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2024 Women's CQ Manager game

Page 5 - Get up to date with the latest news, scores & standings from the Cycling News Community.
I'm probably very late to the party in realising this, but the women's CQ scoring scale is rather different to the men's and gives much more weight to SSRs than to the big races.

I only noticed it with two of my riders getting wins this week. Kopecky won PR (1.WWT) and got 140 points while Drummond won Region Pays de la Loire Tour (1.2) and got 40!! Now if we translate those results to a men's race of the same level the scores would have been 280 vs 15. That's a massive difference in a points scoring ratio.

There must be some reason why they have it this way, but maybe it's something to bear in mind next year when selecting your team.

It would be easier if they used the same one for both genders. That said, there used to multiple races that were seen as big and important by the female riders, but they didn't necessarily have a high UCI status. With the expansion of the WWT, the death of some of the historically prestigious races, and more men's races getting women's equivalents, it probably also makes sense to revisit the rules soon.

I picked Drummond for my emerging riders game because I saw a huge chance for her to score 40 points in the Gravel and Tar race, but I had to wait a few months for her to get them somewhere else.
 
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I'm probably very late to the party in realising this, but the women's CQ scoring scale is rather different to the men's and gives much more weight to SSRs than to the big races.

I only noticed it with two of my riders getting wins this week. Kopecky won PR (1.WWT) and got 140 points while Drummond won Region Pays de la Loire Tour (1.2) and got 40!! Now if we translate those results to a men's race of the same level the scores would have been 280 vs 15. That's a massive difference in a points scoring ratio.

There must be some reason why they have it this way, but maybe it's something to bear in mind next year when selecting your team.
The .PRO level is very new for the women. For many years anything with a .1 was basically the biggest thing outside of World Cup races. In addition to this, a lot of the races given .WWT status were new or relatively new (or in Amstel Gold's case, rebooted) women's versions of men's races, whose longevity was still not certain because the WWT was brand new, while a lot of historic and traditional races were excluded and still attracted a stronger field than might be expected of a race of equivalent status on the men's side of he sport.

As a result, .1 and .2 statuses for women's races are a bit less immediately prescriptive than the men's equivalent, and CQ have probably tried to balance this out with a kind of median ranking for the level. This is also especially noticeable in the 18 months or so preceding an Olympics where historically a lot of 'pop-up' races would occur, hastily added races at a .1 or .2 level that would appear after the big teams had already et their calendar, usually incepted specifically with the aim of qualifying the host nation an athlete for the Olympics.
 
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Okay! Good P-R for my team with:
Balsamo - 84
Vos - 63
Van Dijk - 50
oh and Zoe - 13

Didnt even realize Longo was not a starter. Won't catch Samu, but i will take it.

This week?
De Brabantse Pijl
BEGO Julie
EDWARDS (WINDER) Ruth
GIGANTE Sarah
LONGO BORGHINI Elisa
REALINI Gaia
VAN ANROOIJ Shirin (5th last year)
VAN DEN BROEK-BLAAK Chantal
VAS Blanka (the winner!!)

Amstel Gold
EDWARDS (WINDER) Ruth
GIGANTE Sarah
LONGO BORGHINI Elisa
VAN ANROOIJ Shirin (3rd last year)
VAN DIJK Ellen
VAN EMPEL Fem
VAS Blanka
VOS Marianne (lets keep this streak going!)
 
2 weeks to 7th April
featuring the Ronde van Vlaanderen and Paris-Roubaix

During this fortnight
KOPECKY Lotte
241pts​
PR win, Dwars 4th, Ronde 5th
3 teams​
VOS Marianne
226​
Dwars win, Ronde 4th, PR 4th
5​
LONGO BORGHINI Elisa
175​
Ronde win, Dwars 6th
10​
VAN ANROOIJ Shirin
133​
Dwars 2nd, Ronde 3rd
10​
WIEBES Lorena
127​
Scheldeprijs win, PR 7th, Ronde 11th
2​
BALSAMO Elisa
107​
PR 2nd, Scheleprijs 7th
12​
GEORGI Pfeiffer
91​
3​
PATERNOSTER Letizia
91​
1​
PIETERSE Puck
90​
15​
NIEWIADOMA Katarzyna
84​
1​
TRUYEN Marthe
66​
1​
SIERRA CAÑADILLA Arlenis
57​
1​
VAN DIJK Ellen
50​
14​


1​
Bminchow
810​
Vos, Longo Borghini, Van Androoij, Balsamo, Pieterse, Van Dijk
2​
Skidmark
636​
Longo Borghini, Van Androoij, Balsamo, Pieterse, Van Dijk
3​
Rufs
633​
Vos, Longo Borghini, Georgi, Pieterse, Van Dijk
4​
TRiley36
609​
Longo Borghini, Van Androoij, Balsamo, Pieterse, Van Dijk
5​
MuddyWaters
597​
Vos, Wiebes, Paternoster, Van Dijk
6​
ArmchairCyclist
557​
7​
SamuCuenca
509​
8​
Salvarani
508​
9​
Ruvu
488​
10​
SlowClimber
476​
11​
Madrazo
471​
12​
AmisVelo
446​
13​
Leadbelly
412​
14​
EvansIsTheBest
408​
15​
JonEzeitza
377​
16​
Laurens147
356​
17​
Urkiola
343​
18​
LibertineSeguros
275​
19​
ArchieBoy
266​
20​
DJSprtsch
263​
21​
DkOne
248​
22​
Otolomanolo
221​
23​
LosBrolin
216​
24​
Izzyeivel
215​
25​
Anderis
175​
26​
RedheadDane
104​
27​
Josedin
101​
28​
Hfgon1
47​
CollectiveWisdom
604​

The three teams with Kopecky (DJSprtsch, Jon Ezeitza and Leadbelly) only had 2 other riders with more than 50 points in this update between them, so having the top scorer is no guarantee of success without backing her up with other picks.

Standings
Despite declaring above that he wouldn't have stepped up to second, Bminchow has jumped to the top of the table in this update: he has also become the first to have half the team in profit. Ruvu and Samu Cuenca both got top ten scores in this fortnight, but still couldn't hold their places. Rufs takes Amis Velo's top ten place, and enough of the cross riders are now riding that Otolomanolo moves off the bottom.

1​
Bminchow
3133​
(+2)
2​
Ruvu
3027​
(-1)
3​
SamuCuenca
2962​
(-1)
4​
Skidmark
2640​
(+2)
5​
TRiley36
2618​
(-)
6​
Leadbelly
2489​
(-2)
7​
ArmchairCyclist
2474​
(+1)
8​
Madrazo
2433​
(-1)
9​
Rufs
2406​
(+3)
10​
SlowClimber
2388​
(-1)
11​
Salvarani
2305​
(-)
12​
AmisVelo
2272​
(-2)
13​
MuddyWaters
2096​
(+1)
14​
ArchieBoy
1797​
(-1)
15​
Izzyeivel
1694​
(-)
16​
DkOne
1622​
(+1)
17​
Anderis
1585​
(-1)
18​
LosBrolin
1558​
(-)
19​
JonEzeitza
1520​
(-)
20​
Laurens147
1497​
(-)
21​
EvansIsTheBest
1311​
(+2)
22​
LibertineSeguros
1279​
(-1)
23​
DJSprtsch
1146​
(+1)
24​
Urkiola
1074​
(+1)
25​
Hfgon1
1008​
(-3)
26​
Otolomanolo
884​
(+2)
27​
Josedin
807​
(-1)
28​
RedheadDane
792​
(-1)
CollectiveWisdom
2753​
 
2 weeks to 7th April
featuring the Ronde van Vlaanderen and Paris-Roubaix

During this fortnight
KOPECKY Lotte
241pts​
PR win, Dwars 4th, Ronde 5th
3 teams​
VOS Marianne
226​
Dwars win, Ronde 4th, PR 4th
5​
LONGO BORGHINI Elisa
175​
Ronde win, Dwars 6th
10​
VAN ANROOIJ Shirin
133​
Dwars 2nd, Ronde 3rd
10​
WIEBES Lorena
127​
Scheldeprijs win, PR 7th, Ronde 11th
2​
BALSAMO Elisa
107​
PR 2nd, Scheleprijs 7th
12​
GEORGI Pfeiffer
91​
3​
PATERNOSTER Letizia
91​
1​
PIETERSE Puck
90​
15​
NIEWIADOMA Katarzyna
84​
1​
TRUYEN Marthe
66​
1​
SIERRA CAÑADILLA Arlenis
57​
1​
VAN DIJK Ellen
50​
14​


1​
Bminchow
810​
Vos, Longo Borghini, Van Androoij, Balsamo, Pieterse, Van Dijk
2​
Skidmark
636​
Longo Borghini, Van Androoij, Balsamo, Pieterse, Van Dijk
3​
Rufs
633​
Vos, Longo Borghini, Georgi, Pieterse, Van Dijk
4​
TRiley36
609​
Longo Borghini, Van Androoij, Balsamo, Pieterse, Van Dijk
5​
MuddyWaters
597​
Vos, Wiebes, Paternoster, Van Dijk
6​
ArmchairCyclist
557​
7​
SamuCuenca
509​
8​
Salvarani
508​
9​
Ruvu
488​
10​
SlowClimber
476​
11​
Madrazo
471​
12​
AmisVelo
446​
13​
Leadbelly
412​
14​
EvansIsTheBest
408​
15​
JonEzeitza
377​
16​
Laurens147
356​
17​
Urkiola
343​
18​
LibertineSeguros
275​
19​
ArchieBoy
266​
20​
DJSprtsch
263​
21​
DkOne
248​
22​
Otolomanolo
221​
23​
LosBrolin
216​
24​
Izzyeivel
215​
25​
Anderis
175​
26​
RedheadDane
104​
27​
Josedin
101​
28​
Hfgon1
47​
CollectiveWisdom
604​

The three teams with Kopecky (DJSprtsch, Jon Ezeitza and Leadbelly) only had 2 other riders with more than 50 points in this update between them, so having the top scorer is no guarantee of success without backing her up with other picks.

Standings
Despite declaring above that he wouldn't have stepped up to second, Bminchow has jumped to the top of the table in this update: he has also become the first to have half the team in profit. Ruvu and Samu Cuenca both got top ten scores in this fortnight, but still couldn't hold their places. Rufs takes Amis Velo's top ten place, and enough of the cross riders are now riding that Otolomanolo moves off the bottom.

1​
Bminchow
3133​
(+2)
2​
Ruvu
3027​
(-1)
3​
SamuCuenca
2962​
(-1)
4​
Skidmark
2640​
(+2)
5​
TRiley36
2618​
(-)
6​
Leadbelly
2489​
(-2)
7​
ArmchairCyclist
2474​
(+1)
8​
Madrazo
2433​
(-1)
9​
Rufs
2406​
(+3)
10​
SlowClimber
2388​
(-1)
11​
Salvarani
2305​
(-)
12​
AmisVelo
2272​
(-2)
13​
MuddyWaters
2096​
(+1)
14​
ArchieBoy
1797​
(-1)
15​
Izzyeivel
1694​
(-)
16​
DkOne
1622​
(+1)
17​
Anderis
1585​
(-1)
18​
LosBrolin
1558​
(-)
19​
JonEzeitza
1520​
(-)
20​
Laurens147
1497​
(-)
21​
EvansIsTheBest
1311​
(+2)
22​
LibertineSeguros
1279​
(-1)
23​
DJSprtsch
1146​
(+1)
24​
Urkiola
1074​
(+1)
25​
Hfgon1
1008​
(-3)
26​
Otolomanolo
884​
(+2)
27​
Josedin
807​
(-1)
28​
RedheadDane
792​
(-1)
CollectiveWisdom
2753​
Yeah!!

Okay, Vos is out wednesday so no win from her coming up. But still have a nice line up to try and hold my lead. I like it.
La Flèche Wallonne
BEGO Julie
EDWARDS (WINDER) Ruth
FISHER-BLACK Niamh
GIGANTE Sarah
LONGO BORGHINI Elisa
REALINI Gaia
VAN EMPEL Fem
VAS Blanka
 
My riders for the weekend:

Ahtosalo
Andersen
Dideriksen
Fahlin
Koerner

Aintila and Gåskjenn are still going strong in Spain.

And here are for the week that just started:

Aintila
Gåskjenn

(Not that surprising that it's the same riders who did the Vuelta who are also doing Itzulia.
My guess is they're also doing Navarra.
 
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Sorry: had hoped to do an update before the Giro got started, but they didn't make a download available, perhaps because the Vuelta had just started. So I began to prepare an update on the data released last Monday, but real life (and Giro game) intervened, and it was already late in the week before I was able to give it much time, so I thought I would wait until today's download. Which doesn't exist.

Just think of the tension that is building up though...
 
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Not picking Vos has turned into a very unwise decision. None of us trusted Thalita de Jong to bounce back and be well on her way to the highest score of her career. And when we made our teams back in January, it looked like Cille's decision to start the season in Australia could lead her her to big a point haul, but that wasn't to be.

Then I and others were probably hoping that Cavalli could make a great comeback, but instead it's Muzic who's been allowed to shine. She has a chance to become the first FDJ rider to hit the 1000 points barrier. According to FDJ's Vuelta documentary, it wasn't initially the plan for her to ride all 3 GT-ish races this year, but now they are seriously considering it.

I watched the documentary hoping to learn more about why Cavalli left the race, but it didn't tell me much. It did leave the impression that it wasn't due to crashing herself, which is both good news and slightly worrying.
 
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I'm very sorry to have left it so long, and at such a key section of the season.
If you're interested in the circumstances:
Mother in law in and out of hospital since early Feb, been in two different residential homes, and we've had 7 all nighters in A&E with her. Any day now will be transferred to palliative care: wife is in bits and one brother-in-law is as entirely devoid of empathy as the other is of ability to organise himself or speak to anyone in a non-abrasive way. Haven't really had time to look watch a bike race online or ride for months; Ride London Classique passes 200 metres from my home this afternoon but I can't see me getting to it. Games are a bit of a brain break from it, but rather too many at once at the moment, and the one week I had a bit of time, CQ didn't put up a downloadable spreadsheet.

8th April to 19th May
Cast your minds back: this update includes (from WWT) Amstel, Fleche, Bastogne-Liege, Vuelta, Itzulia and Burgos; 1.PRO events in Brabantse Pijl and Navarra Classic; plus a plethora of 1.1s

Points during this time (for those selected in the game:
VOLLERING Demi
822pts​
1team (Lib.Seg)​
GC and at least one stage win in each of Vuelta, Itzulia and Burgos, 2nd in Brabant and Amstel, 3rd in LBL
LONGO BORGHINI Elisa
434​
10​
Brabantse win, Vuelta 3rd + stage pts, Fleche 3rd, LBL 2nd, Amstel 5th
LABOUS Juliette
270​
2 (DJSprtsch, Evans)​
Itzulia 3rd,Vuelta 4th, top 10s in LBL and Fleche
VOS Marianne
259​
5​
Amstel win, LBL2nd, 2 Vuelta stage wins
VAN ANROOIJ Shirin
220​
10​
Burgos GC 5th, Navarre 3rd, Brabantse 5th
NIEWIADOMA Katarzyna
213​
1 (Lib.Seg)​
Fleche win, LBL 5th
GASPARRINI Eleonora Camilla
172​
3​
VENTURELLI Federica
165​
2 (Los Brolin, Otomanolo)​
FAULKNER Kristen
160​
11​
KASTELIJN Yara
151​
2​
PERSICO Silvia
150​
1 (Urkiola)​
ROOIJAKKERS Pauliena
138​
2​
SIERRA CAÑADILLA Arlenis
133​
1 (Samu)​
BAUERNFEIND Ricarda
133​
8​
GARCIA CAÑELLAS Margarita Victoria
131​
1​
KNAVEN Mirre
127​
3​
BARIL Olivia
121​
2​
WIEBES Lorena
120​
2​
FISHER-BLACK Niamh
106​
7​

Points since last update:
Despite the enormous score by a unique pick, Liberty Seguros doesn't make the top three for this session.
GainMain scorers
1​
Bminchow
1359​
ELB, Vos, Van Androoij, NFB
2​
SamuCuenca
1291​
ELB, Faulkner, Sierra, Garcia, Baril
3​
Ruvu
1289​
ELB, Faulkner, Baril
4​
LibertineSeguros
1206​
Vollering, Niewiadoma
5​
Salvarani
1199​
ELB, Van Androoij, NFB
6​
SlowClimber
1181​
ELB, Kastelijn, Rooijakkers, Bauernfeind
7​
Skidmark
1067​
8​
Otolomanolo
1064​
9​
ArmchairCyclist
1035​
10​
Anderis
1020​
11​
TRiley36
1010​
12​
Rufs
973​
13​
Madrazo
972​
14​
EvansIsTheBest
909​
15​
AmisVelo
908​
16​
Urkiola
835​
17​
Laurens147
818​
18​
MuddyWaters
817​
19​
Izzyeivel
802​
20​
LosBrolin
697​
21​
Hfgon1
686​
22​
Leadbelly
667​
23​
DkOne
626​
24​
DJSprtsch
586​
25​
ArchieBoy
583​
26​
Josedin
472​
27​
JonEzeitza
346​
28​
RedheadDane
327​
CollectiveWisdom
1304​

Standings
Considering how long it has been, there is actually very little change since last time, mainly because the top three up to early April have been the top three since early April, . And they are now well clear of the rest of the field. As Carlton Kirby would say, "There's your podium right there". Slow Climber is the highest placed to have changed position, and Salvarani, simultaneously having a leading place in the Giro game, is into the top ten.
1​
Bminchow
4492​
(-)
2​
Ruvu
4316​
(-)
3​
SamuCuenca
4253​
(-)
4​
Skidmark
3707​
(-)
5​
TRiley36
3628​
(-)
6​
SlowClimber
3569​
(+4)
7​
ArmchairCyclist
3509​
(-)
8​
Salvarani
3504​
(+3)
9​
Madrazo
3405​
(-1)
10​
Rufs
3379​
(-1)
11​
AmisVelo
3180​
(+1)
12​
Leadbelly
3156​
(-6)
13​
MuddyWaters
2913​
(-)
14​
Anderis
2605​
(+3)
15​
Izzyeivel
2496​
(-)
16​
LibertineSeguros
2485​
(+6)
17​
ArchieBoy
2380​
(-3)
18​
Laurens147
2315​
(+2)
19​
LosBrolin
2255​
(-1)
20​
DkOne
2248​
(-4)
21​
EvansIsTheBest
2220​
(-)
22​
Otolomanolo
1948​
(+4)
23​
Urkiola
1909​
(+1)
24​
JonEzeitza
1866​
(-5)
25​
DJSprtsch
1732​
(-2)
26​
Hfgon1
1694​
(-1)
27​
Josedin
1279​
(-)
28​
RedheadDane
1119​
(-)
CollectiveWisdom
4057​


Hopefully it won't be so long until the next update.
 
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Erratum
CQ has been altering names again: