Giro d'Italia 2023 Giro D’Italia Route Rumors

[Valv.Piti]

Even with 70 km of time trial, this is definitely still one for the climbers. Some extremely hard stages in there where you can take infinite time if youre the best uphill.

Looks like a great edition actually.

 

[fbjim]

Three ITT's all on weekends - RCS must not be interested in viewer numbers.

I think the entire nation of Belgium will watch those lol

 

[Mayomaniac]

Even with 70 km of time trial, this is definitely still one for the climbers. Some extremely hard stages in there where you can take infinite time if youre the best uphill.

Looks like a great edition actually.

Yeah, it's a pleasant surprise.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Quite a few potential sprint stages, the MTT is an eyesore, every mountain stage is a MTF, there's some unfortunate flats before said MTFs and the mountains are somehow even more backloaded than usual.

Yet it's still a good route. Crans-Montana, Monte Bondone and Zoldo Alto are all above expectations, Tre Cime we already knew was really good, and there's a strong supporting cast of mid-mountain stages, plus a decent amount of TT.

I also lol'd at the MTT profile, which makes Lussari look like Everest.

 

[Samamba]

Quite a few potential sprint stages

Well let's hope Alpecin doesn't decide to send Mareczko cause there's like one actual flat stage in the first 2 weeks. Other pure sprinters need to hope a guy like Pedersen doesn't try the Giro or they will be dropped in almost every "sprint" stage.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Is a decent route, the heart of the organisers is in the right places.

The final stage is a joke. I would take out one of the ITT from earlier and put it as the final stage somewhere North, to get rid of this annoying transfer and sketchy criterium in Rome that nobody really want.

Slightly too many ITT km for me but not so bad, and the mountain stages are good. Shame there is no mountains stage with a descent in the finish.

 

[fbjim]

I think backloading is only really bad if the GC isn't shaken up by like the middle of week 2 which the ITTs and the early MTFs should be alright with.

I wish there were more descent finishes and with the ITTs I was hoping for one or two miserably long mountain stages rather than a lot of stages between 180-210km but good route.

 

[Eshnar]

With the MTT on stage 18 this would be a 9/10.
Like this maybe a 7. Still a lot better than expected.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Well let's hope Alpecin doesn't decide to send Mareczko cause there's like one actual flat stage in the first 2 weeks. Other pure sprinters need to hope a guy like Pedersen doesn't try the Giro or they will be dropped in almost every "sprint" stage.

You should look at the full profiles rather than the miniatures with exaggerated y-axes. Stages 2, 5, 6 and 11 are all near certainties, stages 3, 10 and 14 are opportunities to varying extents (also between sprinters) and then there are two pan-flat stages in the final half. 6-9 sprints is quite a lot, really.

Whether Mareczko can survive them is irrelevant as he will DNF or OTL on stage 3 if he isn't careful, if he even starts.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Stage 8 is underrated, Capuccini is 2kms at over 10% and Monte delle Cesane is 7.75kms at 7% with an 18% steep section.

Right after the 218km long stage with the Campo Imperatore MTF it's gonna hurt.
Capuccini is the murito that they did twice on that 2019 Tirreno stage that Lutsenko won after being on the attack, crashing on the final descent, getting caught and still beating the gc guys on the line.

 

[OlavEH]

and at least 2 hard, giro style, hilly stages.

You mean the Fossombrone and Bergamo stages?

 

[Mayomaniac]

You mean the Fossombrone and Bergamo stages?

Yes.

 

[fbjim]

Also no real stages like last year's finishes in Genova or, God forbid Cogne where I have zero idea of what the point of the stage is.

 

[ChiefMasterPro]

At least we will see maybe some different strategies for the MTT with Bike and gear usage

 

[fbjim]

I also wish they had done two laps of Fossombrone because of how fun that 2019 T-A stage was!

 

[Big Doopie]

Three ITT's all on weekends - RCS must not be interested in viewer numbers.

disagree entirely.

ITT is where you can absolutely be sure that the GC is in play and there is epic drama and suspense as you don't know how riders will go.

it is the race of truth.

 

[OlavEH]

6/10 by first look. To backloaded, I really don't like the MTT and the most of the first two weeks is just too easy. And there are none of the mountain stages that REALLY encourage long range attacks.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

I also wish they had done two laps of Fossombrone because of how fun that 2019 T-A stage was!

Would cause issues with riders being lapped, especially with Cesane earlier on.

 

[OlavEH]

ITT is where you can absolutely be sure that the GC is in play and there is epic drama and suspense as you don't know how riders will go.

it is the race of truth.

None ITT will ever be as good as the best versions of Finestre-Sestriere, Mortirolo-Aprica or similar stages.

 

[Big Doopie]

huge fan of MTTs.

but not this silly one.

7-8% not this idiocy.

and i absolutely despise ITTs where riders make a bike switch.

 

[red_flanders]

Looks like a very hard, relatively balanced (70 ITT k's is still nothing historically) course. Would liked to have seen a bit more interest in the first week but other than that it looks awesome. Hope they get a field to match the parcours!

Oh...I mean, this, that and the other thing suck! This is CN forums after all, we have to complain about the route...right?

 

[Mayomaniac]

Ok, did Zomegnan just kidnap Vegni to take his place? That Giro looks super hard overall to me.
That Coi climb to Zoldo Alto is 4kms always over 10% with ramps up to 19% and the Aldeno side of Bondone is ideal to create really big gaps as a MTF because the steepest parts come rather early (and it's a tappone).
Nice to see that the final stage is a proper Fori Imperiali parade stage, if you finish in Rome you do it right. That one has the potential to be at least as stunning as the final parade in Paris.

 

[OlavEH]

Oh...I mean, this, that and the other thing suck! This is CN forums after all, we have to complain about the route...right?

Of course. There are none Mortirolo, Finestre, Stelvio, Gavia or Fedaia, climbs that in combo with other climbs really to prompt action far from the stage finish. Now the best mountain stage could be diminished by that stupid MTT and we'll probably won't see any action until the last climb on the Bondone and Crans stages.

 

[fbjim]

If Zomegan had returned that MTT would continue on an equally steep and technical descent.

 

[Big Doopie]

None ITT will ever be as good as the best versions of Finestre-Sestriere, Mortirolo-Aprica or similar stages.

don't believe i said it would be.

then again you qualify yourself by comparing ITTs only with "the best of" certain mountain stages. what about just comparing them with any other type of stage? chances that you have GC movement and drama is built into an ITT (because it is the race of truth and no one can hide). not necessarily built into any other type of stage (as 2020 Giro is a prime example, LOL!)

also, mountain stages are likely to be more exciting now as the purer climbers can no longer wait...