42nd Vuelta a Burgos (2.PRO) // July 28th - August 1st 2020

[jaylew]

Tomorrow's stage should be great. I'll take Chaves and Landa followed by Sosa and Carapaz.

 

[Hihope]

About time they just used actual times in uphill finishes because this is just BS. Almeida getting the same time as someone finishing 15 seconds behind him.

Fully agree. But what should be the definition of an uphill sprint - more than 500meters at more than 5%, or longer with even more elevation?

 

[Hihope]

About time they just used actual times in uphill finishes because this is just BS. Almeida getting the same time as someone finishing 15 seconds behind him.

Hope Almeida will not have to drag the entire peloton today. Could be interesting to see him in a free role.

 

[Kaptain Kool]

Stage 1 was a sprinters' stage. There weren't any gaps in that second group. IMHO the timings were fine.

 

[tobydawq]

Stage 1 was a sprinters' stage. There weren't any gaps in that second group. IMHO the timings were fine.

I don't think you get Logic's logical point.

 

[Kaptain Kool]

I don't think you get Logic's logical point.

I guess not. In Stage 2, the last rider in the front group got the same time as Gaviria despite finishing over 15 seconds later. What's so magical about the slight incline in Stage 1?

 

[BlueRoads]

I guess not. In Stage 2, the last rider in the front group got the same time as Gaviria despite finishing over 15 seconds later. What's so magical about the slight incline in Stage 1?

In an uphill finish, even if it's not a mountain, the person who finishes 3rd probably did just way better than the one finishing 15th, even if there was never a gap. 15th is not where he is because there was no space, he could probably easily have come along, but he was just not riding/ climbing so well.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Stage 1 was a sprinters' stage. There weren't any gaps in that second group. IMHO the timings were fine.

900 meters at 6.1% is a sprinters stage? That must be why the top 10 was littered with sprinters.

 

[tobydawq]

I guess not. In Stage 2, the last rider in the front group got the same time as Gaviria despite finishing over 15 seconds later. What's so magical about the slight incline in Stage 1?

I don't even know what to say to this.

 

[Lequack]

 

[RedheadDane]

Why does it look like he's blessing the bike?

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Fully agree. But what should be the definition of an uphill sprint - more than 500meters at more than 5%, or longer with even more elevation?

Anything that is given KoM points. I believe this is the determining factor in whether the 3km rule applies. It would not unduly affect the KoM competition if some stage finishes were declared cat 4 hills.

Alternatively, let the race organisers choose which stages they want to be subject to the rule, and put it in the roadbook. And hopefully the commentators will actually read it and get it right occasionally.

 

[Red Rick]

Fully agree. But what should be the definition of an uphill sprint - more than 500meters at more than 5%, or longer with even more elevation?

It varies quite a bit depending on technicality, duration and incline, so it's hard to make a really rigid rule.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

It varies quite a bit depending on technicality, duration and incline, so it's hard to make a really rigid rule.

Maybe they could simply apply a rule for how many watts per kilo it takes to complete a section of at least 500 meters within the final 3k (for instance) at a certain velocity. Once the watts per kilo exceed a certain threshold > boom shakalaka.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I'll repost this:

 

[Red Rick]

Maybe they could simply apply a rule for how many watts per kilo it takes to complete a section of at least 500 meters within the final 3k (for instance) at a certain velocity. Once the watts per kilo exceed a certain threshold > boom shakalaka.

Depends. Does the estimated W/kg take into account local variations of the earth's gravitational force?

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1288810191400636418

View: https://twitter.com/VueltaABurgos/status/1288810191400636418

Depends. Does the estimated W/kg take into account local variations of the earth's gravitational force?

No. But feel free to add a mathematical formula for it.

 

[SafeBet]

Feels like looking at Spain through Predator's eyes.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

LIVE stream: https://www.vueltaburgos.com/es/

https://twitter.com/x/status/1288821414506758144

View: https://twitter.com/VueltaABurgos/status/1288821414506758144

 

[Faserr]

echelons

ineos and bora escaped in a small group.

 

[DNP-Old]

Borneos taking no hostages.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Ineos & Bora hijacking the stage.

 

[RedheadDane]

Everyone else: it's all about the climb.
Bora and INEOS: That's what you think!

 

[DNP-Old]

Sosa getting blown right off the wheel, damn.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Sosa is no Higuita.