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I'm super happy with the Bergamo stage, even if my hope was that they would do Valpiana immediately after Valcava like in the 80's.





They did it in Lombardia last year.
Yes, I was thinking the same, the Valcava + Valpiana combo is what this stage needed. I even would have prefered this above the fact that the Bondone stage is so super hard now. It would have brough balance between 2nd and 3rd week.
 
Part of the reason I'd been meming it is that the image on cyclingcols looks like an unpaved crest of the road but on closer inspection it's probably just the angle
Upper sections used to be gravel but it's been completely paved since 2020. It's a fantastic inclusion but I have to say I'm slightly worried about the usual Giro cancellation drama. In 2021 the upper parts still had snow till mid June, the descent (proper north face) apparently still has questionable seconds with gravel on the paved road, I hope they properly clean it.
 
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The next time either Ortisei or Selva di Gardena is hosting a stage finish, they should really do a Fedaia - Sella combo and descent finish. Preferable as on of the last mountain stages. Something like stage 18, 19 or 20.
I believe they did such a beautiful stage back in 1998 as well. I remember Pantani attacking on Fedaia with Tonkov and Zülle lost for words and losing several minutes. Guerini won that stage.
 
Only way to get Sormano back is if Evenepoel crashes down Valpiani, and that continues until they run out of descents.
Optional training wheels for him and we get back Sormano?
Edit: Just to make it clear, of course Remco himself isn't to blame for it. It was RCS trying to suck it up to him and the team to get him to ride the Giro di Lombardia. I'm kinda glad that it backfired...
 
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Bro, Lussari is 15% over 5 km. That might very well be one of the hardest stretches ever in pro cycling, my god.

EDIT: I should say THE hardest. What can contest that?

EDIT: And looking at the profile of Croix de Coeur (from both sides) is just cycling porn!
If cyclingcols is correct it's 5kms at 14.5% vs the Zoncolan's 5kms at 15.5%, so Zoncolan is harder. So this time I can actually say that I've climbed worse.

Zoncolan is the worst climb that I've done because the hard part is so long, in an actual race the old road to Oberbozen with 1km at 21% and 3kms at 17.4% is probably worse, but if you climb it on a training ride you can take it easy on the 8-10% sections afterwards. The hardest part is the hardest thing I've ever ridden, but with it being at the start of the climb it makes the overall climb less hard than the Zoncolan on a training ride (would probably make for better racing and produce bigger gaps because everything explodes right after you hit the climb). That climb is also a horror in the summer, the super steep part is exposed to the sun (surrounded by Vineyards) and Bozen is often one of the hottest cities in Italy, you hit that climb with well over 35° in the afternoon. For reference it's this climb minus the final 600m: https://www.cronoescalada.com/puertos/viewProfile/3411

You have 300m on a private road, that's why the sign calls it a dead end road.
 
If cyclingcols is correct it's 5kms at 14.5% vs the Zoncolan's 5kms at 15.5%, so Zoncolan is harder. So this time I can actually say that I've climbed worse.

Zoncolan is the worst climb that I've done because the hard part is so long, in an actual race the old road to Oberbozen with 1km at 21% and 3kms at 17.4% is probably worse, but if you climb it on a training ride you can take it easy on the 8-10% sections afterwards. The hardest part is the hardest thing I've ever ridden, but with it being at the start of the climb it makes the overall climb less hard than the Zoncolan on a training ride (would probably make for better racing and produce bigger gaps because everything explodes right after you hit the climb). That climb is also a horror in the summer, the super steep part is exposed to the sun (surrounded by Vineyards) and Bozen is often one of the hottest cities in Italy, you hit that climb with well over 35° in the afternoon. For reference it's this climb minus the final 600m: https://www.cronoescalada.com/puertos/viewProfile/3411

You have 300m on a private road, that's why the sign calls it a dead end road.
Giro's own website has this profile:

 
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With Haig, Vlasov, Thomas, Roglic and Evenepoel on the startlist, to be honest, the Giro 2023 is the Grand Tour of 2023 to which I am looking forward most, in 2023.

Crashes, injuries, illnesses, Covid and stuff like these frequently cause disappointments for us as cycling fans. Plus, in the Giro, you always have to be prepared for disappointments such as late course changes due to snowfall or similar issues. But if all goes well, this Giro 2023 should become a very, very interesting race.

So I‘m looking forward to a nice start of this 2023 season, a beautiful spring, and a great Giro as the highlight… :)
 

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