Giro d'Italia 2022 Giro d'Italia, Stage 2: Budapest – Budapest 9.2 km ITT (Saturday, May 7th)

[gunara]

Any chance Foss come really good and end up being JV best bet towards the end? With Tom's uncertainty and everything

 

[AlfaLum]

He had to postpone the initial one because of Covid and then skipped the ardennes to have a proper one.

Ah you mean the initial one. Well I think his preparation was kind of similar to last year when he was very good until the crash. Also his TT performance back then was quite similar if not worse. So I am not ruling him out of a decent GC spot yet.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Almeida already working for Evenepoel?

 

[Eclipse]

The good thing about Yates leading the way is that everyone knows he is vulnerable so we should hopefully see lots of people keen to regularly test him .

 

[yaco]

Well I guess BEX are happy with the change to Giant this year.

You can say that seeing the riders forced the team to ditch the contract with Bianchi.

 

[Netserk]

Yates 24'' ahead of Carapaz in GC.

 

[Escarabajo]

Does it change anything about the top 5 favorites?
No. Why would it so. Simon was capable of this on any given day and Carapaz did what he had to do. Other riders might have come undercooked to the Giro like Almeida and Lopez. And Landa is placed where he is supposed to be.
So the only question mark is Dumoulin. But do you expect to do great in the mountains based on this stage? No. He is great ITT so the answer is No.
So let's keep walking to stage 4. Maybe we'll learn something new.

 

[KZD]

To put Yates performance into perspective, in 2018 opening TT he lost 20 seconds to Dumoulin in a hilly course while in superb shape, today he beat Dumoulin by 5 seconds in a similar course.
Either Dumoulin is much worse than in 2018 or Giant bikes are truly a wonder.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Any chance Foss come really good and end up being JV best bet towards the end? With Tom's uncertainty and everything

If Dumoulin completely crumbles. I mean, Foss could finish between 5th and 10th but i don't consider him to be in the running for the podium at all.

 

[Red Rick]

TBF we need to see what Yates is doing on the long climbs to make pronouncements on his form. In the Vuelta a Asturias he crushed everybody on the 2-3km climbs which this finale was similar to (but easier than, as El Violeo and Carabanzo are very steep) but had a complete pajará on Acebo.

However, the fact that you don't know which version of him will turn up on any given day is what makes him compelling. Having him and Supermán in the same race is good for unpredictability.

They also add variability tp each other. Will he have a meltdown vs when will he have a meltdown

 

[JosefK]

Yates 24'' ahead of Carapaz in GC.

With Yates, that is good, but it can evaporate in a day.

 

[Red Rick]

To put Yates performance into perspective, in 2018 opening TT he lost 20 seconds to Dumoulin in a hilly course while in superb shape, today he beat Dumoulin by 5 seconds in a similar course.
Either Dumoulin is much worse than in 2018 or Giant bikes are truly a wonder.

Dumo got 3rd today, so mostly the latter

 

[Mayomaniac]

A nice really early tt and a great crowd. I have to say that I enjoyed the first 2 stages.
At least now Ciccone and MAL will probably already try something on Etna.

 

[Bonimenier]

Rick Zabel fastest on the climb.
As expected.

 

[yaco]

They also have Pinotti working with the riders on their TT skills.

Pinotti was with the team in 2021 when the riders ITT was abysmal - It had to be the equipment, seeing that Pinotti is a high calibre coach.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Any chance Foss come really good and end up being JV best bet towards the end? With Tom's uncertainty and everything

Yes, but there's also uncertainty about Foss. He crashed out of Coppi e Bartali before we got to see how well he was going at the time, and then he's been focusing on training since (some of it has been at altitude).

Like Logic says, he might do better than Dumoulin, but I doubt he can finish on the podium.

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

Rick Zabel fastest on the climb.
As expected.

And Eenkhoorn second, what everybody had down.

 

[Netserk]

I also doubt Dumoulin can finish on the podium, so I don't think that says much.

 

[jmdirt]

To put Yates performance into perspective, in 2018 opening TT he lost 20 seconds to Dumoulin in a hilly course while in superb shape, today he beat Dumoulin by 5 seconds in a similar course.
Either Dumoulin is much worse than in 2018 or Giant bikes are truly a wonder.

Either Dumoulin is much worse than in 2018 or Giant bikes are truly a wonder.

Or Yates is better.
Or Dum is worse and Yates is better.
or...

 

[hfer07]

So,
Should we be hopeful on Dumo chances to win?

 

[movingtarget]

Yates has done good TTs before and this course suited him. There are more questions about Dumoulin and his form over three weeks. Landa was better than expected, Almeida maybe the opposite. Expected a bit better for Porte. Solid rides for Nibali and Carapaz.

 

[Netserk]

Most overrated GC chances: Buchmann, Bardet, Dumoulin

Most underrated GC chances: Hindley, Carthy, Foss

 

[JosefK]

Almeida sometimes gets off to an undercooked start in GTs. Today's performance wasn't a disaster.

 

[Red Rick]

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I also doubt Dumoulin can finish on the podium, so I don't think that says much.

2 mini ITTs and both are hilly and technical. Ofcourse its very hard.

 

[Ricco']

Pinotti was with the team in 2021 when the riders ITT was abysmal - It had to be the equipment, seeing that Pinotti is a high calibre coach.

Bianchi was also the bike supplier to Flopotto-Jumbo in 2015 when they were absolute crap in the TTs before improving a lot with a change of supplier in 2016, right?