Giro d'Italia 2023 Giro d'Italia, Stage 9: Savignano sul Rubicone – Cesena 35 km ITT (Sunday, May 14th)

[Riek s]

Roglic/ hart/ Thomas biggest favorites after today. Roglic might take pink first, but if he will need to get more distance on hart to avoid pdbf experience..

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

If you discount Leknessund and Sivakov (who aren't going for GC, although Leknessund might change his mind), the top 10 in GC all finished within 51s of each other.
Absolutely insane for a 35km ITT, you sometimes get bigger differences at a 9km prologue.

 

[hfer07]

When you're disappointed after a stage win.

by his own reckoning, Remco blew it up by going too fast in the 1st half- OTOH Roglic & G knew what they were doing so......

 

[Panda Claws]

Realistically if he doesn't blow up he is not going to suddenly be 30" ahead of Thomas though given he was 11" ahead at the first check.

I doubt that is the main differentiator here

 

[Berniece]

by his own reckoning, Remco blew it up by going too fast in the 1st half- OTOH Roglic & G knew what they were doing so......

But how does that make any sense? They have a pacing plan... They know exactly how hard to ride, where. The only reason he wouldn't be able to match the plan is if his form isn't there anymore or he still struggles with injuries from his fall.

 

[movingtarget]

Very solid from Roglic!

Great TT

Finished hard, made up time in the final 6 kms.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

But how does that make any sense? They have a pacing plan... They know exactly how hard to ride, where. The only reason he wouldn't be able to match the plan is if his form isn't there anymore or he still struggles with injuries from his fall.

...or if the headwind was worse than they'd expected, but either of the former options seems more likely.

 

[staubsauger]

Remco can be happy, very, very happy about those 19 seconds Groves & Ballerini caused Tao to lose on stage 2.

Didn't even win 50 seconds on Tao in the TT's.

The question is: Will Ineos screw this, because of favorism for Thomas? He wouldn't even be ahead without Tao's shemozzle!

 

[Devil's Elbow]

So far, the stage with the biggest time spread between Thomas/Roglic/TGH is... stage 2, thanks to TGH losing 19 seconds due to that crash. That wasn't on my bingo card to say the least.

 

[dazaau]

Given only 1 second, would have loved to see old Man G take the win here. He seems to be getting better as the giro goes on. Fascinating.

 

[Filippo_3467]

People are overreacting to this. Remco is still in a good GC lead. Of course I would have guessed that he distances most GC riders betwenn one minute and one and a half minutes but he's clearly not on his best form at the moment. But know it's almost a week until the next big test and then one of the other teams has to pick it up which is not clear if somneone will do it outside of the last kms.

If the drop in form is because of the crashes or sickness the picture could be totally different in a week.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

The time trial took 5 years from Remco

https://twitter.com/x/status/1657767436613976064

View: https://twitter.com/faustocoppi60/status/1657767436613976064?t=3OQQ8i8v8m7kduCv9MdPRQ&s=19

Wow, he looks really bad. Maybe he is ill? (viral infection or one associated with his wound).

 

[Gargamel35]

Remco will heal his wounds in couple days and be a lot better in mountains. Ineos duo look the most dangerous right now. They can attack Remco or Roglič in 1/2 style not to mention both look strong enough to defeat them 1/1 too.

This Remco vs Roglič show can produce an Ineos winner.

 

[dazaau]

People are overreacting to this. Remco is still in a good GC lead. Of course I would have guessed that he distances most GC riders betwenn one minute and one and a half minutes but he's clearly not on his best form at the moment. But know it's almost a week until the next big test and then one of the other teams has to pick it up which is not clear if somneone will do it outside of the last kms.

If the drop in form is because of the crashes or sickness the picture could be totally different in a week.

I think he will come good. But it was never certain what good would look like in the high mountains in week 3. Going into it with a 2min plus lead would have made it more managble and less need to follow others in attacks etc

 

[movingtarget]

I thought Andy Murray was a dour guy but TGH is like many levels more depressing to listen to

Murray is Scottish he gets a pass...........

 

[Riek s]

Strategically I don't think Ineos will let Roglic ride or vice versa. So that might be of help for Remco.... If he is still there..

 

[Rob5091]

Hart & Caruso big surprises today - Ineos looked at the parcours and thought, "We need to work on our TT-ing guys" and it paid off today. Roglic looks a bit skinner to me which might explain his TT-ing. Remco went out like a bomb then blew up then dug deep to win - he'll learn a lot today, but how he'll be for the next week will be interesting. He needs a rest day and has to plan to defend against the Ineos duo.

 

[Skalman]

And so it begins…

JK. It really is tough. Riders, at least the ones I cheer for, almost always crash in GTs. Sometimes they win anyways, sometimes they don’t. And you never know what would have happened without the crashes. It isn’t unreasonable to think that there has been some impact on Remco’s performance, but the crash didn’t appear to be so bad that he shouldn’t be able to win anyways if he’s really that much better. Roglic has crashed probably 8 times or so during his Vuelta victories.

I dont even understand what you are arguing here or where the contradiction lies? deny that every reasonable person would think that Remco would crush the opposition on this ITT after the first ITT? an ITT that would suit him to a tee. of course his form his offset, you could see it yesterday and today again. even if the crash didn't look bad one was at 60 km/hr and probably took its toll, but what has that to do with what i said? if Remo had been in form this race would have been over today

 

[Barnacle Bill]

Well done to Leknessund over the last few days, certainly honoured the jersey.

Things looking very interesting now with 4 GT winners topping the standings, all within 50s.

 

[YavorD]

That was a thrilling TT, but I don't think the outcome does any favosr to the overall race.
With such a tiny gaps I'm not bothered about stage 13 anymore as it would most probably be all about the final climb.

 

[Didinho]

But how does that make any sense? They have a pacing plan... They know exactly how hard to ride, where. The only reason he wouldn't be able to match the plan is if his form isn't there anymore or he still struggles with injuries from his fall.

He started at the pacing plan. But couldn't hold it for long. Just not the legs today for his doing. Suffered in the 2nd part.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

People are overreacting to this. Remco is still in a good GC lead. Of course I would have guessed that he distances most GC riders betwenn one minute and one and a half minutes but he's clearly not on his best form at the moment. But know it's almost a week until the next big test and then one of the other teams has to pick it up which is not clear if somneone will do it outside of the last kms.

If the drop in form is because of the crashes or sickness the picture could be totally different in a week.

With less than a minute in hand on all his competition with arguably the three hardest GT stages of the year still to come, Evenepoel cannot afford to be outclimbed by anyone in the mountains. Even if he's back to 100% in five days' time, that isn't exactly a given. He isn't out of this yet, but he's definitely not the favourite at this point. Would say Roglic is the likeliest rider, but Ineos the likeliest team to take the GC right now.

 

[HelloDolly]

Basso predicting an INEOS win

 

[Skalman]

Amarails time in bad weather is impressive...

 

[ice&fire]

The outcome of the crossing of the Rubicon has brought to my mind another word from the wars of ancient Rome: this looks like a pyrrhic victory.