8 for Spain. At Lombardia Valverde 400, Gorka 30.

I'm thinking 430 points Valverde and Gorka secured should be enough to hold onto that final spot to get the full number of riders for the Olympics.

 

[search]

should be, yes. They have a ~270pt advantage over Slovenia now (not racing anymore, as far as I can see) and ~450pt over Germany.

Ackermann may take a couple of stages in Guangxi (40pt each), but they'd also need Schachmann to fight for the overall victory (300pt) to come close, and he probably isn't in good enough shape again yet to do that (and there's still Mas around who may pick up some points as well)

 

[Koronin]

Yes, as Mas is racing in China to end the season and could still end up earning enough points to be one of the top 8 riders for Spain for points.

Thanks.

 

[sir fly]

Heeeyy, Koronin... How's been in the slammer?

 

[Koronin]

Sir fly

 

[DNP-Old]

should be, yes. They have a ~270pt advantage over Slovenia now (not racing anymore, as far as I can see) and ~450pt over Germany.

Ackermann may take a couple of stages in Guangxi (40pt each), but they'd also need Schachmann to fight for the overall victory (300pt) to come close, and he probably isn't in good enough shape again yet to do that (and there's still Mas around who may pick up some points as well)

There's Degenkolb and Kamna as well. Kamna's miles behind Steimle to make their top 8, but stranger things have happened.

 

[Koronin]

There's Degenkolb and Kamna as well. Kamna's miles behind Steimle to make their top 8, but stranger things have happened.

Mas is more likely to get enough points to be one of Spain's top 8 with points from Guangxi than Kamna, so there's that to consider against anything Kamna might be able to do as well.

 

[Asero831]

So it will be Valverde. Then we have Ion Izaguirre and Castro for the TT.
That leaves two more spots for Soler, Landa, Mas and others

 

[Koronin]

So it will be Valverde. Then we have Ion Izaguirre and Castro for the TT.
That leaves two more spots for Soler, Landa, Mas and others

I would guess Soler and Mas. However, they could put together 2/3 solid teams. I'd think for both current and looking to the future Soler and Mas would be the better options to take.

 

[search]

Spain has one spot for the time trial only though

 

[tobydawq]

Spain has one spot for the time trial only though

And even if they had two, I would pick Soler over Ion there.

 

[del1962]

Current Olympic rankings

Rank	Name	Nation	Points
1	BELGIUM	BEL	13491.09
2	ITALY	ITA	11698.48
3 +1	NETHERLANDS	NED	11138.14
4 -1	FRANCE	FRA	10886.95
5	COLOMBIA	COL	10445.71
6 +1	SPAIN	ESP	9687.62
7 -1	SLOVENIA	SLO	9421.4
8	GERMANY	GER	9205.33
9	AUSTRALIA	AUS	8810.45
10	DENMARK	DEN	8012.46
11	GREAT BRITAIN	GBR	6158.32
12	NORWAY	NOR	5617.59
13	SWITZERLAND	SUI	4003.27
14	POLAND

 

[search]

so to get into 6th, Germany basically needs to win all stages (with Ackermann in the sprints) as well as the GC (with Schachmann) in Guangxi, with Mas not finishing in the top ~10 overall.

The competition is not particularly strong, but this looks highly unlikely

 

[Koronin]

Spain has one spot for the time trial only though

I suspect that will be Castroviejp, who then also has to race the road race. Otherwise, maybe Soler depending on who the TT course looks like?

 

[search]

Turns out Roglic and Tratnik are doing Chrono des Nations next weekend. Even a 1-2 (210 points) would not be enough to get past Spain though

edit: unless Spilak (I missed him on the start list) scores big time in Guangxi

 

[Breezy1985]

The marathons have been moved 800k north to Sapporo due to the heat and humidity in Tokyo at that time of year

 

[dusty red roads]

And so they should! Can't believe they even considered doing them during Tokyo heatwave season.