2024 Tirreno - Adriatico, March 4-10

[SafeBet]

I couldnt watch the ITT, so I dont know wich conclusion can be made, becouse I see there was some rain, some corners, wind increasing....Ayuso got a very good result and is now clear favourite for GC, but it is not normal he beated Ganna and put so big time on inmportant names...

Why not?
He's a monster talent and still very young so improvement should be expected. Last year he already won two WT ITT.
Perhaps we should start treating him like a top TT rider and not be surprised when these performances happen.

 

[Froome]

Reason's for Vingo's performance....

1. It's March! (pay no attention to Camino February)
2. Needs a reason to light up a mtf (or whatever that is)
3. GT riders don't do good ITT in one week stage races (pay no attention to Ayuso)
4. Maybe Ayuso is that good (see Ganna)
5. Conserving energy (this week. And for reason's not specified).
6. Caught a case of September ITT fever.
7. The real Vingo is still in Tiede
8. Playing it cool after Pogi went full ret@rd last weekend.
9. It's the damn helmet, man!
10. He was on the phone with Remco

He didn't have the legs to do better yesterday, it's not that difficult. No excuses. I hope he does better on friday and saturday.

 

[Netserk]

Which year and stage? Do you mean this stage in 2014? It looked like Kreuziger zig zagging? Contador won the sprint. Good to see LRP in the thick of it in his Sky days.

tirreno adriatico 2014 stage 4 - Google Suche

The day after when he attacked on Lanciano ~35 km from the finish to put over a minute on the rest in the peloton.

 

[tobydawq]

stage 2 - Philipsen v Milan. Monster sprint coming up!

Merlier?

 

[Taxus4a]

Why not?
He's a monster talent and still very young so improvement should be expected. Last year he already won two WT ITT.
Perhaps we should start treating him like a top TT rider and not be surprised when these performances happen.

I consider Ayuso the new Ocaña, becouse both are spanish and have a very similar appearance, And Ocaña was the rider Merckx feared more for GT races.

I knew he is very good at ITT, and he can put some distance to Vigegaard, but not 2 seconds per km and to beat Ganna in a stage for pure especialist. The difference is very small with this one, but of course is an amazing performance. He lost 10 secons Andalucia, and Ganna is in his country and maybe the best especialist now.

 

[Taxus4a]

Merlier?

Looking at the ITT Vernon did yesterday he is one of the favourites as well, but his team shouldnt control the race IMO..He has a very good train as well: Corbin Strong, Neilants, Simon Clark...

I like this race as it has long stages

 

[KZD]

I consider Ayuso the new Ocaña, becouse both are spanish and have a very similar appearance, And Ocaña was the rider Merckx feared more for GT races.

I knew he is very good at ITT, and he can put some distance to Vigegaard, but not 2 seconds per km and to beat Ganna in a stage for pure especialist. The difference is very small with this one, but of course is an amazing performance. He lost 10 secons Andalucia, and Ganna is in his country and maybe the best especialist now.

The thing about Ganna is that he is not in great shape in the beginning of the season as the Algarve TT result showed and even yesterday I expected him to put more time into the likes of Milan and Vernon. So while Ayuso overperformed I think Ganna underperformed a bit, possibly Sheffield would have beaten him if he hadn't crashed.

For today's stage I will go with Merlier.

 

[Netserk]

Merlier?

Verner!

 

[Taxus4a]

The thing about Ganna is that he is not in great shape in the beginning of the season as the Algarve TT result showed and even yesterday I expected him to put more time into the likes of Milan and Vernon. So while Ayuso overperformed I think Ganna underperformed a bit, possibly Sheffield would have beaten him if he hadn't crashed.

For today's stage I will go with Merlier.

Yes, I think so, it wanst yje best performance by Ganna. Thanks. Ayuso will be a serous candidate for le Tour in a race with normal Km of flat ITT. Ayuso crashed past Vuelta and managed to be one of the best last week. That is impressive. With him at his best Kuss couldnt won.

 

[shadowrider]

In 2020, Roglic tried to ride the final time trial on the Planche de belles filles with his own helmet design... and lost the Tour.

Even on this flat circuit, Vingegaard should have finished closer behind Ayuso (who is himself a lightweight climber). And Vingegaard is certainly already in good shape. Otherwise you wouldn't win three stages and the final ranking a week ago. His teammate Uijtdebroekx was even completely blown away. Even if Uijtdebroeks is not a time trialist, the difference with climber Ayuso is far too big.

I don't believe in coincidence, I am quite sure that the helmets in question are indeed negatively responsible for the mediocre to poor performance of the Visma riders.

 

[Scarponi]

Which year and stage? Do you mean this stage in 2014? It looked like Kreuziger zig zagging? Contador won the sprint. Good to see LRP in the thick of it in his Sky days.

tirreno adriatico 2014 stage 4 - Google Suche

Stage 5, when he attacked Quintana from 30-40km out and duelled Geshke up the wall

 

[Penninepeddler]

Was that crash "caused" by the whole "toilet break" situation going on around aha?

 

[Rob5091]

Merlier?

Merlier and Vernon are both big men but I'll be most interested in how Milan matches up.

 

[Potomac]

They have really been talking up the finish today, something about a train underpass.

and helicopter noises these last two days.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Was that crash "caused" by the whole "toilet break" situation going on around aha?

chain reaction?

 

[Potomac]

They did a lap of the finish beforehand and now I see why they were excited/concerned about the finish.

Something bad is certainly going happen.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Cav no helpers?

 

[tobydawq]

Merlier and Vernon are both big men but I'll be most interested in how Milan matches up.

Merlier just took the piss on the entire sprinting elite (bar Philipsen) four times in UAE while Verner won a stage in the famous Tour des Alpes-Maritimes beating Sean Flynn. I have a hard time seeing how they're equally uninteresting for this stage.

 

[DNP-Old]

GC wide open once more: Froome has crashed.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Froome now in place to pace his old mate Cav back

 

[DNP-Old]

Starting your sprint at 350 meters probably is not a good idea, Merlier.

 

[KZD]

Philipsen wins, Merlier sprinted from too far out.

If Girmay was sprinting for the win he would probably get relegated.

 

[Samamba]

Wtf was Merlier doing.

Zingle, Girmay And Capiot in the top 5 lmao.

 

[Didinho]

Philipsen perfect wheel with Merlier who had to go early. Easy win.

 

[Berniece]

A bit of a *** move from the Alpecin rider to deliberately try to block Merlier, but without that he would still have launched too early and lost