Vuelta a España 2022 Vuelta a España stage 6(Bilbao > Ascensión al Pico Jano. San Miguel de Aguayo),181,2 km - Mountain

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Alpecin has wasted Vine's talents - He should have ridden the Giro or the TDF when you consider Alpecin's paucity of mountain riders - Jumbo was very disappointing when you consider Roglic had no help on the final climb - Bree Vine is a good rider and is not far from WT standard.
The Vuelta is the least pressured GT, a great race for him to come into his own. Saying Alpecin is wasting Vine’s talents is wholeheartedly false.
 
Alpecin has wasted Vine's talents - He should have ridden the Giro or the TDF when you consider Alpecin's paucity of mountain riders - Jumbo was very disappointing when you consider Roglic had no help on the final climb - Bree Vine is a good rider and is not far from WT standard.
Vine rides with a chip on his shoulder,as they say.
 
Why? Today proves nothing with regard to his capability of winning a GT.

Was he extremely strong today? Sure. He was clearly superior to most of the other riders.
Does he appear to be the main favorite to win the race at this point? Sure.

Does that prove that he is capable of sustaining this kind of performance over 3 weeks and win a GT? Absolutely not. It's the first week of a three-week race.
Clearly you don't get it.
 
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How are they wasting his talents? It’s only his second season at the pro level and he’s still adapting to a different style of racing in Europe. They are giving him time to develop and getting a Vuelta stage win will do his confidence wonders, the Tour and Giro are high pressure races. I think Alpecin are doing a great job with him.

Alpecin went into the Giro and the TDF with no climbers - It was a no brainer for him to ride the Giro - Remember that Alpecin is not a GC team and with their paucity of climbers are mostly invisible in mountain stages.
 
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Sad to see Carapaz dropping out of GC today, but he hasn't looked good already on tuesday. But it seems like it will be an interesting Vuelta, happy to see Mas back and excited what Evenepoel, Ayuso, Roglic, Hindley and some others can do.
 
Mighty performance by Evenepoel. Probably takes even more time on Tuesday.

The question remains if he can keep this level for 3 weeks. He's prone for having off days. So his opponents will keep the pressure high no matter how hopeless it looks right now.

Mas & Ayuso surprisingly strong. Although Mas looked good in spring already. Being able to follow Pogacar and Vingegaard at Tirreno - Adriatico and being the first favorite to attack at Basque Country. Only crashed hard in the descend twice.

Can Ayuso hold this for 3 weeks at 19 years old?

Arensman defended himself well actually, finishing in the big favorites group. He's going to take time in ITT actually, and might be better off at Pandera & especially Sierra Nevada once he's found his rhythm.

Tao Geoghegan Hart actually looked strongest Ineos rider IMHO. At least if you consider that he actually had to work and ride position and still was on the same level as Sivakov after all.

Roglic isn't our of it. Should still take significant time on everyone bar Evenepoel and maybe Almeida & Arensman on Tuesday. Probably gets stronger towards Sierra Nevada. If Evenepoel has a bad day he's still in contention.

Hindley looks decent. Depends a bit on how the shape of others develops from here on whether he can put a bid for a podium placement.

Carapaz and Landa clearly off pace.

Almeida is solid. A strong TT on Tuesday was always needed. But Ayuso is up for Co-leadership now.

It's going to be an interesting Vuelta a Espana from here on I think.

In contrary to Blockhaus & Planche des Belles Filles this stage to Pico Jano fully delivered!
 
Him writing all that stuff, to then conclude what he does is mindboggling. Shaking my head, just as hard as I was shaking my head listened to Brian Nygaard yesterday on the Cycling Podcast.

but brian nygaard prefaced everything he said by basically saying he did not like remco much.

hate can blind.

as we have evidenced multiple times on these forums.
 
Sorry, I'm with Fantastico on this. It's still week 1. We know Remco can be this strong in one-week races, as he has done it multiple times. We know he has the strength to drop the best. We don't know whether he can do that in week 3 yet, because the only comparison point we have is the 2021 Giro, where he was among the very best on the first couple of mountain stages but faded away after a variety of mishaps - but he's now 16 months older, wiser and stronger and the team is better set up for him too (they even reviewed the policy of letting Fausto Masnada have John Gadret as his own personal DS mid-stage). Most of us seem to assume he can, and not without reason, but we don't know that yet. Retrofitting this to say something new about Remco the GT racer can only be done after the fact, once the rest of the race has played out. Signs are promising, but as forever seems to be the case where Evenepoel is concerned, opinions are going to be wildly polarised and strongly-held such that even just saying to pump the brakes on crowning him the champion until a bit deeper into the race seems to be enough to spark hostile debate.

The same goes for Ayuso but doubly so, since while we don't have many data points for Remco, at least we have some.

The other question will be how much of that time gap was due to his strength and how much was due to the others doing a passable impression of the 2020 Tour stage 6; he didn't drop Mas until the very end, but simultaneously we can praise Quintana at Formigal and he didn't drop Gianluca Brambilla, who is nothing like as proven as a GT rider as Mas is. Mas is a rider who tends to get stronger as the race goes on, a generally rather conservative rider riding for Unzué who is rather set in his ways, and on a team who need UCI points, so I wouldn't be surprised to see Mas going full on no-risk racing until very deep in the race, certainly he's going to be in the "don't risk losing 2nd to come 1st" kind of camp if Lotto continue to accumulate small race points, which is a shame for the spectacle but is an unfortunate and annoying product of the UCI's system. Movistar haven't been doing much if any recruitment as of yet and I dare say a large part of that will be riders of decent level wanting to be able to trust they will be at the top level before they put pen to paper for the team.

Quite a few big names who might have been considered favourites coming into the race undercooked here, but it was nice to see something of Padun to remind us of what he briefly once was, but I'm not sure of the tactical choice to recall a brief, moving moment of lost kinship between Russia and Ukraine by giving a descending performance where he paid tribute to the recently-retired Ilnur Zakarin. Fortunately for Ineos, seeing as Carapaz is probably the most significant one to lose out today, they have enough depth that they can pivot to another leader, but it's surely completely open season among them as to who that may be - and it may even turn out to be Carapaz again in the long run if something like the 2020 Tour or even the 2019 Giro ends up happening and he has enough of a deficit for there to be hesitation about who takes responsibility for chasing him. He has ridden himself into form later on in a three week race before.