Giro d'Italia 2024 Giro d'Italia route rumours

[staubsauger]

Are we going to for once cheer for the application of the EWP when stage 16 route is altered due to extreme weather conditions?

I swear I just had the same thought tonight. That stage ends up being a Stelvio mtf like that 2009 Blockhaus stage!

 

[zlev11]

yes, im sure geraint thomas and adam hansen will team up to make this route even worse like they did last year

 

[roundabout]

Looks like the intergiro classification officially returns at the 2024 Giro d'Italia! 😍

Eurosport's Karsten Migels & a certain cycling fan from nearby Enschede are delighted! 😄

And the Intergiro ends being a banal sprint with bonifications for GC and point for the points jersey with the same points also for the Intergiro classification.

So instead of the GC Intergiro we get the points based one. Meh.

 

[staubsauger]

And the Intergiro ends being a banal sprint with bonifications for GC and point for the points jersey with the same points also for the Intergiro classification.

So instead of the GC Intergiro we get the points based one. Meh.

Wait, wasn't that already the case with the intermediate sprint classification Migels & me used to call "the former intergiro classification"?

 

[nbfc1962]

Are they gonna giva a shirt for the Intergiro or will be just some points ranking like last years?

 

[Remy55]

Local newspaper reports that if Stelvio is impassable, alternates would be Umbrailpass (what would mean going through Switzerland), Ofenpass (same problem) or passo tonale.

 

[roundabout]

Wait, wasn't that already the case with the intermediate sprint classification Migels & me used to call "the former intergiro classification"?

I think so, but I am now somewhat confused as to what will happen in the other 2 sprints (will there be 3 intermediate sprints per stage now?)

 

[mpbheywood]

I think so, but I am now somewhat confused as to what will happen in the other 2 sprints (will there be 3 intermediate sprints per stage now?)

Near as I can tell from looking at the timetables on the official website, there will be 3 intermediate sprints per road stage:

- The first intermediate sprint will award ciclamino points: 12-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 points for the top 8 (like last year)
- The last intermediate sprint will award bonus seconds for GC: 3-2-1 seconds for the top 3 (also like last year)
- In between those two sprints, there will now be an Intergiro sprint which will award both ciclamino points and bonus seconds.
- The Intergiro sprint will also count for a separate Intergiro classification, which will use the same point scale used to award the ciclamino points, and will not award a jersey.

 

[Escarabajo]

Local newspaper reports that if Stelvio is impassable, alternates would be Umbrailpass (what would mean going through Switzerland), Ofenpass (same problem) or passo tonale.

This could be the worst route in decades!

 

[staubsauger]

This could be the worst route in decades!

The 2004 Giro d'Italia had an absolute joke of an Dolomites stage even. Which actually played out with Cunego cracking Popovych in the end!

 

[Red Rick]

The 2004 Giro d'Italia had an absolute joke of an Dolomites stage even. Which actually played out with Cunego cracking Popovych in the end!

It also had Gavia + Bormio 2000

 

[staubsauger]

It also had Gavia + Bormio 2000

Yeah, but Bormio 2000 ended with Cunego winning the stage with an uphill sprint. But yeah, Honchar truly fought for his 2nd spot there and on the next day.

So the 2024 Giro d'Italia absolutely has on cards becoming a worse edition. Unless there's some sudden resurrection of Bardet or Thymen Arensman spectacularly saves Ineos Giro d'Italia in the last week (If Thomas has already abandoned only)!

 

[Red Rick]

Yeah, but Bormio 2000 ended with Cunego winning the stage with an uphill sprint. But yeah, Honchar truly fought for his 2nd spot there and on the next day.

So the 2024 Giro d'Italia absolutely has on cards becoming a worse edition. Unless there's some sudden resurrection of Bardet or Thymen Arensman spectacularly saves Ineos Giro d'Italia in the last week (If Thomas has already abandoned only)!

In terms of GC it's gonna be the worst but nobody will admit it cause a majority of fans like the rider that's sleepwalking it.

 

[staubsauger]

In terms of GC it's gonna be the worst but nobody will admit it cause a majority of fans like the rider that's sleepwalking it.

But isn't that the difference? Like if you re-watch Paris-Roubaix isolated from the Tour of Flanders, then it was a nice parade by Van der Poel. Steering and riding over the cobbles technically fine. Spectacular win. Plus there still was a race going on behind. It w

When Pogacar won the 2023 Amstel Gold Race it was the same. Spectacular win. But the race behind with Healy killing Pidcock. Lutsenko and Kroon fighting each others like 2 roosters.

The 2024 Giro d'Italia isn't going to be like Les Deux Alpes 1998. It probably ends up being a complete walk in the park for Teddy, just like his Strade Bianche win earlier this year. Dull!

 

[Devil's Elbow]

It also had Gavia + Bormio 2000

It also had 11 sprint stages and a Montevergine MTF was one of the five hardest mountain stages. As poor as this route is, that one was unquestionably even worse.

 

[OlavEH]

It also had 11 sprint stages and a Montevergine MTF was one of the five hardest mountain stages. As poor as this route is, that one was unquestionably even worse.

Yep, In the 20+ years I've watched the Giro, this was without a doubt the worst route. Perhaps also the worst GT route overall in this period (maybe a couple of Vueltas in contention).

 

[staubsauger]

Yep, In the 20+ years I've watched the Giro, this was without a doubt the worst route. Perhaps also the worst GT route overall in this period (maybe a couple of Vueltas in contention).

Arguably that Giro d'Italia even missed a 2nd TT to make Honchar win it. Which eventually at least would've been logical given the route.

I like Cunego though. But his grand tour pedigree was clearly overestimated in the zeros based on his 2004 Giro d'Italia victory!

 

[Red Rick]

Arguably that Giro d'Italia even missed a 2nd TT to make Honchar win it. Which eventually at least would've been logical given the route.

I like Cunego though. But his grand tour pedigree was clearly overestimated in the zeros based on his 2004 Giro d'Italia victory!

Cunego is forever carved into the CN forum mythos by the outrage it created when he lost Tour de Suisse to Levi Leechheimer in 2011.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Yep, In the 20+ years I've watched the Giro, this was without a doubt the worst route. Perhaps also the worst GT route overall in this period (maybe a couple of Vueltas in contention).

That route was so horrible, Bradley McGee finished 8th, his only ever Top-80 finish in a GT.

 

[staubsauger]

Cunego is forever carved into the CN forum mythos by the outrage it created when he lost Tour de Suisse to Levi Leechheimer in 2011.

I was angry back then too. Frankly, Leipheimer fully deserved that 2011 Tour de Suisse victory. Levi even attacked up towards Malbun. That's like his only ever attack in big races. Apart from Plateau de Beille 2007 and those testing balloons for Contador at the 2008 Vuelta a Espana!

 

[Red Rick]

It also had 11 sprint stages and a Montevergine MTF was one of the five hardest mountain stages. As poor as this route is, that one was unquestionably even worse.

It had 11 sprints. Not 11 nailed on sprint stages. Some weird *** was going on that Giro even outsdie the parcours

 

[Devil's Elbow]

It had 11 sprints. Not 11 nailed on sprint stages. Some weird *** was going on that Giro even outsdie the parcours

11 sprint opportunities then, that's still significantly more than this Giro.

 

[ashhutch1997]

That route was so horrible, Bradley McGee finished 8th, his only ever Top-80 finish in a GT.

Don't forget Alessandro Petacchi winning 9 stages, and there were still more sprint stages won by other riders.

 

[Escarabajo]

After scrutinizing the route in greater detail, I've identified two positive aspects:

• Several stages commence with climbs, a spectacle beloved by fans. However, I recognize that riders dislike this setup because it necessitates extensive warm-up routines before the race, posing potential challenges for some. This could notably affect certain GC contenders, although I doubt it would trouble Pogacar.
• Although the surface appears relatively easy route, it may encourage numerous riders to adopt a more aggressive approach, giving them confidence for attacks. This contrasts with the defensive mindset often observed on more arduous routes. Additionally, I noticed the presence of numerous uncategorized hills that could catch many riders off guard.

Traditionally, demanding routes have led to defensive riding, disappointing fans. However, this time, we might be pleasantly surprised by the soft route. Let's hope for the best outcome for this Giro because the last 2 were really bad.

 

[Netserk]

It is simply a case of Stelvio versus Hafling/Avelengo as the mid-stage climb there, Collalbo and the correct side of Pinei are not mutually exclusive with Stelvio whatsoever, so you don't get a better stage by not 'wasting' Stelvio. Also, the fact that the tunnel was possible in 1972 doesn't automatically mean it still is over half a century later - a) there is much more traffic in and out of Livigno nowadays, so the effect of closing the tunnel would be more severe, b) there is no sporting benefit to going around Stelvio (unlike in 1972 when it was the only way of using Stelvio from Prato), c) the Swiss authorities might also simply not be open to it anymore for all we know, and d) it would still be a bigger logistical hassle than just going over Stelvio and thereby not having to close a tunnel that already has capacity issues whilst also crossing a Schengen border twice. For all those reasons, it isn't really a credible alternative, IMO.

NARRATOR: You do get a better stage by not "wasting" Stelvio. And it is possible to use the tunnel.