Giro d'Italia 2023 Giro d'Italia, Stage 13: Borgofranco d’Ivrea – Crans Montana, 199 km (Friday, May 19th)

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Vine is in the break too. Can't wait to see his meltdown after he gets forced to wait for Almeida.

Now waiting for the bus.

 

[Netserk]

Indirectly means nothing. Teams pay the riders. How riders and teams interact is an industrial relations question. You pay nobody. What you think is irrelevant to the riders.

You can always say that the customers never pay the employees, but in most businesses that doesn't make the opinion of the costumers irrelevant for the workers.

 

[Bolder]

Wow, the descent actually looks really bad, sounds reasonable to cancel it, but apparently cyclists will do terrible tactical decisions and will descend it as long as everything is easier.

Why not neutralize the descent? Gaps at summit stand etc. They've done it before. Seems like there are some simple solutions here...

 

[StryderHells]

Jack Haig apparantly wanted this climb cancelled.

Good thing he's getting dropped, what a bum.

(And yes, Im watching.....)

have you actually ever interacted with Haig? I have and he’s a good guy and not a bum. If he did this want this climb cancelled this that was an error in judgement.

 

[DNP-Old]

Dennis Rohan is still there. The Stelvio is approaching.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Did Vine whine publicly about having to work for Almeida? Or are people just inferring that he‘s sulky?

 

[dazaau]

Now waiting for the bus.

Mind you he was dressed for the north pole so maybe that didn't work out so well either

 

[Tim Cahill]

Vine claims top 10 isn't interesting because he would get no money for it, says hes going for stage wins, immediately drops when his break attempt doesn't go.

Poor Joao, this is what happens when you hire mercenaries.

 

[Red Rick]

Rohan Dennis looks ominous lol.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

You can always say that the customers never pay the employees, but in most businesses that doesn't make the opinion of the costumers irrelevant for the workers.

Not only do you not pay the riders, you aren’t even their employer’s customer.

 

[theyoungest]

Dennis Rohan is still there. The Stelvio is approaching.

He'll be Rohanbot again by the time this Giro ends.

 

[Stelvio]

Adam Hansen: "To provide clarity from the riders' perspective, the weather conditions experienced during this year's Giro have been among the most intense. In response, the riders held a vote last night to invoke the extreme weather protocol."

I'm unable to find the extreme weather protocol on UCI's homepage, but a quote on inrng.com:

the compulsory convening of a meeting between the stakeholders (organisation including race doctor and chief of security, riders, teams, President of the Commissaires Panel,) when extreme weather conditions are anticipated prior to the start of a stage

If that is correctly quoted, then the protocol makes no provision for invoking the protocol on past weather. Does anyone have a copy of the entire protocol?

 

[Fantastico]

have you actually ever interacted with Haig? I have and he’s a good guy and not a bum. If he did this want this climb cancelled this that was an error in judgement.

Technically, he did not want the climb cancelled, but the descent (which obviously implies that you cannot do the climb either).

 

[DNP-Old]

Jumbo should someone up the road, me thinks.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

I know Haig is not popular here because his comments this morning. But it's a shame he still has no luck in GTs. He's a nice and open guy

DnF 2022 tour, DNF 2021 tour before Vuelta podium, DNF 2020 Giro, miss 2019 Giro will illness and now this


On the other hand Jai Vine always seemed grumpy and whiny

 

[StryderHells]

Technically, he did not want the climb cancelled, but the descent (which obviously implies that you cannot do the climb either).

I get that, but doesn’t mean the guys a bum. I wish the stage had gone as originally planned.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Didn't vine just sign a contract until 2056 last week?

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Raindrops!

 

[Red Rick]

Breakaway is probably gonna be dead on top of the climb with 1-1.5 minute of gap to show for it

 

[Netserk]

Not only do you not pay the riders, you aren’t even their employer’s customer.

The number of links in the value chain is not what matters. What matters is how actions in one end affect those in the other.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I get that, but doesn’t mean the guys a bum. I wish the stage had gone as originally planned.

Wow, you're lucky you're not an Evenepoel fan if you get worked up over that comment, lol.

 

[dazaau]

"Peloton" is pretty small

 

[Lequack]

Why didn't they start the Giro with this stage?

 

[Fantastico]

I get that, but doesn’t mean the guys a bum. I wish the stage had gone as originally planned.

I don't think he is a bum. I think cancelling the descent seems more reasonable than the change that was made.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Why didn't they start the Giro with this stage?

Remco would take 5 minute, Giro over